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  • Aristocles
    SBR MVP
    • 08-29-10
    • 1015

    #1
    Unclear. 49ers +5 at virtually all A+ books
    Why are they +6 1/2 at Bodog? That seems significantly out of line. Is their a legitimate reason for this?
  • Saluki09
    SBR MVP
    • 12-30-08
    • 1003

    #2
    they're currently +6 at bodog
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    • Broken-Ear Glen
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-31-10
      • 595

      #3
      Originally posted by Saluki09
      they're currently +6 at bodog
      no they're not. +6.5 at bodog
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      • falconticket
        SBR MVP
        • 09-05-10
        • 3414

        #4
        Public pounding Saints, bodog is big time public house. Trying to minimize risk, all I can figure
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        • Aristocles
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          • 08-29-10
          • 1015

          #5
          Originally posted by Saluki09
          they're currently +6 at bodog
          Not on my monitor, they are not.
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          • Hammew
            SBR MVP
            • 10-27-09
            • 2882

            #6
            I am looking at my bodog account and they are only at +6.
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            • DeluxeLiner
              SBR MVP
              • 01-29-08
              • 4132

              #7
              I think they kindly show the door to the kind of people that would be fading the defending superbowl champs
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              • DeluxeLiner
                SBR MVP
                • 01-29-08
                • 4132

                #8
                I see +6.5 (-115)
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                • Hammew
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-27-09
                  • 2882

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Aristocles
                  Not on my monitor, they are not.

                  Either you are not on bodogs webpage and are looking at a site that tells you bodogs lines or you are special because they are +6 on bodog.com
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                  • Aristocles
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-29-10
                    • 1015

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hammew
                    I am looking at my bodog account and they are only at +6.
                    Live odds, at the above link clearly states "6 1/2" (space added). I have no account at Bodog, it might be in error but it made me curious.
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                    • Hammew
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-27-09
                      • 2882

                      #11
                      8:35p
                      WEEK 2 (Bodog Live Betting Available)




                      237
                      New Orleans Saints

                      -6

                      -255

                      44
                      (-105)o
                      (-115)u



                      238
                      San Francisco 49ers

                      +6

                      +215



                      Game can be seen on ESPN

                      Sunday, September 26, 2010 (Times shown in Eastern Daylight Time)
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                      • Aristocles
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-29-10
                        • 1015

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hammew
                        Either you are not on bodogs webpage and are looking at a site that tells you bodogs lines or you are special because they are +6 on bodog.com
                        Try reading my last post, if such an act be possible.

                        In < 2 min. you put up three posts try stopping and reading one and it will be clear.
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                        • Hammew
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-27-09
                          • 2882

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Aristocles
                          Live odds, at the above link clearly states "6 1/2" (space added). I have no account at Bodog, it might be in error but it made me curious.
                          Must be an error or they haven't changed it yet at bodog.com. I even signed out of my account to make sure. I hope it does go 6.5 though.
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                          • yisman
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-01-08
                            • 75682

                            #14
                            Bodog and SIA are typically square books.

                            They have SF at +6.5 (-115) right now. Bodog often does it like this.

                            Chad Millman mentions this recently:

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                            Over the past decade, sharps have moved most of their money to highly respected offshore books like Pinnacle or The Greek or CRIS. It's just a lot easier than running around Vegas and battling traffic to get the best of the local lines.
                            The same is true for squares, too. Instead of corner bookies, they're logging in, usually at places like Bodog and sportsbook.com, to get down their action. For them, a trip to Vegas is like going to Disney World. It's made sports betting immensely more popular the past 10 years. It's also dramatically changed line postings and moves.
                            Take Bodog, for example. Richard Gardner, the bookmaker there for the past eight years, knows that his shop is largely retail, meaning most of his business comes from nickel-and-dime amateurs. "We'll get 90 percent of our action within 24 hours before a game," he says. "Our bettors don't like to have their money tied up for a long time. They want to know how they did in the noon games before making a bet on the 3:30 games." The limit of $3,000 that Bodog takes on college games, as opposed to $10K or higher at some of the sites catering to wiseguy money, shows that Bodog knows where its cake is baked. But understanding your clientele has its advantages, and that's where the impact on line moves comes in.
                            When I called Richard to go over some of the bigger plays for this week's college football games, he twice pointed out that Bodog's lines were off by a point or more from what the majority of books -- whether on the mainland or not -- were showing. The prime example was USC, which I've detailed below. That leaves Bodog vulnerable to sharps who might see some value, but he says, "We know we'll get a lot of SC money, so it's worth the risk for us."
                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                            [/quote]

