NFL is dying

[Scorpion]

Robinson was fined $50000

Robinsons hit was 100% legal, the WR is not defensless and he hits him in the shoulder

PERFECTLY EXCUTED AND CLEAN HIT IN EVERY WAY!




NFL will be 2 hand tag football pretty soon.

This was not a defenseless receiver. DeSean caught the ball and turned to run with it and got hit ON THE SHOULDER PAD. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that hit.

[SamsNCharge99]

the only hit worth a fine was the hit on Todd Heap

[Scorpion]

Its not Robinsons fault the pussy reciever is only 150 pounds

[Grandmaster B]

if you lead with your helmet on someone defenseless then you're a dirty player

[MadTiger]

if you lead with your helmet on someone defenseless then you're a dirty player

This.

[kcDdegenerate]

I agree it was a "legal" hit ,but it does not make it right....We can all say football is a brutal sport and voilence is a part of the game,but in the end it can be a safer sport....Anyone who down play concussions are just stupid...This great sport can still be brutal and safe....I think the NFL is just trying to make it a point for defenders to hit between the knees up and below the shoulder...Not that hard if you think about it...

[jjgold]

NFL teams are so banged up right now, it is survival out there

[Scorpion]

Give goodell time, they'll be wearing tutu's and tap shoes.

The nfl might as well start allowing women to play since players will no longer be able to hit like that anymore.

Roger Goodall favorite color is PINK

[jpete1966]

That hit was completely legal. Now receivers are going to have leg and knee injuries instead of concussions. The NFL is walking a slippery slope here.

[louis.ana]

That play was so dirty, even robinson was shaken up.

[pavyracer]

Maybe all QB's should throw on the run and throw the ball 3 feet higher than the receiver so that the receiver has to jump to get the ball and become defenseless so that he can't be tackled by the defender. This will open a new can of worms for the sissy NFL.

[pavyracer]

That play was so dirty, even robinson was shaken up.

Wrong! Robinson was shaken up because he got a concussion.

[Deuce]

Protecting investments. That is the only reason behind all of this.

[Brock Landers]

Watch Aussie rules football if you want to see tough players

[DroppinDimes]

So this would mean EVERY WR is defenseless? I mean how is Jackson defenseless, he had the freakin ball. And Robinson got injured too from hitting Jackson, so shouldn't Jackson get a fine as well? The league is getting soft. NFL = National Fairy League!!!

[Scorpion]

cocksucker

[antifoil]

the nfl is a business and he is made sound business decisions to protect the bottom line.

seems pretty smart to me

[jgray]

Maybe all QB's should through on the run and throw the ball 3 feet higher than the receiver so that the receiver has to jump to get the ball and become defenseless so that he can't be tackled by the defender. This will open a new can of worms for the sissy NFL.

I know you are being sarcastic here, but you are dancing around an unsaid part of this debate. If teams really wanted to protect their investment, they could change the way they call plays. The crossing route, while difficult to defend, is dangerous for the receiver (Jackson). So is the seam route for the TE (Heap). Unless the throw is perfect, collision is likely. You want to see change, fine the QB everytime he leads a WR out to die. The Harrison hit (Cribs) is going to happen in this game. The offensive player can avoid the hit by running more upright or going down at contact. Instead, he fights for an extra yard and dives forward. This is part of the game and we applaud the player who fights for every yard. Harrison is just holding up his end of the play by trying to prevent the first down and knock the ball out. Nothing wrong with that. Did Harrison pop him in the earhole? Yes. Was there anything else for him to hit? Given the way the run developed and Cribs fighting for the extra yardage, no.

True dirty hits should be fined. The Heap hit looked dirty to me because he launched himself into Heap. Violent collisions are a part of the game and the offense bears an equal amount of responsibilty when an injury occurs.

[louis.ana]

That is not how you make a tackle, that play was just plain dirty..
Every coach and player knows after doing a million football tackling drills that you NEVER come up and hit a player up high..

It is so much easier to wrap your arms around the waist or legs, you want to make sure you put your outside shoulder into the player waist area that you are wrapping up. You NEVER want to take your head and lead in with your head. First of all you are going to cause injuries, second of all you can pick up penalties for spiking into the center of persons chest.

[Wrigley]

I like Mike Ditka's ideal get rid of the face mask or go back to leather helmets and these leading with the helmet hits wont happen

[Naz18]

What I hate about Goodell is that here is talking about player safety and what not, but the fans demand violence. While with the 18 game season he says the fans demand more games yet he totally forgets about the players.

[pavyracer]

I know you are being sarcastic here, but you are dancing around an unsaid part of this debate. If teams really wanted to protect their investment, they could change the way they call plays. The crossing route, while difficult to defend, is dangerous for the receiver (Jackson). So is the seam route for the TE (Heap). Unless the throw is perfect, collision is likely. You want to see change, fine the QB everytime he leads a WR out to die. The Harrison hit (Cribs) is going to happen in this game. The offensive player can avoid the hit by running more upright or going down at contact. Instead, he fights for an extra yard and dives forward. This is part of the game and we applaud the player who fights for every yard. Harrison is just holding up his end of the play by trying to prevent the first down and knock the ball out. Nothing wrong with that. Did Harrison pop him in the earhole? Yes. Was there anything else for him to hit? Given the way the run developed and Cribs fighting for the extra yardage, no.

