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  • ssk13809
    SBR MVP
    • 08-25-10
    • 2595

    #806
    Originally posted by BetterBizness
    So in the end... Professionalism means nothing... I'm just being picky...

    K man.. do well with that then... You bring out your inexperience on an hourly basis... There are people in this forum who, despite being amateur betters, are extremely Professional in the craft of handicapping...

    You, are NOT....You may be one day.... But for now, picking winners is the LEAST of your worries...
    Once again, as long as I'm betting within my bankroll (which I am see my Week 13 play card), everything is fine. I didn't even change any of the plays either. And the big bets with high confidence still have big units on them.


    And picking winners always has been the least of my worries.
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    • RAVENSFAN
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-17-10
      • 891

      #807
      Originally posted by BetterBizness
      Whatever unit you want them to be bro...
      And to SSK too, I KNOW what units are. I'm specifically asking what SSK is ACTUALLY calling a unit. It says he is up 81+ units on the year so a $100 bettor would be up $8100+ I use about $20 units so I would be up over $1600 if I followed. I just don't get when people are betting these HUGE unit amounts (I counted around 176 units being bet) it just doesn't make sense to me. 176 of my units would be over 3500$.......not making any sense to me at all....
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      • ssk13809
        SBR MVP
        • 08-25-10
        • 2595

        #808
        Btw you never responded


        25 points on NE or NYJ winning SU, or on the ATS?
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        • ssk13809
          SBR MVP
          • 08-25-10
          • 2595

          #809
          Originally posted by RAVENSFAN
          And to SSK too, I KNOW what units are. I'm specifically asking what SSK is ACTUALLY calling a unit. It says he is up 81+ units on the year so a $100 bettor would be up $8100+ I use about $20 units so I would be up over $1600 if I followed. I just don't get when people are betting these HUGE unit amounts (I counted around 176 units being bet) it just doesn't make sense to me. 176 of my units would be over 3500$.......not making any sense to me at all....
          Once again, I actually explained everything you just asked. Read carefully.

          1st of all, as I've said before, units in this thread has nothing to do with real life for me. My real bankroll was very low to start this season, so I usually would have 100% of my bankroll on the line every week. It's gotten much bigger now.

          But for this thread I started with 100 units. This 100 units was assumed to be a large amount, for example 1 unit = 1k. So I had to use good money management, the most I'd bet on a game was 10% of my bankroll (10 units), and normally 3-5%. Kind of aggressive for a large amount, but I'm that good.


          Now you are probably wondering then, what is going on this week then? Well I'm projected to do really good, and I have a Money Management team that based on these projections (which have proven to be correct) has decided to be VERY aggressive this week.



          So in summary, 1 unit has no relation in real-life, but is supposed to be a considerable amount of money (1k). But this week I will do very well. So you can watch from the side or join the ride.
          But once again, I have never put my whole bankroll (176 units) on the line like this before, and stick to normally 3%-5% per bet. This week is unique. THe picks are very strong. But if I had to pick something based on this thread, 1 unit = 1k.
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          • BetterBizness
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 05-20-06
            • 5737

            #810
            Originally posted by RAVENSFAN
            And to SSK too, I KNOW what units are. I'm specifically asking what SSK is ACTUALLY calling a unit. It says he is up 81+ units on the year so a $100 bettor would be up $8100+ I use about $20 units so I would be up over $1600 if I followed. I just don't get when people are betting these HUGE unit amounts (I counted around 176 units being bet) it just doesn't make sense to me. 176 of my units would be over 3500$.......not making any sense to me at all....
            Wasn't a shot at you bro... But it's all a pretend Bankroll of "large" somethings that are hypothetically wagered... or wagered and taken back.. I really never know in here...
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            • BetterBizness
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 05-20-06
              • 5737

              #811
              Originally posted by ssk13809
              Btw you never responded


              25 points on NE or NYJ winning SU, or on the ATS?
              Well I should be getting +170 if I am betting ML....

              But I will take 25 ATS of 3 when you put the bet out...Or wait... Should I get +3.5 now that another day has elapsed and I want to take some of my points back...

              No... I will take +3... I think the Jets come through...
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              • ssk13809
                SBR MVP
                • 08-25-10
                • 2595

                #812
                Originally posted by BetterBizness
                Well I should be getting +170 if I am betting ML....

                But I will take 25 ATS...
                I would've gave you +500 ML. Tom Brady never loses at home.


