Kroyrunner's Season Long NFL Thread (55-30-1 ATS in 2009)

**kroyrunner89** · 10-03-10, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by EXhoosier10

Wow. After 1 bad week, after years of consistently hitting 90% ATS, you say you're never betting spreads again? I smell a whole lot of bull

. Give it a break SSK, you aren't going to beat kroy. kroy, not the worst of weeks. Nothing you can't come back from at least. Keep up the hard work and it'll pay off

It was a winning week so I certainly didn't set myself back... I'm going to lay off of tomorrow and just pack in the winning week, no need to force something if I don't feel strongly enough about it. I need to see Miami face one more above average passing team before I make a judgment about their secondary. Miami -1 was my lean for all curious, good luck to anyone who bets tomorrow night and we'll try to make it two winning weeks in a row next week!

**Mimic** · 10-03-10, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by ssk13809

my forte is MLs and not ATS where some stupid sh*t can make you lose.

If you ever bet on a dog, you would know spreads HELP you with stupid sh%t that may happen... but since u dont you may want to stick with moneylines.. Large spreads against highly overrated teams is where the money is. (panthers +14 vs saints was pretty easy imo). Your goal is to beat vegas, not the packers not the bears.. vegas.. you cant play vegas betting ML's, anything can happen in the NFL. You have to keep ur mind open and bet on solid plays.. betting on the top 4 favorites that you think will cover wont get you anywhere..

GL to you this season brotha.. and thanks for motivating me to make my first post!

**simonk83** · 10-03-10, 11:36 PM

Well done Kroy, thanks for the winners.

Back luck ssk

**vle909** · 10-04-10, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by ssk13809

90%? No I said 70%. And years? More like 50 games through a couple of years. And that 70% included some MLs anyways (though I didn't say that before).

Besides, I've realized that my forte is MLs and not ATS where some stupid sh*t can make you lose. And I've always had a lot of success betting MLs all my life. Because winning is really what football and MLs are all about, and what my analysis rests upon.

rofl you're bad dude..just give it up already..u haven't done anything but make excuses every weeks. LOOOOOOOLOOOOLLLLLLL

**peepshow9** · 10-04-10, 12:40 AM

Thanks Kroy for the Pitt under play I tailed that and parlayed it with Miami ML, I bet 215.58 to win 607.54, so now the question is do I hedge my bet and put some on NE, and if so how much do I dump on NE, I have never hedged a wager so If anyone can help me out it would be appreciated

Thanks again Kroy!

**Dark Horse** · 10-04-10, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by ssk13809

FML

1. I'm never betting ATS (or Totals) again.
2. At least I hit my 3 Team ML Parlay (barely with GB, NO, and ATL)
3. For those rookies out there, don't waste your time betting ATS and Totals. You'll lose money.
MLs is your best bet to make money in the NFL. I've learned my lesson.
4. I'll still beat Kroy in this contest and in fact will be leading at the end of even this week as bad as its been.

Almost as good as Crazylou's tennis stuff back in the days. So there is still hope. If this betting thing doesn't work out. Just ask Lou.

**EXhoosier10** · 10-04-10, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by kroyrunner89

It was a winning week so I certainly didn't set myself back... I'm going to lay off of tomorrow and just pack in the winning week, no need to force something if I don't feel strongly enough about it. I need to see Miami face one more above average passing team before I make a judgment about their secondary. Miami -1 was my lean for all curious, good luck to anyone who bets tomorrow night and we'll try to make it two winning weeks in a row next week!

My fault. Not sure why I was thinking you went 1-2 this week.

**tonyp0387** · 10-04-10, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by peepshow9

Thanks Kroy for the Pitt under play I tailed that and parlayed it with Miami ML, I bet 215.58 to win 607.54, so now the question is do I hedge my bet and put some on NE, and if so how much do I dump on NE, I have never hedged a wager so If anyone can help me out it would be appreciated

Thanks again Kroy!

