New england patriots

OTL · 10-04-10, 01:12 PM

Miami will take to the air a lot in this game, which the Pats have no way to stop. The Dolphins offense really came into its own last game despite the loss. Expect a well-balanced attack by the Fins, and lots of pressure on Brady. The Pats couldn't even contain the pathetic Bills last week, their secondary is beyond suspect at this point. It's just no good at all.

southpaw74 · 10-04-10, 01:14 PM

Miami for me. Brady doesnt do well in Miami and the pats are not what they used to be

fightingwarrior · 10-04-10, 01:16 PM

I'M not here to argue

patriots pickem or +points is the play.

miami qb will throw 1 maybe 2 ints and it will be close but miami dolphins will blow it in the 4th quarter.

patriots had a bad performce against the bills and look to be tested.

i know the majority is on miami and thinks this is there game.

the facts are it is a pickem game only becuase miami is at home.if it was neutral field or patriots at home miami would have +3.

new england has a edge.

good gambling boys.

kcDdegenerate · 10-04-10, 01:19 PM

Miami for me...12-3 last 3 sundays

terrortwylight · 10-04-10, 01:31 PM

new england D has left something to be desired but i think brady gets it done here. lots of points, but hard to argue with the pats on this one.

OTL · 10-04-10, 01:32 PM

The majority are on the Pats. 60/40 consensus.

kurt_06518 · 10-04-10, 01:33 PM

enough of these empty blanketed statements, why would henne throw 2 picks, what defensive schemes will the pats present that should trip him up. then you add the majority is on miami, the majority is on the pats, so to sum up, that post was not successful and i would bet against that post all day

sportsguy04 · 10-04-10, 01:34 PM

2 rules I have in betting. Never bet against Peyton manning on a Monday night game or Tom Brady in a Monday night game.

L2Gunz · 10-04-10, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by sportsguy04

2 rules I have in betting. Never bet against Peyton manning on a Monday night game or Tom Brady in a Monday night game.

sportsguy04 · 10-04-10, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by kurt_06518

enough of these empty blanketed statements, why would henne throw 2 picks, what defensive schemes will the pats present that should trip him up. then you add the majority is on miami, the majority is on the pats, so to sum up, that post was not successful and i would bet against that post all day

I see your back in threads starting arguments . How did your Clemson boys do vs Miami?

BIGDAY · 10-04-10, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by sportsguy04

2 rules I have in betting. Never bet against Peyton manning on a Monday night game or Tom Brady in a Monday night game.

Agreed, Pats come up with a big win tonight!

Power Play · 10-04-10, 01:37 PM

Miami has home field on a monday night. Also Chad Henne is a decent QB that is underrated. However they're just a 8-8 type of team this year because of their modest talent imo. They outplayed Buffalo in a game that that is not as close as the final score indicated. They should have lost to the more talented Minnesota but Vikings made too many mistakes. The Jets last week is also just too much for them from a talent perspective. Miami at this point is just a average team offensively and defensively imo. The Patriots are a superior team offensively but a inferior one defensively. All this indicate that value is still with Dolphins. However to beat the Pats you need either a superior pass rush or a superior secondary. It is rare for Tom Brady to lose in a shootout unless it is to a QB in his class (Peyton, Brees, or Rodgers). Don't see Miami stopping the Pats and unless Henne is even better than I thought can't see him outlasting Brady.

L2Gunz · 10-04-10, 01:37 PM

fightingwarrior · 10-04-10, 01:39 PM

this is my top play for today.the patriots is the right side.

if miami happens to win ill feel happy that i picked new england it is the right side.

playing the right side =money long term.

kurt_06518 · 10-04-10, 01:40 PM

not good, but i will gladly post my results from saturday whcih will show me as 9-1, 9-2 including clemson game

ayuntalo · 10-04-10, 01:41 PM

what line did you guys get?
i think pats are -1 @ 110 and -115 on the ML on betjamaica and the greek..
i also think that line is moving a bit towards pats even in other books

castle · 10-04-10, 01:42 PM

Strong offensive plays makes up for the weaker defense. Pats take it PK.

