Seattle Complete Trap?

slacker00 · 10-26-10, 02:16 PM

Great analysis. This one bugs me, but when push comes to shove, I gotta take Seattle here. Lovely teaser number.

dwang0725 · 10-26-10, 02:39 PM

I think this line has a lot to do with injuries on Seattle's squad. Okung might not play and Mabene is still nursing a calf injury. I think Okung has been the reason why Seattle has been somewhat successful running the ball. Afte Okung left the game against Arizona, Lynch had 20 carries for only 36 yards. Also one can argue that the reason for Arizona's success in running the ball (first team to run over 100 yds on them, 113 running yards total) was due to Mabene's absence.

Let's not kid ourselves here. The reason Seattle won that game was due to the 3 Arizona TOs (5 TOs total) inside the Arizona 20 that turned into 13 points. Their offense never looked good with the exception of 1 drive that ended at the Arizona 1 yard line (FG). I just don't see Oakland's RBs turning the ball over 5 times in this game.

With the exception of the 1 win against Chicago (1-2), Seattle is not a very good road team.

I'm staying far away from this game. There are many other attractive games on the menu for Sunday.

Jonah · 10-26-10, 02:56 PM

Oakland winning two in a row is a crazy thought.

WormStyle · 10-26-10, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by slacker00

Great analysis. This one bugs me, but when push comes to shove, I gotta take Seattle here. Lovely teaser number.

Totally agree... will prob tease this.

thebestthereis · 10-26-10, 03:31 PM

oakland with a gun to my head

Glitch · 10-26-10, 03:47 PM

tossup is a better word than trap. mcfadden is a man possessed lately. seattle was relatively unimpressive in the second half against the bears and in the game against the cardinals. when they've been winning their passing game has been working some but mainly it seems like they've been capitalizing off other peoples' mistakes.

you dont Have To bet every game.

BetterBizness · 10-26-10, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Glitch

you dont Have To bet every game.

Not sure where this came from.. I typically make 3-4 plays a week... This was just one of the ones I liked, and so far still like... although there are some good arguments , particularly with injuries as to why it's not as good as it may appear to be... but may still look good in teaser potential...

Scorpion · 10-26-10, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Jonah

Oakland winning two in a row is a crazy thought.

BINGO sir
you nailed it

last yr Oakland under Cable won 5 games
What did they do in their next game?
The last all 5 by at least 14 points, did not cover any

Only thing that I dont like is that Seattle has won 2 straight

vboyt · 10-26-10, 05:39 PM

yea LOL, seattle hmmmm

Scorpion · 10-26-10, 05:50 PM

Campbell is shit at QB and their starting WR murphy is out

ssk13809 · 10-26-10, 10:39 PM

I live in Seattle...

1st of all, the only reason Cardinals had any success running against Seattle is because Seattle vs. Arizona decided to go with a pass heavy defense. They had 7 DBs lined up in some places, and 6 many times. That's why they totally shutdown the Cardinals passing game. I mean, Cardinals passing game is already not good, but just look at how Max was doing before he left the game, 4/16. Yes 4/16. Anderson didn't do much better at 8/17, he kind of caught Seattle off guard with a 4/4 start, but finished 4/13 himself.

But when Seattle wants to stop the run, it can. I don't think they will play a pass-heavy defense against the Raiders. They will play balanced or even run heavy, but either way they will stop the run. Nonetheless, the problem is the Seahawks pass defense is horrible when they don't concentrate fully on their pass defense. So Campbell might actually do decent, yes thats how bad the Seahawks pass defense is, though its looking better.

At the end of the day, this is close. Raiders actually have been one of the worst home teams in the NFL the past few years. While Seahawks one of the worst road teams. I'd stay away from this one, if anything, small action on Seattle.

Robust · 10-27-10, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by thebestthereis

oakland with a gun to my head

NO PLAY!

Robust

BetterBizness · 10-27-10, 01:49 AM

I think seattle's road record is particularly exaggerated based on their just pure SUCK AZZINESS over the last 3 years.. particularly when they cross time zones... particularly in the East... the fact that this is still in PST makes this a lesser argument...

Looking it up.. Seattle since 03 is 8-8 on the road within 1 time zone.. i.e Ari/SF/SD/Den/Oak

It's not the be all and end of of statistics.. I'm just showing for the record, that Seattle's road record throughout even the bad year, within a time zone is not THAT bad...

ssk13809 · 10-27-10, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by BetterBizness

I think seattle's road record is particularly exaggerated based on their just pure SUCK AZZINESS over the last 3 years.. particularly when they cross time zones... particularly in the East... the fact that this is still in PST makes this a lesser argument...

Looking it up.. Seattle since 03 is 8-8 on the road within 1 time zone.. i.e Ari/SF/SD/Den/Oak

It's not the be all and end of of statistics.. I'm just showing for the record, that Seattle's road record throughout even the bad year, within a time zone is not THAT bad...

lol. This is the NFL kid. Nobody cares about Time Zone.

Daveyboy · 10-27-10, 03:51 AM

Seattle winning on the road? Hmmm

jureslo · 10-27-10, 05:28 AM

No play, but i think Oakland.

BetterBizness · 10-27-10, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by ssk13809

lol. This is the NFL kid. Nobody cares about Time Zone.

oh wow... from a guy that proclaims totals are a complete waste of time ...