True dirty hits should be fined. The Heap hit looked dirty to me because he launched himself into Heap. Violent collisions are a part of the game and the offense bears an equal amount of responsibilty when an injury occurs.

You bring up some very good points. What I was trying to say earlier is that a QB can throw the ball at a certain area so that the receiver had to jump to get the ball making any hit on him while he is airborne a defenseless hit. Teams will find ways to exploit this rule.

I saw the play. Jackson jumped in the air to get the ball and while he was airborne he was hit for a tackle. Once you go airborne by your own will you are not defenseless anymore. You are fair game for the defender to tackle you. What is the defender supposed to do when you are airborne? Tackle your legs while you are in the air?

[Outlawdino]

The NFL is not dying nor will it be the next sport to suffer economically. The national economy has seen better days and people are not "over spending" to enjoy sporting events as they may have in the past. The NFL remains the most popular pro sports and makes a ton of money. MLB, NBA, NHL will see far worse days before the NFL. It has already started, check the numbers. Don't get hyped up in any changes the NFL makes...the are more progressive than any other sport.

[Sunde91]

It's become a pussy sport played by self-serving, soft thugs with zero fundamentals. Go to an NFL training camp; they do ZERO tackling live or drills.

Penalties..

Incidentally flick a face mask - 15 yards game potentially ruined for your team
Touch a QB at all - 15 yards game potentially ruined
Touch the foot of a punter after ke kicks ball and flops to the ground - 15 yards 4th to 1st Down, game most definitely ruined a lot of the time
Tackle a guy too rough - 15 yards game ruined, fined, AND suspension

And it's fuking retarded how many players get injured these days for the stupidest shit imaginable. Guys out 3 games for a tweaked hamstring, guys out entire seasons for a fuking wrist injury..toe injuries, shoulder strains...just unreal.

Rugby = 10x tougher, no pads, no BS penalties, no pusscake injuries.

[EXhoosier10]

What I hate about Goodell is that here is talking about player safety and what not, but the fans demand violence. While with the 18 game season he says the fans demand more games yet he totally forgets about the players.

sounds about right

[BobHarvey]

If you don't start handing out suspensions then you're eventually going to have a leauge filled with back up QB's and other skill positions. Just look at last night's game: Kerry Collins vs. Trent Edwards. Two backup quarterbacks and a crap game.

You can hit hard without going helmet to helmet. Harrison will maim someone or himself. It's gotten way out of control.

You can have the NFL in its current form if you stop the helmet to helmet OR you can watch weekly junior varsity games. You can't have them both.

[PocketChange]

The extra amount is for the hurt he put on himself.

[louis.ana]

Maybe they should take off the helmets and pads and play like rugby players.
Maybe the helmet and pads play a role in these injuries, or give the players a false sense of safety..
where they launch at each other head first like a missile, still a cheap move

[BetWeather]

Even worse....

Zebras calls sucked this week... but they are not friggin reviewable ?

Coaches should be able red flag any call a zebra makes... including
holding, but especially pass interference... the call they always blow.

- Angry Chiefs Fan

[Cicima6709]

Has James Harrison been fined yet?

[Seattle Slew]

Yes, $75,000. He is a dirty player. That tackle on Vince Young in Week 2 should have led to a suspension. He suplexed him.

Has James Harrison been fined yet?

[Seattle Slew]

National TV ratings for Monday night.

MNF: 7.2
Yankees-Rangers 6.5

Imagine the spread if the game was competitive. NFL is destroying everything in its path with Fantasy and gambling. Unbeatable combination.

If you don't start handing out suspensions then you're eventually going to have a leauge filled with back up QB's and other skill positions. Just look at last night's game: Kerry Collins vs. Trent Edwards. Two backup quarterbacks and a crap game.

You can hit hard without going helmet to helmet. Harrison will maim someone or himself. It's gotten way out of control.

You can have the NFL in its current form if you stop the helmet to helmet OR you can watch weekly junior varsity games. You can't have them both.

[Scorpion]

It's become a pussy sport played by self-serving, soft thugs with zero fundamentals. Go to an NFL training camp; they do ZERO tackling live or drills.

Penalties..

Incidentally flick a face mask - 15 yards game potentially ruined for your team
Touch a QB at all - 15 yards game potentially ruined
Touch the foot of a punter after ke kicks ball and flops to the ground - 15 yards 4th to 1st Down, game most definitely ruined a lot of the time
Tackle a guy too rough - 15 yards game ruined, fined, AND suspension

And it's fuking retarded how many players get injured these days for the stupidest shit imaginable. Guys out 3 games for a tweaked hamstring, guys out entire seasons for a fuking wrist injury..toe injuries, shoulder strains...just unreal.

Rugby = 10x tougher, no pads, no BS penalties, no pusscake injuries.

sharp post sir

[delldog]

ESPN did it. They only showed it nonstop every twenty 20 minutes with commentary.

[kcDdegenerate]

Call me crazy,but I love the NFL because of the gambling and the beauty of the game as a whole..Nothing wrong with what they are trying to do....I personally dont get off on seeing guys getting jacked up...This will also protect the defensive players as well...This will not compromise the game at all..If you believe it does,you are just wrong..