Originally posted by ayuntalo

what line did you guys get? i think pats are -1 @ 110 and -115 on the ML on BetJamaica and the greek.. i also think that line is moving a bit towards pats even in other books

It was Pats -1 until about 7PM last night. Waited till this morning and got it PK. Over @ 48.

sportsguy04 · 10-04-10, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by kurt_06518

not good, but i will gladly post my results from saturday whcih will show me as 9-1, 9-2 including clemson game

God you are the gambling god! All hail Kurt! Posts your plays before the ganes start so we can all tail and make millions each Saturday!

kurt_06518 · 10-04-10, 01:44 PM

i have nothing to prove to anyone, i dont care who knows my records, i have my opinion on games and i will bet my games and never tail anyone, i made $2,527 last week and $2,985 the week before, thats all i care about, enjoy ur first loss of the week tonight, fins roll

ayuntalo · 10-04-10, 01:47 PM

hey just a silly question guys..
does -1 really matter on a football game??
i mean what are the chances..one team missing a fg or a one team going for 2 pt conversion..
should i still bite patriots even if it ends up -1?

fightingwarrior · 10-04-10, 01:53 PM

the patriots is the play.you just got to wait and see.

thebertshow · 10-04-10, 01:55 PM

I am leaning to miami

ngates815 · 10-04-10, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by ayuntalo

hey just a silly question guys..
does -1 really matter on a football game??
i mean what are the chances..one team missing a fg or a one team going for 2 pt conversion..
should i still bite patriots even if it ends up -1?

Yes because the worse you will do is push.

kurt_06518 · 10-04-10, 01:57 PM

the patriots was the play in 2007

TCC · 10-04-10, 01:57 PM

i think they lost to miami tonight

surffreak · 10-04-10, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by fightingwarrior

I'M not here to argue patriots pickem or +points is the play. miami qb will throw 1 maybe 2 ints and it will be close but miami dolphins will blow it in the 4th quarter. patriots had a bad performce against the bills and look to be tested. i know the majority is on miami and thinks this is there game. the facts are it is a pickem game only becuase miami is at home.if it was neutral field or patriots at home miami would have +3. new england has a edge. good gambling boys.

have you seen pats d? its aweful

get off of the pats bandwagon, it has come to a stop

kurt_06518 · 10-04-10, 02:07 PM

surfreak, for a lot of people they still think this is the same ole pats with the same ole defense. The lesson you will like them to learn wont come free and that class will cost the size of their bet tonight

mgcolby · 10-04-10, 02:08 PM

Marshall will make plays especially against the young NE secondary. But who else is going to make plays in the passing game? Bess, Fasano?

And given that Dolphins couldn't contain the only two weapons the Jets have in the passing game, Edwards and Keller - How do you figure they stop Moss, Welker, Edelman, Tate, Hernandez, Gronkowski and Crumpler? The Dolphins have faced the 32, 24 and 25th ranked passing offenses through the first 3 weeks. If Buffalo had a competent QB they would have won by 10+ in week 1. Minny's offense has been terrible and once again the Jets put up 31 points on them.

One area that has hurt NE and their defense is their Kick coverage. They allowed Spiller to return a TD, and have allowed several long kick returns. And the rookie punter has made some mistakes, such as out kicking his coverage which resulted in big returns as well as a shanked punt last week that led to a cheap Bills FG. Beyond that the offense coughed the ball up at its own 40 which led to a Bills TD. So don't just look at the scoreboard and see 30 points and think wow the Pats d gave up 30 to the Bills. All three phases of the game contributed to that 30 points. When the Bills had to drive more than 40 yards to score the Pats allowed 13 points. They had two Red Zone turnovers, allowed 1 FG and 1 TD in 4 RZ possesions.

Given NE's road woes lately and Brady's record in Miami I am hesitant to pick the Pats. But several things have changed, the Dolphins don't have a good pass rush and a lot of Brady's troubles came at the hands of Jason Taylor (see week 2). Brady should stay upright all game, I will be surprised if he is sacked.

I could keep going but this post is long enough.

surffreak · 10-04-10, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by kurt_06518

surfreak, for a lot of people they still think this is the same ole pats with the same ole defense. The lesson you will like them to learn wont come free and that class will cost the size of their bet tonight

Brady is just 3-5 against the spread at the Dolphins.

Those 3 victorys
2003: miami missed 2 field goals that would of let them win.

2005: miami was aweful and the pats only won by a td.

2007: Pats were undefeated this season while miami was 1-15

Brady does not play well in miami. The pats are not the same team, miami is a good squad. I see miami winning

Pats have only covered at miami when the dolphins were terrible or when the pats were special. The pats are not great. and The dolphins do not stink. Plus if you look over the years. The score has always been close.

Miami +1
The only thing i dislike is mnf against tom brady, but still dont see it happening

kp126 · 10-04-10, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by surffreak

Brady is just 3-5 against the spread at the Dolphins.

Those 3 victorys
2003: miami missed 2 field goals that would of let them win.

2005: miami was aweful and the pats only won by a td.

2007: Pats were undefeated this season while miami was 1-15

Brady does not play well in miami. The pats are not the same team, miami is a good squad. I see miami winning

Pats have only covered at miami when the dolphins were terrible or when the pats were special. The pats are not great. and The dolphins do not stink. Plus if you look over the years. The score has always been close.

Miami +1
The only thing i dislike is mnf against tom brady, but still dont see it happening

was the spread ever PK or -1?