                But alrite thanks for the free points.
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                • RAVENSFAN
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-17-10
                  • 891

                  #813
                  Originally posted by BetterBizness
                  Wasn't a shot at you bro... But it's all a pretend Bankroll of "large" somethings that are hypothetically wagered... or wagered and taken back.. I really never know in here...
                  OKAY thats what I figured. Knew it wasnt a shot. all good bro. Just needed someone to confirm that this was a fairytale thread of made up BS. 1 unit=1k LMAO. So he's got 176k on the line this week apparently. Any where I've read and from my short experience here is that 1unit should equal between .5-2% of you bankroll MAX. So this UNIT measuring makes NO SENSE in here at all.
                  Thanks
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                  • ssk13809
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-25-10
                    • 2595

                    #814
                    Originally posted by RAVENSFAN
                    OKAY thats what I figured. Knew it wasnt a shot. all good bro. Just needed someone to confirm that this was a fairytale thread of made up BS. 1 unit=1k LMAO. So he's got 176k on the line this week apparently. Any where I've read and from my short experience here is that 1unit should equal between .5-2% of you bankroll MAX. So this UNIT measuring makes NO SENSE in here at all.
                    Thanks
                    1 unit = 1/Total Units of my BankRoll Max. Which is less than 1% like your "short experience" tells you.

                    You're just confused.
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                    • dodgerblue
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 09-14-10
                      • 232

                      #815


                      BB,

                      You think you're doing people a favor by being an auditor? What SBR PRECISELY doesn't need is another auditor like you. Folks like you, who think they are well-intention, go from thread to thread to crap. To find the flaws in someone else's picking style, money management, or whether they are accounting for juice or not. The result? Some of the best cappers get tired of dealing with crap, and they stop trying to help!!!!

                      I'm sure you don't share my view, but do you see why this is a problem?
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                      • ssk13809
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-25-10
                        • 2595

                        #816
                        Guys I'm looking at my plays, and I'm trying to figure out which ones have a shot at losing. All the plays seem so easy, especially the teaser. Big weekend coming up.
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                        • RAVENSFAN
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-17-10
                          • 891

                          #817
                          Originally posted by ssk13809
                          1 unit = 1/Total Units of my BankRoll Max. Which is less than 1% like your "short experience" tells you.

                          You're just confused.
                          No your thread makes no sense. Your telling ppl to go all in pretty much just on a few seperate plays it seems?
                          So tell me this. If I was brand new and my starting bankroll was $500 and I wanted to follow your plays this weekend. Tell me how I would do it please....just take 500/176= 2.84 UNITS and then multiply those by the absurd unit #s of 26 and 18 etc? Am I right?
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                          • BetterBizness
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 05-20-06
                            • 5737

                            #818
                            Originally posted by dodgerblue


                            BB,

                            You think you're doing people a favor by being an auditor? What SBR PRECISELY doesn't need is another auditor like you. Folks like you, who think they are well-intention, go from thread to thread to crap. To find the flaws in someone else's picking style, money management, or whether they are accounting for juice or not. The result? Some of the best cappers get tired of dealing with crap, and they stop trying to help!!!!

                            I'm sure you don't share my view, but do you see why this is a problem?
                            No.. I see that if people make their own rules, and don't abide by them, they look like idiots... "Shaving" 22 units so you can bet more is NOT what the thread was about.. it was about starting with 100 units and building them... The fact that 4 Bets were put out reduces the amount that you are able to "bet"...

                            Why is there even a bankroll to begin with if you're not going to follow it?
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                            • ssk13809
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-25-10
                              • 2595

                              #819
                              Originally posted by RAVENSFAN
                              No your thread makes no sense. Your telling ppl to go all in pretty much just on a few seperate plays it seems?
                              So tell me this. If I was brand new and my starting bankroll was $500 and I wanted to follow your plays this weekend. Tell me how I would do it please....just take 500/176= 2.84 UNITS and then multiply those by the absurd unit #s of 26 and 18 etc? Am I right?
                              I think it through %s

                              So for the Eagles/Cheifs teaser. I am putting 27/176 units on it, that's 15%. So you would put 15% of 500, or $76.70.

                              What you said works too.




                              But once again, I usually have 3%-5% per play. But I am projected to do really well this week by my analysts, and for the 1st time my MM team is taking advantage of this and betting big on all the bets.
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                              • ssk13809
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-25-10
                                • 2595

                                #820
                                Originally posted by BetterBizness
                                No.. I see that if people make their own rules, and don't abide by them, they look like idiots... "Shaving" 22 units so you can bet more is NOT what the thread was about.. it was about starting with 100 units and building them... The fact that 4 Bets were put out reduces the amount that you are able to "bet"...