                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                            • Aristocles
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-29-10
                              • 1015

                              #15
                              If it is correct- IF- then it seems really odd to me. (A point-and-a-half spread on a ~5 point spread?)

                              Perhaps the "big public house" explains it. . . do not know
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                              • yisman
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 09-01-08
                                • 75682

                                #16
                                1.5 is a little excessive, but you can very often get an extra point on Bodog on underdogs.

                                Last night they had an extra point and a half on the Giants.

                                giants +5.5 (-110): +4 (-110)

                                then:

                                Buffalo Bills +14 (-115): +12.5 (-110)

                                Saturday:


                                Arizona -1 (-110): -2.5 (-110)


                                Those were the ones I noticed this week.

                                If you have an account at Bodog and an A+ book, there are a lot of opportunities for middles, and Bodog is aware of this.
                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                [/quote]

                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                • Aristocles
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-29-10
                                  • 1015

                                  #17
                                  yisman:

                                  Thank you. I am clear, now.

                                  I suppose I am a bit new.

                                  As of this post, according to "live odds" link, Legends has it at +4 1/2 and Bodog is at 6 1/2.
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                                  • Saluki09
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-30-08
                                    • 1003

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by broken-ear glen
                                    no they're not. +6.5 at bodog
                                    official bodog line 4:15pm cts.....niners +6 (-105)
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                                    • Mike650i
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 09-20-10
                                      • 78

                                      #19
                                      Lol, guys you are both right.

                                      Bodog deals a double line. Since they are such a public book and often shade the lines by a half point/point against favorites, this makes great betting opportunity on dogs that are almost certainly +EV.


                                      If you bet a lot of dogs, then Bodog will shade the line against you. So if they're dealing the public +6.5, they'll deal sharps +6. They know the public will take the -6.5 no matter what, but this way Bodog basically gives itself a free half point.

                                      So the guy who saw +6 likely was getting the sharp line. The guy getting +6.5 either did not bet there much (so he's not put on the sharp line yet) or he's a square.

                                      Getting the sharp line isn't a huge deal. Even Bodog's sharp line is still good compared to most books.

                                      If you're dealt the sharp line and want to see the square/public line in real time, the best way to do so is to view the website on a browser where you've never logged onto bodog.com (or at least clear your cookies).

                                      Right now, I'm seeing sharp +6 (-105) +210 ML, square +6 (-105) +215 ML. HOWEVER, I did see +6.5 (-115) on the square line about 10 min ago.
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                                      • kiln
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 08-29-10
                                        • 830

                                        #20
                                        BODOG stands for

                                        Bet
                                        On
                                        DOGs

                                        Their entire empire is built on giving underdogs an extra point or so. Given how many wheelbarrows BODOG has to use to cart around their enormous piles of money, I'd say it's reasonable to assume the public hasn't done that well taking these "gifts."

                                        It seems every week this has to be explained to somebody else. It also seems to me that if you don't understand the foundational premise of your book you should find a different one.
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                                        • Hammew
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-27-09
                                          • 2882

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Mike650i
                                          Lol, guys you are both right.

                                          Bodog deals a double line. Since they are such a public book and often shade the lines by a half point/point against favorites, this makes great betting opportunity on dogs that are almost certainly +EV.


                                          If you bet a lot of dogs, then Bodog will shade the line against you. So if they're dealing the public +6.5, they'll deal sharps +6. They know the public will take the -6.5 no matter what, but this way Bodog basically gives itself a free half point.

