Why are they +6 1/2 at Bodog? That seems significantly out of line. Is their a legitimate reason for this?
Unclear. 49ers +5 at virtually all A+ books
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AristoclesSBR MVP
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#1Unclear. 49ers +5 at virtually all A+ booksTags: None -
Saluki09SBR MVP
- 12-30-08
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#2they're currently +6 at bodogComment -
falconticketSBR MVP
- 09-05-10
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#4Public pounding Saints, bodog is big time public house. Trying to minimize risk, all I can figureComment -
HammewSBR MVP
- 10-27-09
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#6I am looking at my bodog account and they are only at +6.Comment -
DeluxeLinerSBR MVP
- 01-29-08
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#7I think they kindly show the door to the kind of people that would be fading the defending superbowl champsComment -
DeluxeLinerSBR MVP
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#8I see +6.5 (-115)Comment -
AristoclesSBR MVP
- 08-29-10
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#10Live odds, at the above link clearly states "6 1/2" (space added). I have no account at Bodog, it might be in error but it made me curious.Comment -
HammewSBR MVP
- 10-27-09
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#118:35p
WEEK 2 (Bodog Live Betting Available)
237
New Orleans Saints
-6
-255
44
(-105)o
(-115)u
238
San Francisco 49ers
+6
+215
Game can be seen on ESPN
Sunday, September 26, 2010 (Times shown in Eastern Daylight Time)Comment -
AristoclesSBR MVP
- 08-29-10
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#12
In < 2 min. you put up three posts try stopping and reading one and it will be clear.Comment -
HammewSBR MVP
- 10-27-09
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#13Live odds, at the above link clearly states "6 1/2" (space added). I have no account at Bodog, it might be in error but it made me curious.Comment -
yismanSBR Aristocracy
- 09-01-08
- 75682
#14Bodog and SIA are typically square books.
They have SF at +6.5 (-115) right now. Bodog often does it like this.
Chad Millman mentions this recently:
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Over the past decade, sharps have moved most of their money to highly respected offshore books like Pinnacle or The Greek or CRIS. It's just a lot easier than running around Vegas and battling traffic to get the best of the local lines.
The same is true for squares, too. Instead of corner bookies, they're logging in, usually at places like Bodog and sportsbook.com, to get down their action. For them, a trip to Vegas is like going to Disney World. It's made sports betting immensely more popular the past 10 years. It's also dramatically changed line postings and moves.
Take Bodog, for example. Richard Gardner, the bookmaker there for the past eight years, knows that his shop is largely retail, meaning most of his business comes from nickel-and-dime amateurs. "We'll get 90 percent of our action within 24 hours before a game," he says. "Our bettors don't like to have their money tied up for a long time. They want to know how they did in the noon games before making a bet on the 3:30 games." The limit of $3,000 that Bodog takes on college games, as opposed to $10K or higher at some of the sites catering to wiseguy money, shows that Bodog knows where its cake is baked. But understanding your clientele has its advantages, and that's where the impact on line moves comes in.
When I called Richard to go over some of the bigger plays for this week's college football games, he twice pointed out that Bodog's lines were off by a point or more from what the majority of books -- whether on the mainland or not -- were showing. The prime example was USC, which I've detailed below. That leaves Bodog vulnerable to sharps who might see some value, but he says, "We know we'll get a lot of SC money, so it's worth the risk for us."[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]Comment -
AristoclesSBR MVP
- 08-29-10
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#15If it is correct- IF- then it seems really odd to me. (A point-and-a-half spread on a ~5 point spread?)
Perhaps the "big public house" explains it. . . do not knowComment -
yismanSBR Aristocracy
- 09-01-08
- 75682
#161.5 is a little excessive, but you can very often get an extra point on Bodog on underdogs.
Last night they had an extra point and a half on the Giants.
giants +5.5 (-110): +4 (-110)
then:
Buffalo Bills +14 (-115): +12.5 (-110)
Saturday:
Arizona -1 (-110): -2.5 (-110)
Those were the ones I noticed this week.
If you have an account at Bodog and an A+ book, there are a lot of opportunities for middles, and Bodog is aware of this.[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]Comment -
AristoclesSBR MVP
- 08-29-10
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#17yisman:
Thank you. I am clear, now.
I suppose I am a bit new.
As of this post, according to "live odds" link, Legends has it at +4 1/2 and Bodog is at 6 1/2.Comment -
Mike650iSBR Hustler
- 09-20-10
- 78
#19Lol, guys you are both right.
Bodog deals a double line. Since they are such a public book and often shade the lines by a half point/point against favorites, this makes great betting opportunity on dogs that are almost certainly +EV.
If you bet a lot of dogs, then Bodog will shade the line against you. So if they're dealing the public +6.5, they'll deal sharps +6. They know the public will take the -6.5 no matter what, but this way Bodog basically gives itself a free half point.
