$6300 on Colts -2.5.

sportsfanatic · 12-09-10, 11:37 PM

sorry paco, tought beat man.

stealthyburrito · 12-09-10, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by sportsfanatic

yes it was.

its gotta sting beyond belief.

themoneyshot978 · 12-09-10, 11:37 PM

What pisses me off is, exactly as the announcers said, they should have gone for the kick and then the onside. EITHER WAY IT WAS A TWO POSSESSION GAME! you could score that touchdown but you still needed a field goal to win...

I rarely ever think games are rigged, but oh my god this is just ridiculous...

tad0matic · 12-09-10, 11:38 PM

really bad beat for paco, sorry man...

RDUBS · 12-09-10, 11:38 PM

Years ago the Dolphins walked off the field at the end of regulation. Vinitieri walked in for 2 Pts covering the spread for the Pats. I feel your pain but time heals it!!

emoney · 12-09-10, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by flyingillini

Will Paco come on and say the bet was never placed?

No, he will say that he had the Titans + 2 1/2

onetrickpony · 12-09-10, 11:38 PM

collins is gonna get a few death threats now

CougarSports · 12-09-10, 11:38 PM

This shi.t is depressing. The book is sharp as hell. For some reasons, I was almost 100% sure Titans will get the back door. And they did. The god damn book always win. It's either the game is fixed or the book has the Biff sports almanac. They set the open line at Colts -2.5, knowing public will jump all over it. And they did. A lot of people won't be able to sleep tonight. Guarantee!

The book just won't lose. Believe it or not, if the game was ended 30 - 21, then the open line for this game would of been Colts -4.5 or more to draw public on Titans game.

TheBookmaker · 12-09-10, 11:39 PM

This is the best night ever, thanks for your money Colts -2.5, -3 retards!

Naz18 · 12-09-10, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by themoneyshot978

What pisses me off is, exactly as the announcers said, they should have gone for the kick and then the onside. EITHER WAY IT WAS A TWO POSSESSION GAME! you could score that touchdown but you still needed a field goal to win... I rarely ever think games are rigged, but oh my god this is just ridiculous...

it doesn't matter what comes first...

Mikail · 12-09-10, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by themoneyshot978

What pisses me off is, exactly as the announcers said, they should have gone for the kick and then the onside. EITHER WAY IT WAS A TWO POSSESSION GAME! you could score that touchdown but you still needed a field goal to win...

I rarely ever think games are rigged, but oh my god this is just ridiculous...

They knew they couldn't win. If they intended on trying to win the game they would have kicked the FG with the few minutes on the clock then onside kicked. Don't think for a second these fuks aren't aware of the spread. NFL theatre at it's finest tonight.

madrabbit · 12-09-10, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by zam77

it's just money paco. you'll get it back

Yeah just money pfffttt big consolation like that means anything to him right now and there's no guarantee.

Easy to say after the game but if you're going to bet decent money why not go straight win? for 3 points more big deal. Why do most americans bet the line. Why not bet head to head?

ebbearsfb1 · 12-09-10, 11:39 PM

Had titans plus 4.5 colts ml.... for some reason thought it end like that.. everyone said peyton couldn't lose 4 in a row... he didn't didn't mean they'd cover

wtf · 12-09-10, 11:40 PM

it might be a fix

why didnt they kick the field goal and then onside kick and TRY FOR THE WIN

no, they had to get a touchdown

Jessica · 12-09-10, 11:40 PM

Ouch...tough beat.

Member · 12-09-10, 11:41 PM

That was one very expensive extra point

Mikail · 12-09-10, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by emoney

No, he will say that he had the Titans + 2 1/2

No he isn't like that. Guys owns up when he loses unlike most at sbr.

ringemup · 12-09-10, 11:43 PM

jeff fisher is fukkin dumb haha....cost u the game by not kickin the FG no wonder ur team is goin nowhere

maxcraft · 12-09-10, 11:43 PM

I told you paco don't do it... NFL is full of shit... Just get it next time bro..

Richards · 12-09-10, 11:43 PM

Not a fix, just ineptitude by Titans clock management, and colts defense.

themoneyshot978 · 12-09-10, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Naz18

it doesn't matter what comes first...

if you're trying to win, you FG it leaving time on the clock with hopes to recover (ie hope for a miracle recovery and TD)

if you go for a touchdown, you drain the clock early and the game ends the way it did tonight...

I just think you have a better chance of winning getting those easy points first, JMO

JosephPavs · 12-09-10, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by Mikail

No he isn't like that. Guys owns up when he loses unlike most at sbr.