                                          So the guy who saw +6 likely was getting the sharp line. The guy getting +6.5 either did not bet there much (so he's not put on the sharp line yet) or he's a square.

                                          Getting the sharp line isn't a huge deal. Even Bodog's sharp line is still good compared to most books.

                                          If you're dealt the sharp line and want to see the square/public line in real time, the best way to do so is to view the website on a browser where you've never logged onto bodog.com (or at least clear your cookies).

                                          Right now, I'm seeing sharp +6 (-105) +210 ML, square +6 (-105) +215 ML. HOWEVER, I did see +6.5 (-115) on the square line about 10 min ago.
                                          Well I have +6 at bodog, I guess I can classify myself as a sharp.
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                                          • Aristocles
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-29-10
                                            • 1015

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by kiln
                                            BODOG stands for

                                            Bet
                                            On
                                            DOGs

                                            Their entire empire is built on giving underdogs an extra point or so. Given how many wheelbarrows BODOG has to use to cart around their enormous piles of money, I'd say it's reasonable to assume the public hasn't done that well taking these "gifts."

                                            It seems every week this has to be explained to somebody else. It also seems to me that if you don't understand the foundational premise of your book you should find a different one.
                                            1) They are not MY book.
                                            2) It seemed strange, thus my query. I am rather new. The question was clearly answered earlier.
                                            3) If you felt compelled to type a solitary word in this thread I am baffled by the feeling. Clearly this is an emotive thing.
                                            4) Unspoken/untyped thoughts are acceptable.
                                            5) Nothing has to be explained to anyone. I took the board to be somewhat informal, with a high noise to signal frequency.
                                            6) I have kind of assumed/read that this is the zeitgeist of Bodog. However, it seemed 1 1/2- 2 points was extreme on a ~5 line. Guess not.
                                            7) Put me on ignore if it makes it easier. I could not give two shits whether you reply to a thread I post nor do I envision that being a lonely point from which to view.
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                                            • falconticket
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-05-10
                                              • 3414

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Aristocles
                                              1) They are not MY book.
                                              2) It seemed strange, thus my query. I am rather new. The question was clearly answered earlier.
                                              3) If you felt compelled to type a solitary word in this thread I am baffled by the feeling. Clearly this is an emotive thing.
                                              4) Unspoken/untyped thoughts are acceptable.
                                              5) Nothing has to be explained to anyone. I took the board to be somewhat informal, with a high noise to signal frequency.
                                              6) I have kind of assumed/read that this is the zeitgeist of Bodog. However, it seemed 1 1/2- 2 points was extreme on a ~5 line. Guess not.
                                              7) Put me on ignore if it makes it easier. I could not give two shits whether you reply to a thread I post nor do I envision that being a lonely point from which to view.

                                              What the hell is emotive, and zeitgeist forgot my damn pocket dictionary.
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                                              • Jakesteen
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 04-22-10
                                                • 653

                                                #24
                                                There is a +1 point difference there. Good book for betting dogs. I have found that to be common with the lines at BODOG.
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                                                • falconticket
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-05-10
                                                  • 3414

                                                  #25
                                                  well I'm very emotive with nawlins knoken some some nuts off sum sanfransissy fukkers. And Brandon lang has my back on that little play. I may not talk proper , but I know me some damn foolsball.
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                                                  • terpkeg
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-26-09
                                                    • 2364

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Aristocles
                                                    Why are they +6 1/2 at Bodog? That seems significantly out of line. Is their a legitimate reason for this?
                                                    Don't let all these a$$bags get you worked up. I'm sure they wouldnt have a peep to say to your face if you asked this question in a personable situation.

                                                    Anyway, Bodog does deal dual lines plus they are a square book. You probably got the answer to your question in between all the internet geeks chiming in.

                                                    If you are new to gambling and betting offshore, I would suggest using multiple sportsbooks if you have the funds available. You will be able to line shop and hopefully get hooked up with several bonuses.

                                                    BOL.

                                                    I don't proclaim to be any gambling genius or profitable player. But, I have been playing offshore for about 10 years. So if you have any questions feel free to PM me.
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