You say the funniest sheit

tomcast · 10-27-10, 11:54 AM

I have an Oakland lean

Glitch · 10-27-10, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by BetterBizness

Not sure where this came from.. I typically make 3-4 plays a week... This was just one of the ones I liked, and so far still like... although there are some good arguments , particularly with injuries as to why it's not as good as it may appear to be... but may still look good in teaser potential...

wasnt targetted to you specifically. someone had just said "oakland with a gun to my head" i was thinkin "seattle with a gun to my head" but this seems like one of the games thats really gonna be decided on the field. a "gun to my head" type of game.

ps jason cambell is garbage.

BetterBizness · 10-27-10, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by Glitch

wasnt targetted to you specifically. someone had just said "oakland with a gun to my head" i was thinkin "seattle with a gun to my head" but this seems like one of the games thats really gonna be decided on the field. a "gun to my head" type of game.

ps jason cambell is garbage.

sorry.. np, I hear you.. in your opinion there are better options based on the card at hand...

C-Gold · 10-27-10, 05:52 PM

Jason Campbell doesn't have a brain. No matter what the defense shows, he's going to drop back, hold the ball longer than he should and then throw a 2 yard check down pass to his running back regardless of down and distance. If it's 4th and 10 on the final drive of the game, he'd rather throw that 2 yard pass for stats, then try and throw the ball down field and try and win the game. He has no business starting an NFL game and I hate him with a passion.

C-Gold · 10-27-10, 05:55 PM

Oh and last year the Redskins won 4 games in a 16 game season. The didn't make drastic roster changes besides quarterback and they've already matched last years win total through 6 games and this years schedule has been more difficult.

The Redskins would never win under Campbell, but you'd always get excuses. His line, his receivers, his coaches, his defense... Same shit you always hear when running quarterbacks fail. It couldn't possibly be him, it's got to be his teammates fault. Well now he's exposed, he freaking sucks and they'd be better off starting Bruce Gradkowski or Kyle Boller.

Nomocino · 10-27-10, 06:07 PM

Nice Write Up

SEAHAWKS 27
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GunShard · 10-27-10, 06:35 PM

Seattle are not very good on the road.
They did beat an unorganized Chargers and and Bears team, but I'm not convinced.
Slight lean on the Raiders for home advantage.

CaptainPrice · 10-27-10, 06:51 PM

Seattle fo sure.
Oakland isn't consistent enough and looks inflated from the Denver game right now

BetterBizness · 10-27-10, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by C-Gold

Oh and last year the Redskins won 4 games in a 16 game season. The didn't make drastic roster changes besides quarterback and they've already matched last years win total through 6 games and this years schedule has been more difficult.

The Redskins would never win under Campbell, but you'd always get excuses. His line, his receivers, his coaches, his defense... Same shit you always hear when running quarterbacks fail. It couldn't possibly be him, it's got to be his teammates fault. Well now he's exposed, he freaking sucks and they'd be better off starting Bruce Gradkowski or Kyle Boller.

This is a good analysis on Campbell... I mean he's no McNabb... But I see where you're coming from...

BetterBizness · 10-27-10, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by CaptainPrice

Seattle fo sure.
Oakland isn't consistent enough and looks inflated from the Denver game right now

I think the blowout has alot to do with this line and all of "Raida-Nation" that's on it... Lets face it, if Oakland loses but covers, or arguably wins by 3... they are 2-3 point dogs at home...

C-Gold · 10-27-10, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by BetterBizness

I think the blowout has alot to do with this line and all of "Raida-Nation" that's on it... Lets face it, if Oakland loses but covers, or arguably wins by 3... they are 2-3 point dogs at home...

Agreed, betters have a short memory and nobody wants to bet against a team that put up 50 points. But that's an abberation. The Raiders will come back down to earth.

BetterBizness · 10-27-10, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by C-Gold

Agreed, betters have a short memory and nobody wants to bet against a team that put up 50 points. But that's an abberation. The Raiders will come back down to earth.

You have to think that's one of the stronger points FOR Sea here... That as as I've mentioned as well, which you say in your own write up... They are playing WITHIN their time zone... as despite being an average to below average Road team, particularly in the East, which is well documented... On the road vs those 4 teams (Ari, SF, Den, Oak, SD) within 1 hour dif, they are 8-8 ML past 8 seasons... that says alot for a "bad" road team to be .500 ...

C-Gold · 10-27-10, 08:15 PM

Seattle has historically been a bad road team, but they also probably have the biggest disadvantage. It's not like the Redskins's short trip to Philly to play the Eagles, these guys often have to travel 3,000 miles. If there is ever an "easy" road game for Seattle, it's this.

TPowell · 10-27-10, 08:26 PM

guys Oakland is in for a big let-down. Seattle is very solid out west and they are VERY proficient at stopping the run.

Bogart45 · 10-27-10, 11:37 PM

I think Seattle wins this. The win in chicago 2 weeks ago was a big step foward for them.

BetterBizness · 10-28-10, 12:40 AM

This game went from -1 to -2.5 on Da Raida'z.... May as well wait to 3 if we're gonna play it...

TPowell · 10-28-10, 12:43 AM

I can't see this game hitting 3..... I also saw this game ending around a PK though. Hard to believe people are actually betting Oakland like this against a decent team in Seattle