                                Why is there even a bankroll to begin with if you're not going to follow it?
                                If you bet within your bankroll every week, then everything is fine. That is why there is a bankroll. I can only bet how much I have in my bankroll in a given week.

                                So as long as

                                - I am still betting within my bankroll acquired every week
                                - I play the proper lines and don't change them if it gets better or worse

                                Then everything is fine. I have the same bets. Same lines. Just slightly different amounts on each bet, and I'm not taking advantage of a new line.


                                Thats what it ultimately comes down to, I'm not gaining any unfair advantage such as a better line or less juice or something.
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                                • ssk13809
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-25-10
                                  • 2595

                                  #821
                                  Originally posted by BetterBizness
                                  it was about starting with 100 units and building them... The fact that 4 Bets were put out reduces the amount that you are able to "bet"...
                                  Your acting like doing what I did suddenly increases my bankroll lol. Sure I have more to bet, but I now have less that I have already bet. In the end, as long as it all adds up to the bankroll total, I can continue building my bankroll without any "extra" units or "better lines" or anything else unfair.

                                  Bottomline, no advantages.
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                                  • ssk13809
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-25-10
                                    • 2595

                                    #822
                                    Anyways back to football. Will post my plays once each page so we stay on task.

                                    Official Week 13 Play Card



                                    2 Team Teaser (6 points)
                                    Eagles -2
                                    Cheifs -2
                                    Risk 27.5 to Win 25

                                    Patriots -175 ML
                                    Risk 26.2 to Win 15

                                    Patriots -3 ATS
                                    Risk 18.8 to Win 15

                                    Rams -3 ATS
                                    Risk 18 to Win 15

                                    Seahawks -6 ATS

                                    Risk 16.5 to Win 15

                                    Ravens -150 ML
                                    Risk 7.5 to Win 5

                                    3 Team Teaser (6 points)
                                    Saints -0.5
                                    Colts +0.5
                                    Seahawks pk

                                    Risk 25 to Win 45

                                    3 Team ML Parlay
                                    Eagles -375
                                    Chargers -600
                                    Packers -525

                                    Risk 15 to Win 11.4

                                    3 Team ML Parlay
                                    Colts -245
                                    Chiefs -430
                                    Chargers -600

                                    Risk 10 to Win 10.3

                                    ATS Parlay
                                    Saints -6.5
                                    Colts -5.5
                                    Seahawks -6
                                    Patriots -3 (-125)
                                    Rams -3 (-130)
                                    Ravens -3

                                    Risk 4 to Win 173.2

                                    3 Team Teaser (6.5 Points)
                                    Rams +3.5
                                    Patriots +3
                                    Ravens +3.5

                                    Risk 10 to Win 16





                                    Have any questions about any of the picks let me know. But like I said, with high analyst projections, MM team going in hard. Should be a huge weekend.

                                    I'll be surprised to lose any of these bets (except maybe ATS 6 team parlay lol)
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                                    • The J-Dizzle
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-09-10
                                      • 1091

                                      #823
                                      were'nt you risking 60 units on the Patriots? When you first posted your plays was Patriots ML 35 units and Patriots-3 25 units.
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                                      • ssk13809
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-25-10
                                        • 2595

                                        #824
                                        Originally posted by The J-Dizzle
                                        were'nt you risking 60 units on the Patriots? When you first posted your plays was Patriots ML 35 units and Patriots-3 25 units.

                                        Read last 3 pages


                                        But basically, my teams have relocated the units with all of the same bets for optimal profit. But I am still betting big on NE and all the other big bets I had.

                                        And I am still within my bankroll. Gaining no advantages here. If I lose, I'll still lose big. If I win, I'll still win big.






                                        Hey J-Dizzle, I know you've had some bad weeks. This is your week to make it up.
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                                        • The J-Dizzle
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-09-10
                                          • 1091

                                          #825
                                          Hehe okey I see!

