Nfl Pro Bowl

LVHerbie · 02-06-06, 07:02 PM

do they have a rule where you can't sack the qb like the gay college senior bowl or something? this number seams really high for nfl even with the top in the league in the game...

bigboydan · 02-06-06, 07:05 PM

yes, they have that rule LVH. i feel it will still go under that total though.

imgv94 · 02-06-06, 07:14 PM

you cant sack the QB? I never noticed?

bigboydan · 02-06-06, 07:27 PM

img, maybe smoking weed doesn't help you as much as you think then

imgv94 · 02-06-06, 07:44 PM

I never really watched the game all that closely. Its the most meaningless
game out of all the all-star themed games. I never noticed that you
can't sack QB, what do they do? Cause I know
Offensive lineman are there? For What??

bigboydan · 02-06-06, 07:46 PM

they just rush the QB img. sacks are not allowed in this exhibition game

rm18 · 02-06-06, 09:37 PM

No blitzes, they can sack him

I guess I will have to study the rosters first but I am surprised the NFC is favored without looking, last year the AFC -3.5 was a real strong play for me, it actually ended similiar to the SuperBowl with an 11 point victory, although no dramatic last second drive

onlooker · 02-06-06, 09:41 PM

I will not be betting on this game, or show should I say.

slacker00 · 02-07-06, 12:36 AM

I wish they'd play this game during training camp or something. It's such a letdown after the Super Bowl. I never watch it.

Illusion · 02-07-06, 03:10 AM

I never watch this, but if I had to bet it would be the under.

LVHerbie · 02-07-06, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by rm18

No blitzes, they can sack him

How would you sack if you don't blitz? Just the d line can sack him? now I'm getting interested in this strictly for betting's sake

... anyone know where you can find historic scores from the probowl?

LVHerbie · 02-07-06, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by Illusion

I never watch this, but if I had to bet it would be the under.

What do you "had to bet" Illusion? Surely you don't mean to suggest that we aren't required to bet if there is only one game to bet on?

slacker00 · 02-07-06, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by LVHerbie

What do you "had to bet" Illusion? Surely you don't mean to suggest that we aren't required to bet if there is only one game to bet on?

Illusion might be talking about a free bet sometimes offered by sportsbooks or whatever. For example, I've got a free $50 bet on the Kentucky Derby as part of a signup bonus at a particular book. I know zero about horses, but here is a situation where I've got to bet on them, so to speak. I saw another free bet option on the coinflip for the Super Bowl on the VIP site. If you look hard enough, there's maybe a free bet opportunity somewhere on the internet on the Pro Bowl.

rm18 · 02-07-06, 10:59 PM

The D-line can rush, and the AFC is favored by 4 not the NFC

LVHerbie · 02-08-06, 12:17 AM

needless to say it's hard to find much on the probowl as far as scouting goes but I finally found some historical scores by googling... anyhow, I did this all by hand so if anyone is as bored as me and wants to check this fill free...

2005 - AFC - 38-27 - Total 65
2004 - NFC - 55-52 - 107
2003 - AFC - 45-20 - 65
2002 - AFC - 38-30 - 68
2001 - AFC - 38-17 - 55
2000 - NFC - 51-31 - 82
1999 - AFC - 23-10 - 43
1998 - AFC - 41-13 - 54
1997 - AFC - 26-23 OT - 49
1996 - NFC - 20-13 - 33

AFC - 7 / NFC - 3

average points (last 10 years) - 62.1
average points (last 5 year) - 72
average points (last 3 year) - 79

aganist current over/under 68 // 2 overs / 7 unders / 1 tie

pinnacle -4 -104 / +4 -104 // ML +168 -178 // o67 -124 / u67 +114

check out all other sites listed on on the sbrline and listed what I found that was better then pinnacle

bowman total 69.5 /o -110 /u -110
matchbook -4 -103 / +4 -105 // ML +164 -176 // o68 -105 / u68 -103

others

nine total 68 / o -105 / u -105

1H

betcris +3 -125 / -3 +105 // o34 -110 / u34 -110
nine +1.5 -102 / -1.5 -118 // o34.5 -110 / u34.5 -110

LVHerbie · 02-08-06, 12:31 AM

my bets - NFC +168 (.1 unit) risk & u67 +114 (.1 unit)

anaysis - This is the probowl and, quite frankly, nobody cares... so, IMHO, all the above doesn't mean shit... thus I'm taking both the +juice bets just so if I hit one (or both) I will have a slight (real slight) reason to care...

LVHerbie · 02-08-06, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by LVHerbie

Wager Type: Straight Bet

Selection 1: NFL Football
NFC 12-February-2006 3:00 PST PM
Money Line for Game +168

Risking 10.00 to Win 16.80 USD

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Selection 2: NFL Football
NFC/AFC 12-February-2006 3:00 PST PM
Total Points UNDER 67 for Game +114

Risking 10.00 to Win 11.40 USD ---

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imgv94 · 02-08-06, 12:33 AM

NFC +168 (1.2357449938280802802747 units)

ILLusion grade this for me!

Illusion · 02-08-06, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by imgv94

NFC +168 (1.2357449938280802802747 units)

ILLusion grade this for me!

The hell with that.

Dark Horse · 02-08-06, 03:11 AM

Take this to the bank. The Seahawks anger about the Superbowl will motivate the NFC team.

imgv94 · 02-08-06, 04:07 AM

NFC+168 sounds good!!!

