GOLDENGREEK 2011 NFL SEASON LONG THREAD WITH 20*'s and 10*'s

[Drewgasm]

I got banned from TIS for asking this question because I was "bashing" so I will ask it here....not sure how asking a question is bashing, but screw that site....ask a question and everyone gets so sensitve...so Greek, thank your minions over there...here's my legitimate question to you sir....I just want to know your thought process, and again, if you think I'm bashing, Im not...just asking a question...

Im just curious as to why I always see 20* Plays of yours usually with bad teams...Im not criticizing or bashing...Im just trying to figure out what criteria you use....for instance, I never see the Packers -14 or the Steelers -13 as a 20* play...I understand going the other way or fading the public at times...but why such a LARGE play on horrible teams and why never a LARGE play on a favorite? In years past I would see the Lions every week as a 10* play and this team was 0-16...It just seems like if you made good teams large plays, (Yes favorites like New England, and Green Bay every week, you would be way ahead, now I dont have the numbers to prove it, but I have to believe when the elite teams are 11-5 or better, they are also above .500 against the spread as opposed to horrible teams 4-12 or worse being above .500 ats....I could be totally wrong, but I see your record and see how bad your getting crushed and wondering why your philosophy stays the same...are you just hoping it turns? Im not a system guy...I dont believe all squares win, or all sharps....its half and half...its ok to bet both sides at any time, depending on the situation...sharps have this mentality the public never wins...which is absurd...books take beatings on lots of games...they also win...like I said, just trying to pick your brain or wonder if you have some formula when your on bad teams all the time...Best of luck bro!

~Gasm

[takeunder]

He doesnt watch any sports, only WWE. He just fades the public in a general sense. there is a little more to it than straight public fade, but that is the basis of his plays.


He plays every game because he doesnt watch sports and cannot decpiher which bet is better than the other bet, so he needs to play every game and hope the public loses overall on the day.

It's not hard. He will say otherwise, but he has yet to tell anyone different in more than 5 years. he will use 1 game a week saying he is not against the public.

Actually this strategy is very profitable in the NBA. Well it has been in the past....I just hope they end this lock out shit.

[BigDofBA]

Yeah he kicks ass during the NBA regular season.

As for making Miami a 20*, if you have followed GG long enough you would you would understand.

Line opened at -9 and dropped to -7. 75% if the public is on the Jets. Ask yourself why books made it cheaper to take NY despite everyone being on them?

Also, the Jets have been sucking and Miami is coming off a bye week. Miami usually plays the Jets tight as well.

To add to that, I don't think Miami is as bad as people think they are. Likewise, I don't think the Jets are as good as people think they are. The Jets are a mediocre football team right now.

Public perception us that the Jets are easy money. I think a primetime game like this is anything but easy money.

Jets could cover but Miami is a very solid play.

[No coincidences]

Yeah he kicks ass during the NBA regular season.

As for making Miami a 20*, if you have followed GG long enough you would you would understand.

Line opened at -9 and dropped to -7. 75% if the public is on the Jets. Ask yourself why books made it cheaper to take NY despite everyone being on them?

Also, the Jets have been sucking and Miami is coming off a bye week. Miami usually plays the Jets tight as well.

To add to that, I don't think Miami is as bad as people think they are. Likewise, I don't think the Jets are as good as people think they are. The Jets are a mediocre football team right now.

Public perception us that the Jets are easy money. I think a primetime game like this is anything but easy money.

Jets could cover but Miami is a very solid play.

Big D -- Pinny actually opened at -6 last Sunday and it immediately went to 9.

[thebestthereis]

I don't watch nfl, work on Sundays. I don't have cable either. I pick every game in my nfl pool pretty much betting against the public and am over 55%, over 55% last year too. This isn't rocket science, it's sports.

[No coincidences]

I don't watch nfl, work on Sundays. I don't have cable either. I pick every game in my nfl pool pretty much betting against the public and am over 55%, over 55% last year too. This isn't rocket science, it's sports.

So I'm assuming you're taking Miami big tonight then reis? Because this is as 'fade the public' as it gets in the NFL.

[suicidekings]

Big D -- Pinny actually opened at -6 last Sunday and it immediately went to 9.

Where did you see that? They opened at -9.

[No coincidences]

Where did you see that? They opened at -9.

PinnacleLine History:
Miami Dolphins vs New York Jets

POINTSPREADS
10/09 13:49 +6 -104 / -6 -104
10/09 20:16 +9 -122 / -9 +113
10/09 20:22 +9 -125 / -9 +115

[suicidekings]

PinnacleLine History:
Miami Dolphins vs New York Jets

POINTSPREADS
10/09 13:49 +6 -104 / -6 -104
10/09 20:16 +9 -122 / -9 +113
10/09 20:22 +9 -125 / -9 +115

SBR odds is garbage. I play at Pinnacle and am always at my computer on Sunday afternoon to see the openers come out at 5pm Pacific. There was no line available earlier than that at Pinnacle.

[No coincidences]

SBR odds is garbage. I play at Pinnacle and am always at my computer on Sunday afternoon to see the openers come out at 5pm Pacific. There was no line available earlier than that at Pinnacle.

Could it have been an "off market" line?

If SBR is posting fake lines, that needs to be looked into immediately.

[LolsMcwinsey]

i hope greek loses his monday night 20* so he's down even more units

[No coincidences]

i hope greek loses his monday night 20* so he's down even more units

He doesn't even have a play does he?

[P25]

i hope greek loses his monday night 20* so he's down even more units

Why do you bother coming here? Must have a great life...

He doesn't even have a play does he?

See post 99

[LolsMcwinsey]

Why do you bother coming here? Must have a great life...



See post 99

Oh yea I must be a fat loser who's a virgin that sits in his moms basement right?