                                          BOL ssk this week man! I really like the Rams myself (Cards have problem getting those first downs), nice to see both you and scottlocke on them aswell when I saw your thread
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                                          • dugdogg
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-10-10
                                            • 2708

                                            #826
                                            I dont understand why when a pick like NE is a LOCK then you would even bother betting the ML??? terrible value at -175 when the spread is -3 anyway. or do you refer to LOCKs as ML picks?
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                                            • ssk13809
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-25-10
                                              • 2595

                                              #827
                                              Originally posted by dugdogg
                                              I dont understand why when a pick like NE is a LOCK then you would even bother betting the ML??? terrible value at -175 when the spread is -3 anyway. or do you refer to LOCKs as ML picks?
                                              All my LOCK plays I bet ATS + ML. But you're right this is stupid. From on now, LOCK is only a LOCK if I say its a LOCK and it has LOCK approval from my LOCK team. LOCK that.
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                                              • BetterBizness
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-20-06
                                                • 5737

                                                #828
                                                Originally posted by ssk13809
                                                All my LOCK plays I bet ATS + ML. But you're right this is stupid. From on now, LOCK is only a LOCK if I say its a LOCK and it has LOCK approval from my LOCK team. LOCK that.
                                                Maybe the Greatest post ever from ssk
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                                                • venge
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 11-09-09
                                                  • 41

                                                  #829
                                                  Bol SSK. I'll be tailing your single plays and teasers. schtick or not, I like the picks most of the picks and your thread is not cluttered with a lot of bs.......yet. haha keep it up and great work so far!
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                                                  • BetterBizness
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 05-20-06
                                                    • 5737

                                                    #830
                                                    Are you betting the 25 points on the NE game or what?
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                                                    • dugdogg
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-10-10
                                                      • 2708

                                                      #831
                                                      agreed betterbiz...funny that no one pointed that out until i did...even funnier was that i was responsible for changing one of his rules...

                                                      ssk can you base a team around me??
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                                                      • ssk13809
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-25-10
                                                        • 2595

                                                        #832
                                                        Originally posted by BetterBizness
                                                        Are you betting the 25 points on the NE game or what?
                                                        Yes we are on.

                                                        NE -3

                                                        Once again free points. I can't believe you are going against a LOCK pick. Knowing that last year I went 7-0 and in my thread I am 4-0 so far. Please fire everyone in your fade team after this week.
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                                                        • ssk13809
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-25-10
                                                          • 2595

                                                          #833
                                                          Originally posted by dugdogg
                                                          agreed betterbiz...funny that no one pointed that out until i did...even funnier was that i was responsible for changing one of his rules...

                                                          ssk can you base a team around me??
                                                          Well as I said earlier I am actively recruiting a ML and and ATS team. Posters are sending applications (just something that shows you are good at ML or ATS) through PM. If you'd like to join you have to show you are good at ATS or ML and then get accepted. It will be an elite group. And my picks will become even stronger.
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                                                          • Full Time Hobo
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-16-10
                                                            • 2778

                                                            #834
                                                            Like your picks.
                                                            Worried about your Rams and Ravens plays.
                                                            Rams up against the cards after they were embarrassed on Monday night.
                                                            Rams are Hot right now and the cards are trash yes... but cards home after something like that gets me a little worried.
                                                            Hope youre right about the ravens Worried about it because the Steelers always play them hard and Raperburger i think is like 7-2 against Baltimore in his career and Sunday night will have the focus on the teams to really play their best.

                                                            Stats are nice to go with for the Pats so I see where the whole dont fade Brady comes in. Personally hate the Pats and hope the Jets beat them but this should be a strange match up that is nothing compared to their first meeting.
                                                            Pats have a terrible D but have the offense to compete with the Jets. The entire game depends on Sanchez i feel. If he is on then the Pats may be in trouble. Jets need to keep their Defense off the field. Their record is misleading because of the OT wins they pulled and last minute scoring to win.
                                                            Overall Liking the Pats here.

                                                            Havent exactly looked into Philly. the over 51 actually caught my interest because the eagles can easily scor big against a terrible houston Def. and if Houstons offense catches they can put up points against a recently poor performing Eagle D. Would be a little play though nothing willing to go heavy on.

                                                            Seattle can easily wreck the Panthers... but I feel like they are hit or miss and Carolina may hit desperation mode. Emotional upset with that missed FG against the browns cost them the game... may be some stupid unpredictable outcome this week because of it. but putting money against a beat up Carolina team is good.

                                                            Like the Saints Definitely. Bengals have given up. If they are behind 2h they stop playing and can easily be blown out. The Saints just need to focus on beating the hell out of them because the bengals can easily go for the win if they feel they are in it.