I lose all the time but win enough to keep going....

sharpcat · 12-09-10, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by underthe total

an asset can be bought or sold in the market without affecting the asset's price

dude there is your definition of liquidity, stop using it incorrectly.....

also pinnacle is not the first to put our lines, the Greek for the last couple of yeats has been 1st to hang em

WTF is your problem dude???

Get a life do you really want me to write a 5 page long post on sports gambling game theory?

What are you trying to prove by arguing with me?

Who are you trying to impress?

By liquidity I am using gambler terminology for a highly liquid market with many buy or sell offers.

And who gives a shit about The Greeks .20 cent lines they have no need for their lines to be anywhere near as accurate as pinnacles .08 cent line. Its called the theoretical hold percentage and The Greek has twice the hold percentage of pinnacle so they have a much wider degree of accuracy to play with.

Piss off your a nobody and arguing with me is not going to make anybody think otherwise.

david09 · 12-09-10, 11:46 PM

NFL games fixed...specially this game...Indi won only 2..fixed.Paco...you will get them next time.....

frostno98 · 12-09-10, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by wtf

it might be a fix

why didnt they kick the field goal and then onside kick and TRY FOR THE WIN

no, they had to get a touchdown

We'll going for the field goal when the announcer's were begging for it was a 45-50 yard attempt, so it wasn't like it was a sure thing. When they got the first down at 10 on the following play, there was no point in not getting 7 points considering how close they already were to the endzone. So the strategy was right, just not enough time.

ringemup · 12-09-10, 11:47 PM

u can blame fisher for this 1...shoulda kicked the stupid fukkin ball guy has no brain

Kojack84 · 12-09-10, 11:49 PM

This game was fixed. It will hit the news sooner than you think.

JosephPavs · 12-09-10, 11:49 PM

highly volatile market

and Liquidity is how quickly an asset can be turned into cash

underthe total · 12-09-10, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

WTF is your problem dude??? Get a life do you really want me to write a 5 page long post on sports gambling game theory? What are you trying to prove by arguing with me? Who are you trying to impress? By liquidity I am using gambler terminology for a highly liquid market with many buy or sell offers. And who gives a shit about The Greeks .20 cent lines they have no need for their lines to be anywhere near as accurate as pinnacles .08 cent line. Its called the theoretical hold percentage and The Greek has twice the hold percentage of pinnacle so they have a much wider degree of accuracy to play with. Piss off your a nobody and arguing with me is not going to make anybody think otherwise.

i have been reading your shit here for a while and its almost correct i just finally decided to tell you that not everyone here is impressed. sorry it made you mad, but i figured it would, it seems important to you to be the Genius. just give the pinny shit a rest. they are sharp. thanks for telling eveyone our experience here will be better because of you.

KuLaPhU · 12-09-10, 11:52 PM

Titans and fisher doesnt play for the game.. They play for the money.. Vegas win, books win, Titans win... these people know better they ain't stupid.. they make money not lose money.

sapidoc · 12-09-10, 11:53 PM

It was for sure a setup.

1) They make it an EPIC 1st half lead so that less people would think of hedging the bet.
2) Down to the wire, then can kick a FG then go for an onside kick and the win. But instead they go for a touchdown? Why?
3) Oh I guess they want to lose the game, but at least get as close to 30 as possible to say it was close. Ok so then after the TD go for 2 points, not a conversion point. Oh wait.

Just unbelievable.

The best part is as someone else pointed out he didn't lose 4 in a row he won. Just didn't cover.

Member · 12-09-10, 11:53 PM

Henry at Pinnacle and Spiro at the Greek are both sharp

Both are great books too

jgray · 12-09-10, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by Richards

Not a fix, just ineptitude by Titans clock management, and colts defense.

Agree. That's all there was.

Sorry Paco. All you can do is move on to the next one.

sharpcat · 12-10-10, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by underthe total

i have been reading your shit here for a while and its almost correct i just finally decided to tell you that not everyone here is impressed. sorry it made you mad, but i figured it would, it seems important to you to be the Genius. just give the pinny shit a rest. they are sharp. thanks for telling eveyone our experience here will be better because of you.

I try to educate people here and help them improve their game.

What have you ever contributed to this forum?

When have you ever helped someone calculate their odds on a play, or understand how to figure out what % each leg of a parlay needs to win at to be profitable, or whether or not a middle attempt is a profitable play or not?

I could give 2 shits what you or anybody thinks about me on this board

I am here to learn more ways to find value as a gambler and at the same time I try to educate people about what I know along the way. For every hater I have here like yourself I have 5 people that respect me and look to me for guidance.

TheSchafe · 12-10-10, 12:00 AM

Tough stuff Paco...but luckily enough you're good enough to come back from this.