Better/worse teams in 2011

Deep_Rest · 07-29-11, 12:25 AM

I hate beating a dead horse, but I think the Bengals have a serious chance of shooting the moon this season. They lost their franchise QB, and their best WR. Their best defensive player Jonathan Joseph is also leaving...it's a shame too because they have a pretty easy schedule this year. If they had this years schedule last year, they could've made the playoffs.

NutsINyoMOUTH · 07-29-11, 12:46 AM

yea the bengals are awful I dont know how I forgot about them

McBa1n · 07-29-11, 01:11 AM

The OP really needs some guidance, so lets go:
Chiefs: good signings so far, bad releases, also - in the AFC W you're mental if you don't think they can contend. They're probably the best 'team' in that division right now.

Broncos: SPOT ON on Tebow. Orton is a top 20 NFL QB and is as tough as a top 5 QB. Orton throws almost a 2 to 1 td to pick ratio. Why you'd trust in Tebow(really bad pick) or Quinn (even WORSE pick - who can't throw the ball 50 yds and keep it in bounds) is viable, is mental. Just watch the tape. If Orton doesn't start, this team is no better than 2-3 wins, even in a shite division.

Bears: I think you're underestimating rule changes on the kickoffs - the Bears lost Daniel Manning, which is HUGE on special teams, specifically - but if you kick to Hester under the new rules, I think he COULD have an advantage, unless the ball is out of bounds. Bears have made HORRIBLE moves thus far. That said, the Bears personel wise is going the WRONG way, IMO. Not Vikings bad, but really bad.

Vince Young: FIRSTLY, if you do not believe he is amongst the top 32 QBs that can play in the NFL, you're a dumbass. Sure he has issues, so do a LOT of QBs, but if you compare his winning percentage vs the top 32, he's in the top 10. HORRIBLE argument. If he isn't a starter day 1 next year, the NFL is stupid. I'll take his winning percentage against a DICLOAD of QBs that will start day 1 and know he's better than them. He was in the wrong environment and needs to grow up, tho.

Falcons: Real bad argument. Roddy White/Michael Jenkins couldn't catch anything (and Julio Jones has WORSE hands, if that's possible, coming outta college). Matt Ryan is a nice starter, but not as good as say... ohhhhh Vince Young. Falcons have 1 of 3 starting linemen signed during free agency. It really comes down to how many they bring back. They'll also shed Snelling, he is as good of a 2 back as you can have in the league right now.

Jets: good post on them, strong arguments! Or not. The Jets will contend again. They have depth at important spots. Sanchez is not the winner, per se, but the rest of what's around him are. 2 conference championships in a row with a shite QB is nothing to disrespect.

Rams: Who cares? Bradford isn't worth his rookie deal and neither has anyone else in the past decade - the team did shed some deadweight players thus far (that take on big contracts), but they will contend this season. Count on it. They are bringing in tooooo many FA players. That's high risk material.

Eagles: Asante isn't that good, he's like T-Buck (Terrell Buckley) with size. He cannot press coverage at all. Rodger-Cromartie on the other hand is EXCELLENT. Samuel makes a DICKLOAD of nice picks in a cover-2 and nothing in press. Just watch tape. No idea how good Philly will be this year, but they will be competitive. Vick wears down and with DeShaun holding out? It will suck for Philly.

9rs: They resigned Alex Smith. Frank Gore will hold out (which I support). They cut Nate Clements.
They will compete for the bottom of that division. HORRIBLE O Line. If you can't figure out Alex Smith is NOT an NFL starter, then you're watching something I'm not. The guy stinks.

Lions: Can't count them until they get over 500, but they are for SURE a team on a ridiculous rise. They are missing a LOT of key pieces, but also have ELITE players, as well. Hard team to predict, Millen ruined them. They SHOULD be at WORST 9 and 7, but who knows. They have MASSIVE holes all over, with a dickload of journeymen covering them.

Cardinals: HUGE mistake making the Kolb deal IMO. Not so much they gave up the pick, but they also gave up a top corner (GG finding one). They are in for a bad year. If they developed Jon Skelton, they COULD contend - but they are not. The kid needs work, but not a lot, he can make any throw a top 5 QB can make (with more experience).

Saints: NO idea how good they will be. They have an already crowded backfield of sick players, but they added Sproles. Seems ol Seaner isn't paying enough to his crap defense. That said, resigning Lance Moore was a good one. They are likely a 9 win team, maybe better, but their D is friggin BAD.

k13 · 07-29-11, 03:48 AM

Denver won 4 games last year.... you think they'll only win what 3 games now if lucky... lol

They might win 3 in a row to start.

k13 · 07-29-11, 03:50 AM

I'd like to bet MAX on Denver winning 3 or more games this year.

icancount2one · 07-29-11, 04:46 AM

So far:

Better:

Philly: fixed the most glaring problems on D with DRC and Babin pickups. Jaquan Jarrett and Kurt Coleman will probably fill in well enough for Q. As for D-Jax hold out, they will either pay him or get Plax. The offense has weapons aplenty. I've always liked VY, so now that he's backing up Vick I don't think it's as big a concern.

Patriots: Bold moves picking up Ochocinco and Haynesworth. Put those two guys next to Branch and Wilfork respectively and it's dangerous.

Lions: duh

Chiefs: I think they're going to get better and OP doesn't know what he's talking about (your "logic" on the Jets and Rams doesn't makes sense either). This is a team with young emerging stars on both sides of the ball that just added another weapon in Steve Breaston.

Whoever gets Nnamdi

Worse:

Broncos: No Gaffney, no orton, no answers for the worst scoring defense in the league. It will take some time to clear up McD's mess.

Bengals: Again, dropping their WR/QB tandem with nobody to replace them. The Bengals return to shame.