So the guy who saw +6 likely was getting the sharp line. The guy getting +6.5 either did not bet there much (so he's not put on the sharp line yet) or he's a square.
Getting the sharp line isn't a huge deal. Even Bodog's sharp line is still good compared to most books.
If you're dealt the sharp line and want to see the square/public line in real time, the best way to do so is to view the website on a browser where you've never logged onto bodog.com (or at least clear your cookies).
Right now, I'm seeing sharp +6 (-105) +210 ML, square +6 (-105) +215 ML. HOWEVER, I did see +6.5 (-115) on the square line about 10 min ago.Comment -
kilnRestricted User
- 08-29-10
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#20BODOG stands for
Bet
On
DOGs
Their entire empire is built on giving underdogs an extra point or so. Given how many wheelbarrows BODOG has to use to cart around their enormous piles of money, I'd say it's reasonable to assume the public hasn't done that well taking these "gifts."
It seems every week this has to be explained to somebody else. It also seems to me that if you don't understand the foundational premise of your book you should find a different one.Comment -
HammewSBR MVP
- 10-27-09
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#21Lol, guys you are both right.
Bodog deals a double line. Since they are such a public book and often shade the lines by a half point/point against favorites, this makes great betting opportunity on dogs that are almost certainly +EV.
If you bet a lot of dogs, then Bodog will shade the line against you. So if they're dealing the public +6.5, they'll deal sharps +6. They know the public will take the -6.5 no matter what, but this way Bodog basically gives itself a free half point.
So the guy who saw +6 likely was getting the sharp line. The guy getting +6.5 either did not bet there much (so he's not put on the sharp line yet) or he's a square.
Getting the sharp line isn't a huge deal. Even Bodog's sharp line is still good compared to most books.
If you're dealt the sharp line and want to see the square/public line in real time, the best way to do so is to view the website on a browser where you've never logged onto bodog.com (or at least clear your cookies).
Right now, I'm seeing sharp +6 (-105) +210 ML, square +6 (-105) +215 ML. HOWEVER, I did see +6.5 (-115) on the square line about 10 min ago.Comment -
AristoclesSBR MVP
- 08-29-10
- 1015
#22BODOG stands for
Bet
On
DOGs
Their entire empire is built on giving underdogs an extra point or so. Given how many wheelbarrows BODOG has to use to cart around their enormous piles of money, I'd say it's reasonable to assume the public hasn't done that well taking these "gifts."
It seems every week this has to be explained to somebody else. It also seems to me that if you don't understand the foundational premise of your book you should find a different one.
2) It seemed strange, thus my query. I am rather new. The question was clearly answered earlier.
3) If you felt compelled to type a solitary word in this thread I am baffled by the feeling. Clearly this is an emotive thing.
4) Unspoken/untyped thoughts are acceptable.
5) Nothing has to be explained to anyone. I took the board to be somewhat informal, with a high noise to signal frequency.
6) I have kind of assumed/read that this is the zeitgeist of Bodog. However, it seemed 1 1/2- 2 points was extreme on a ~5 line. Guess not.
7) Put me on ignore if it makes it easier. I could not give two shits whether you reply to a thread I post nor do I envision that being a lonely point from which to view.Comment -
falconticketSBR MVP
- 09-05-10
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#231) They are not MY book.
2) It seemed strange, thus my query. I am rather new. The question was clearly answered earlier.
3) If you felt compelled to type a solitary word in this thread I am baffled by the feeling. Clearly this is an emotive thing.
4) Unspoken/untyped thoughts are acceptable.
5) Nothing has to be explained to anyone. I took the board to be somewhat informal, with a high noise to signal frequency.
6) I have kind of assumed/read that this is the zeitgeist of Bodog. However, it seemed 1 1/2- 2 points was extreme on a ~5 line. Guess not.
7) Put me on ignore if it makes it easier. I could not give two shits whether you reply to a thread I post nor do I envision that being a lonely point from which to view.
What the hell is emotive, and zeitgeist forgot my damn pocket dictionary.Comment -
JakesteenSBR Wise Guy
- 04-22-10
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#24There is a +1 point difference there. Good book for betting dogs. I have found that to be common with the lines at BODOG.Comment -
falconticketSBR MVP
- 09-05-10
- 3414
#25well I'm very emotive with nawlins knoken some some nuts off sum sanfransissy fukkers. And Brandon lang has my back on that little play. I may not talk proper , but I know me some damn foolsball.Comment -
terpkegSBR MVP
- 10-26-09
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#26
Anyway, Bodog does deal dual lines plus they are a square book. You probably got the answer to your question in between all the internet geeks chiming in.
If you are new to gambling and betting offshore, I would suggest using multiple sportsbooks if you have the funds available. You will be able to line shop and hopefully get hooked up with several bonuses.
BOL.
I don't proclaim to be any gambling genius or profitable player. But, I have been playing offshore for about 10 years. So if you have any questions feel free to PM me.Comment
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