                                                            Colts are good. Expect Manning to have a huge rebound at home after being embarrassed by the Bolts.


                                                            Obviously not the greatest analysis but my opinions none the less.
                                                            Probably tailing on some plays but not for as much.

                                                            Good luck this week man
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                                                            • BetterBizness
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 05-20-06
                                                              • 5737

                                                              #835
                                                              Originally posted by ssk13809
                                                              Yes we are on.

                                                              NE -3

                                                              Once again free points. I can't believe you are going against a LOCK pick. Knowing that last year I went 7-0 and in my thread I am 4-0 so far. Please fire everyone in your fade team after this week.
                                                              Then we should make it 50 points...
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                                                              • ssk13809
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-25-10
                                                                • 2595

                                                                #836
                                                                Originally posted by BetterBizness
                                                                Then we should make it 50 points...
                                                                Fine 50 points. I'll take as many free points as you give me.
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                                                                • ssk13809
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-25-10
                                                                  • 2595

                                                                  #837
                                                                  Originally posted by Full Time Hobo
                                                                  Like your picks.
                                                                  Worried about your Rams and Ravens plays.
                                                                  Rams up against the cards after they were embarrassed on Monday night.
                                                                  Rams are Hot right now and the cards are trash yes... but cards home after something like that gets me a little worried.
                                                                  Hope youre right about the ravens Worried about it because the Steelers always play them hard and Raperburger i think is like 7-2 against Baltimore in his career and Sunday night will have the focus on the teams to really play their best.

                                                                  Stats are nice to go with for the Pats so I see where the whole dont fade Brady comes in. Personally hate the Pats and hope the Jets beat them but this should be a strange match up that is nothing compared to their first meeting.
                                                                  Pats have a terrible D but have the offense to compete with the Jets. The entire game depends on Sanchez i feel. If he is on then the Pats may be in trouble. Jets need to keep their Defense off the field. Their record is misleading because of the OT wins they pulled and last minute scoring to win.
                                                                  Overall Liking the Pats here.

                                                                  Havent exactly looked into Philly. the over 51 actually caught my interest because the eagles can easily scor big against a terrible houston Def. and if Houstons offense catches they can put up points against a recently poor performing Eagle D. Would be a little play though nothing willing to go heavy on.

                                                                  Seattle can easily wreck the Panthers... but I feel like they are hit or miss and Carolina may hit desperation mode. Emotional upset with that missed FG against the browns cost them the game... may be some stupid unpredictable outcome this week because of it. but putting money against a beat up Carolina team is good.

                                                                  Like the Saints Definitely. Bengals have given up. If they are behind 2h they stop playing and can easily be blown out. The Saints just need to focus on beating the hell out of them because the bengals can easily go for the win if they feel they are in it.

                                                                  Colts are good. Expect Manning to have a huge rebound at home after being embarrassed by the Bolts.


                                                                  Obviously not the greatest analysis but my opinions none the less.
                                                                  Probably tailing on some plays but not for as much.

                                                                  Good luck this week man
                                                                  I like all the picks.


                                                                  I've said for a while, the Cardinals I think are the worst team in the NFL. Why not? They have no defense, no passing game with their QBs, and no running game. What does this team have that can win a game? Nothing. I'm just a little cautious because it is in Arizona, but really, both the Seahawks and the 49ers have come here and blown out Arizona. This play might be upgraded to a lock soon.


                                                                  To me Ravens have played better than the Steelers so far, and they are a strong home team. With those 2 said, I expect them to win it. It remains to be seen by how much they actually win though.

                                                                  One thing about the Seahawks, they dominate weak teams and get dominated by good teams. Panthers suck. It's in Seattle. No way Seattle loses this, it is desperation mode for Seattle right now.

                                                                  Saints are playing their best right now. Bengals just suck. I fully expect Saints to win easily. And yes, Manning is Manning, and you better believe he will rout Dallas this Sunday.










                                                                  Basically, they are all winning plays
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                                                                  • franklt
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 11-02-10
                                                                    • 158

                                                                    #838
                                                                    interesting write up. thank you
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                                                                    • orlandito
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 06-29-10
                                                                      • 103

                                                                      #839
                                                                      [COLOR=#000000 ! important]interesting write up. thank you[/COLOR]
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                                                                      • wquine
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 09-30-09
                                                                        • 2047

                                                                        #840
                                                                        agree with u ssk for the most part. will have to research the ravens game more carefully. but the steelers have def lost some of their mojo recently.
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