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    what exactly is a trap?!?!!!!

    someone who knows what there talkin about pleas explain???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiTlist View Post
    someone who knows what there talkin about pleas explain???????
    It might mean a "trap" literally. Something that looks good and enticing for prey to fall into.

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    -3 Niners last week.

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    its a girl that has a penis or a tranny

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    Hahhaaa

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    All answers correct so far.

    Edit: Especially "niners -3"

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    So far everyone has been correct. Let me add:

    Gambler's definition of a trap:
    A line that looks too good to be true. Most squares fall into traps on a weekly basis because they lack the knowledge or the experience to know any better. A sharp bettor might be hesitant to bet into a line that looks enticing because he suspects it might be a trap line.

    Now how the fuk can you tell between a trap line and a good line? That's a good topic for another thread but suffice it to say that if the line moves your way after you bet it then you probably got a good line, if the line stays the same, moves slightly your way, or even moves the other way and you end up losing badly (see the Seattle game last Sunday), then you probably fell into a trap my friend.

    Move on and learn from it.

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    A trap is a line that looks really good but is actually the book making a play themselves. They are essentially setting the line wrong so they can take up a position on one side of the game and entice people to bet the other side by setting a line that looks great because of public knowledge. But the books know something you don't.

    Like that Seattle was going to destroy the niners
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    SD Chargers -4 last week. That trap took one of my sportsbook bankrolls. They are supposed to win 11 games this year and they say they are just as good without LT, and the game proves otherwise.

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    small road chalk

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    Charicteristics of a trap line include: road chalk, perrenial losing team v. a perrenial winning team, teams coming off extremely good or bad performances in nationally televised games.

    People forget how close the talent level is in professional and top level collegiant sports. It is typically small intangibles that make the difference. Over time you can start to pick up on these situations/trends.

    This will not gaurentee success. This will just give you an advantage. Always keep in mind, if the 100% same curcumstances led up to each event, 100% of the time the serious of events that ensued would be different.

    So, never be too quick to toot your own horn, or get down about things. But you will start to see patterns in trap lines.
    "Whoever wishes to foresee the future must consult the past; for human events resemble those of preceding times. This arises from the fact that they are produced by who have been, and ever shall be, animated by the same passions, and thus they necessarily have the same result." – Machiavelli
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    To me, I don't think a trap game is anything but a public bettors view. I hear that about vegas setting traps and to me I just dont think that they do. All lines made by oddsmakers are set to get equal action on both sides because if oddsmakers get equal action on both sides they win because of the juice factor obviously. People call them traps because they think vegas is trying to trick people when really vegas doesn't give a rats ass who covers the game, all they care about is equal action on both sides and thats where the line movements come in so that they adjust the lines for equal action. Now you see on multiple sites that 80% of bets are coming in one side and only 20% on the other. All that means is that the 20% bets are made by sharps who are throwing down way more $$ than the average joe public better int he 80%. I guess I will put it this way, why would Vegas set a trap line, and risk losing a lot of $ when they can ALMOST always guarantee a profit on every game by getting equal action. They are just so good at setting these lines that they know where to set it at so that they will get enough sharp action to equal the large amt. of public bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antifoil View Post
    its a girl that has a penis or a tranny
    hahaha oh snap, it's a trap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by $Burm$ View Post
    To me, I don't think a trap game is anything but a public bettors view. I hear that about vegas setting traps and to me I just dont think that they do. All lines made by oddsmakers are set to get equal action on both sides because if oddsmakers get equal action on both sides they win because of the juice factor obviously. People call them traps because they think vegas is trying to trick people when really vegas doesn't give a rats ass who covers the game, all they care about is equal action on both sides and thats where the line movements come in so that they adjust the lines for equal action. Now you see on multiple sites that 80% of bets are coming in one side and only 20% on the other. All that means is that the 20% bets are made by sharps who are throwing down way more $$ than the average joe public better int he 80%. I guess I will put it this way, why would Vegas set a trap line, and risk losing a lot of $ when they can ALMOST always guarantee a profit on every game by getting equal action. They are just so good at setting these lines that they know where to set it at so that they will get enough sharp action to equal the large amt. of public bets.
    A trap tends to be when the line is set so 80% of the public is on one side but they still get near equal money on the game because the sharps are smart enough to play the other side

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    You don't really know until after the game is played.