[suicidekings]

Could it have been an "off market" line? If SBR is posting fake lines, that needs to be looked into immediately.

The openers on SBR are notoriously bad and can't be relied on, ever. Despite the "upgrade" to the new version, it's still a piece... However there are many other sources for tracking line movements, both free and paid, so it's no big deal.

Cris actually opened -8 a couple minutes before Pinny (whose -9 was juiced to the dog, but they love the 1s and 9s for teaser protection). Regardless, Pinny releases lines as the SNF game is starting. No earlier.

[P25]

Oh yea I must be a fat loser who's a virgin that sits in his moms basement right?

I didn't say that....

[phillybadboy]

i hope greek loses his monday night 20* so he's down even more units

[LolsMcwinsey]

[BigDofBA]

Big D -- Pinny actually opened at -6 last Sunday and it immediately went to 9.

Thanks for the info. When I first saw the line it was at -9 so it must have made a pretty quick jump.

Either way, I didn't play Miami. I decided to lose money in the NHL. Evey dog seems to be hitting in the NHL. That's one sport in which I would think it would be very profitable to bet underdogs seeing as how all of the teams have pretty similar records at the end of the year.

I do not understand what's up with these lines lately. They all look way to easy and they are. I'm not trying to be "sharp" by making plays solely based on lines but in the few years I have been doing this, taking the favorite in games like this will get you buried over time....

When I looked earlier this after noon, the info I was looking at showed that 76% were on the Jets yet the line wasn't budging.

[alamo]

20* MIAMI + 7.5 ( - 115 ) Lean to the over gl

GG, Piece of advice. Its time for a break. Its getting kind of crazy now. Down nearly 400*, for your own sake take a break and come back in the new year.

[skyscrapers]

i hope greek loses his monday night 20* so he's down even more units

You got your wish...


Goldengreek's 2011-2012 Football Record -

NFL – Oct. 17 M

20* MIAMI + 7.5 ( - 115 ) = -23 -$2,300

Lean to the over = [final total: 30]


NFL – day (0-1) -23units -$2,300 season: (43-49-2 = 0.467) –95.55units -$9,555
NCAAF – season: (112-124-3 = 0.475) –270.5units -$27,050
NCAAF/NFL Combined - season: (155-173-5 = 0.473) –366.05units -$36,605

[Drewgasm]

Im not really sure why people root for other people to lose....I mean I understand if you bet the other way on a certain game...but I just mean overall in general....I want everyone to win....

~Gasm

[ncsubowen]

There have been a ton of people in here riding him, since he even started his thread. I can't imagine why they're still allowed to post since as far as I can tell they don't add to the forum.

At least Greek has the balls to stand in and make his plays, regardless of win/lose. I've never seen him edit or post a bad line (sans typos).

The whole idea of a handicapping forum is to get as many angles as you can on a game. I wish Greek only the best.

[goldengreek]

There have been a ton of people in here riding him, since he even started his thread. I can't imagine why they're still allowed to post since as far as I can tell they don't add to the forum.

At least Greek has the balls to stand in and make his plays, regardless of win/lose. I've never seen him edit or post a bad line (sans typos).

The whole idea of a handicapping forum is to get as many angles as you can on a game. I wish Greek only the best.

Jealous losers with no life...for some reason pissed when people have past success

[goldengreek]

20* ARIZONA + 4

20* KC + 4

20* MINNY + 10

15* JETS - 1

15* MIAMI + 1

10* WASH + 2.5

8* ST LOUIS + 14

8* ML PAR DETROIT / TENN ( 8* PAYS 11*'s )

8* UNDER 43.5 WASH / CAR

8* UNDER 43.5 SD / JETS

8* UNDER 49.5 NEW ORL / INDY

6* SEATTLE + 3



gl

[fishtot]

huh

[memo99]

Oh yea I must be a fat loser who's a virgin that sits in his moms basement right?

[LolsMcwinsey]

hopefully today greek loses all his winnings from yesterday plus more

[chimp]

hopefully today greek loses all his winnings from yesterday plus more

[skyscrapers]

Goldengreek's 2011-2012 Football Record -

NFL – Oct. 23 Su

20* ARIZONA + 4 = -22 -$2,200

20* KC + 4 = +20 +$2,000

20* MINNY + 10 = +20 +$2,000

15* JETS – 1 = +15 +$1,500

15* MIAMI + 1 = -16.5 -$1,650

10* WASH + 2.5 = -11 -$1,100

8* ST LOUIS + 14 = -8.8 -$880

8* ML PAR DETROIT / TENN ( 8* PAYS 11*'s ) = -8 -$800

8* UNDER 43.5 WASH / CAR = [final total: 53] -8.8 -$880

8* UNDER 43.5 SD / JETS = [final total: 48] -8.8 -$880

8* UNDER 49.5 NEW ORL / INDY = [final total: 69] -8.8 -$880

6* SEATTLE + 3 = PUSH

NFL – day: (3-8-1) -37.7units -$3,770 season: (46-57-3 = 0.447) –133.25units -$13,325
NCAAF – season: (124-133-3 = 0.482) –249.6units -$24,960
NCAAF/NFL Combined - season: (170-190-6 = 0.472) –382.85units -$38,285

[LolsMcwinsey]

nice!

[ronaldo922]

I told you to fade him again this week. this guy hasnt gotten with the times. he doesnt have to read what a true public play is anymore and on top of the fact that he doesnt know sports or watch games whatsoever, he can't tell the difference.

[leetreaper]

no clue why he posts his plays, dunno

[SexyMit]

So everyone can Fade them DUH!!

[goldengreek]

20* JAX + 10

ALSO GONNA TAKE A SMALL TASTE ON THE ML + 440

gl