Dead Money · 02-08-06, 07:07 PM

I might do like a 25 dollar parlay nfc/under if I do bet this.

The probowl is pretty lame imo.

Maybe there will be some decent props or something. I can't get excited about this at all.

Spring training is soon atleast.

I would rather watch a Detroit vs Kansas City spring training game than this publicity stunt of a game.

RamblinRoyce · 02-09-06, 12:06 PM

I'm waitin' till someone posts which players get loaded and laid the most while in Hawaii...then i'm bettin'

Dark Horse · 02-09-06, 05:33 PM

NFC has six SEA starters on offense!
AFC has four IND starters on offense.

The only players that are in rhythm are the SEA and PIT players. All others are on at least three weeks off.

Defenses are on half intensity. My guess is that the Seahawks offense, once they get on the field, will make this 'one for the boys'. First of all, they'll want to flush that bad taste away. Secondly, they're not sure they'll all be on the same field again.

When Hasselbeck leaves the field, you get another frustrated QB in Delhomme, who just happens to have a guy by the name of Steve Smith to throw the ball to. Once Manning leaves, you have Green and McNair to take his place. Two backups that have been vacationing since somewhere around X-mas. (Brady, Plummer, and Palmer are all listed as injured).

This game could be a blowout, with one team on vacation and the other ready to play.

Why is the AFC favored?

LVHerbie · 02-10-06, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

NFC has six SEA starters on offense!
AFC has four IND starters on offense.

The only players that are in rhythm are the SEA and PIT players. All others are on at least three weeks off.

Defenses are on half intensity. My guess is that the Seahawks offense, once they get on the field, will make this 'one for the boys'. First of all, they'll want to flush that bad taste away. Secondly, they're not sure they'll all be on the same field again.

When Hasselbeck leaves the field, you get another frustrated QB in Delhomme, who just happens to have a guy by the name of Steve Smith to throw the ball to. Once Manning leaves, you have Green and McNair to take his place. Two backups that have been vacationing since somewhere around X-mas. (Brady, Plummer, and Palmer are all listed as injured).

This game could be a blowout, with one team on vacation and the other ready to play.

Why is the AFC favored?

My guess is because everyone thinks the AFC is so much stronger then the NFC this year... If I thought the players actually gave a shit about this game I would look at the AFC -4... but since they don't and the game is shit, I put this much closer to a coin toss... which is why I think NFC on the ML is a real strong play worth a real weak bet here...

RamblinRoyce · 02-11-06, 05:24 AM

What about the Polamalu Factor ? ...he's not gonna give em up easy. He's gotta impress his homeboys...mahalo.

and Manning can out QB Hasselbeck, but you're right, he may not care. But have you ever seen Manning NOT take the game seriously? Plus, he's gotta show Hasselbeck his Guns that he would have shown if he had not been foiled by Pittsburgh...Plus, he never got to go up against Hasselbeck during the season.

Ya say it's not serious and AFC may not take it serious, But as far as the QB's and the Starters for IND and SEA are concerned, it's the Super Bowl that almost happened...

Furthermore, these guys are pros. To get to the pros, you gotta be what? c'mon, anybody...COMPETITIVE. Sure this game doesn't count for much, but these guys COMPETE. They're PROS. It's in their blood and their nature.

It's a mini-Superbowl and IND players are gonna wanna show what would have been and SEA as well.

I'm Guessing the Polamalu Factor, especially on his home islands, will keep the game under and probably an AFC win, just to rub it in further for SEA...besides, computer dorks shouldn't own teams...

RamblinRoyce · 02-11-06, 05:35 AM

Actually, now i'm thinking Under 69 is a Great bet. Polamalu is Bad-ASS. He's involved in almost every play and he covers the field better than anybody. Plus, he's at home and when momma's watchin', ya gotta do your best. and if it ain't momma, Pops is gonna whoop ya if ya don't do your best. Polamalu alone is gonna keep the scores low.

Agreed bbDan, Under is a good bet. I'm gonna stake a decent amount on it too.

onlooker · 02-12-06, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by bigboydan

they just rush the QB img. sacks are not allowed in this exhibition game

Well thats bullcrap Dan, because I just seen Hasselbeck get sacked.

1-10-AFC45 (5:09) M.Hasselbeck sacked at NFC 48 for -7 yards (K.Vanden Bosch).

imgv94 · 02-12-06, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by bigboydan

img, maybe smoking weed doesn't help you as much as you think then

Maybe you smoked something like crack? Cause I
have seen 2 sacks already Dan.. Interesting
Dan, a little foot in the mouth action here.

onlooker · 02-12-06, 07:20 PM

Maybe Vanden Bosch didnt get the memo, because he has the two sacks.

Dark Horse · 02-12-06, 07:49 PM

Glad I skipped this game. Refs just took a NFC TD away, and no replay...

Still a real game for the zebras. Business as usual.

bigboydan · 02-12-06, 11:55 PM

it went under rather easy

presley177 · 02-13-06, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by bigboydan

it went under rather easy

I played the under about 30 minutes before the game started when I heard the weather report. : )

I figured A. ball wet/slippery, B. players don't want to go ALL out and risk injury on an exhibition game.

imgv94 · 02-13-06, 07:29 AM

There was alot of sacks in this game!!!