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    This week's traps are

    Houston -3
    NE -1

    Mind you, the mouse sometimes does get the cheese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eberetta1 View Post
    SD Chargers -4 last week. That trap took one of my sportsbook bankrolls. They are supposed to win 11 games this year and they say they are just as good without LT, and the game proves otherwise.
    My dime on SD under 11 wins -130 is looking good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    This week's traps are Houston -3 NE -1 Mind you, the mouse sometimes does get the cheese.
    Agree with Houston, not so much with NE.

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    If you haven't gotten the answer yet, a trap is when a line looks too good to be true so you take it but it really is too good to be true. This doesn't actually exist unfortunately because most lines are 50/50.

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    Don't go too crazy with traps. Most of the time I will be confident in a bet but go the other way since it falls into the trap category only to have the team I originally liked to win by double digits. Go with your gut

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    Quote Originally Posted by EXhoosier10 View Post

    A trap tends to be when the line is set so 80% of the public is on one side but they still get near equal money on the game because the sharps are smart enough to play the other side
    i think thats wat I said in what I wrote????? Idk maybe not

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRC View Post
    small road chalk
    See New England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonQueen View Post
    A trap is a line that looks really good but is actually the book making a play themselves. They are essentially setting the line wrong so they can take up a position on one side of the game and entice people to bet the other side by setting a line that looks great because of public knowledge. But the books know something you don't.

    Like that Seattle was going to destroy the niners
    bingo -

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    Quote Originally Posted by jquest View Post
    If you haven't gotten the answer yet, a trap is when a line looks too good to be true so you take it but it really is too good to be true. This doesn't actually exist unfortunately because most lines are 50/50.
    you say it doesn't exist but in the same sentence write that MOST, not all, lines are 50/50. So the second half of that statement is true... most lines are 50/50. But not all lines... so they do indeed exist. For instance: A book may know that a starting RB is definitely out for the game even though to the public he's listed as probable. Say the book then sets the line at -3 (+104) to bet on the team where the public thinks the starting RB is back. And +3(-114) on the side. Public is going to HAMMER the +104 line and no one will bet the -114 on that book because they can get -3(-110) elsewhere. So they are essentially taking action on only one side of the game, and taking LOTs of action cuz it's +104 for a line that say other book have listed as -110 or -105. That book is indeed setting a trap... if you want to call it that. You can also say the book itself is betting on the +3 but getting -104 odds to bet it instead of the -110 it can get at another site.

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    a game turns into a trap the minute I bet it

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    A trap game is something that only exists in the perception of the bettor. The bettor's are the ones who identify trap games because the line looks to good to be true for a certain side, usually they side they are leaning towards. The reality is all games are trap games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheme82 View Post
    agree with houston, not so much with ne.
    snap!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonQueen View Post

    you say it doesn't exist but in the same sentence write that MOST, not all, lines are 50/50. So the second half of that statement is true... most lines are 50/50. But not all lines... so they do indeed exist. For instance: A book may know that a starting RB is definitely out for the game even though to the public he's listed as probable. Say the book then sets the line at -3 (+104) to bet on the team where the public thinks the starting RB is back. And +3(-114) on the side. Public is going to HAMMER the +104 line and no one will bet the -114 on that book because they can get -3(-110) elsewhere. So they are essentially taking action on only one side of the game, and taking LOTs of action cuz it's +104 for a line that say other book have listed as -110 or -105. That book is indeed setting a trap... if you want to call it that. You can also say the book itself is betting on the +3 but getting -104 odds to bet it instead of the -110 it can get at another site.
    I dont think books do that. In my eyes, why would books risk losing a lot of $ if that team does end up covering. They have no reason to risk any money by taking in more $ on one side without adjusting the lines. The only way that what you said is true is if about equal sharp $ is coming in on the -3, otherwise theres no way they do that.

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    call me crazy but i think niners is a trap

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    NOrleans line set too low in order to make SF actually look good. Therefore people will play SF ml and side. Its reverse phsycology. Everyone and their mother knows Nawlins kicks the terds out of em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    snap!!!
    Good thing I had Wash +3.5 or I would have gone 0-1-1 on those. Perfect score on the Houston game, I wanted them to win to help my future on over 8 season wins for them, but I also wanted to cash my Washington bet. I also hit NYJ +0.5 1st. Q and NE -0.5 1st. H so still came up way ahead.

    Good call on the NYJ game though.

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