If you play a lot of parlays then no because if you make it a habit you can't win in the long run. If it was just for fun then go ahead and buy back your original bet and your free rollin. I personally never hedge anything unless its some crazy pay out like 20 to 1 or something. GL

**cowboyfan08** · 10-04-10, 10:15 AM

Kroy,should have been 3-0 i thought pitt had won.i wasnt able to watch early games.seen how u got screwed later,thats football been f..ked like that before.u know how it works,u just hope ur on other side of f..king this time u wasnt..bol next week!!!!

**neyvit** · 10-04-10, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by ssk13809

90%? No I said 70%. And years? More like 50 games through a couple of years. And that 70% included some MLs anyways (though I didn't say that before).

Besides, I've realized that my forte is MLs and not ATS where some stupid sh*t can make you lose. And I've always had a lot of success betting MLs all my life. Because winning is really what football and MLs are all about, and what my analysis rests upon.

The saddest part about SSK's posts is that there are dozens of people out there who are actually listening to his advice. Luckily, I've been around sports betting long enough (and losing enough) to know when someone is BSing. But unfortunately, there are plenty of people actively employing the advice that this guy gives.

I know there have already been dozens of posts like mine about this guy, but it really can't be understated how wrong this guy is on so many levels. It even prompted me to make my first post. Lurkers need to be given fair warning.

Kroy, great picks this week. I'm glad you didn't try to force any bets to make-up for last week. GL next week.

**ssk13809** · 10-04-10, 11:19 AM

To all my friends and fans,

I will be making a new thread soon on SBR (Tomorrow). It will only deal with MLs, my forté. This is the only way to make consistent money in the NFL over the long-run. Because now the goal of each team you bet on and yours is the same, play to win. So now your analysis will directly translate into winning and none of that 'team goes easy on defense because they have a big lead' BS. The team you pick has the same goals as you. Winning.

Expectations? Well if you tail me play for play, you will at least double your bank-roll by the end of the season. But that's a minimum. Triple quadruple is more likely.

Stay tuned.

And yes Kroy I am still going to beat you in this contest we have. So no need to get too happy like I'm quitting. It's hard to win ATS over the long-run, but in the short-run I can make some good runs that will give me the 300 points at the end of the season.

**belvedere86** · 10-04-10, 01:14 PM

you should update your record ssk

**mangina11** · 10-04-10, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Mimic

If you ever bet on a dog, you would know spreads HELP you with stupid sh%t that may happen... but since u dont you may want to stick with moneylines.. Large spreads against highly overrated teams is where the money is. (panthers +14 vs saints was pretty easy imo). Your goal is to beat vegas, not the packers not the bears.. vegas.. you cant play vegas betting ML's, anything can happen in the NFL. You have to keep ur mind open and bet on solid plays.. betting on the top 4 favorites that you think will cover wont get you anywhere..

GL to you this season brotha.. and thanks for motivating me to make my first post!

Good post

**fletch49** · 10-04-10, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Mimic

If you ever bet on a dog, you would know spreads HELP you with stupid sh%t that may happen... but since u dont you may want to stick with moneylines.. Large spreads against highly overrated teams is where the money is. (panthers +14 vs saints was pretty easy imo). Your goal is to beat vegas, not the packers not the bears.. vegas.. you cant play vegas betting ML's, anything can happen in the NFL. You have to keep ur mind open and bet on solid plays.. betting on the top 4 favorites that you think will cover wont get you anywhere..

GL to you this season brotha.. and thanks for motivating me to make my first post!

Well said

Too many players go with their hearts and not with their heads. When a team drops off in performance it takes a long time for the emotional players to catch on. Sometimes several years. They keep believing the great team of 3-4 years ago still exists, when it no longer does.

**ScottLocke** · 10-04-10, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by ssk13809

90%? No I said 70%. And years? More like 50 games through a couple of years. And that 70% included some MLs anyways (though I didn't say that before). Besides, I've realized that my forte is MLs and not ATS where some stupid sh*t can make you lose. And I've always had a lot of success betting MLs all my life. Because winning is really what football and MLs are all about, and what my analysis rests upon.

Your forte is MLs when you've been hitting 70% ATS over years of betting? 70% isn't even attainable in my opinion in the NFL, so either you are running really really good, or have a small sample size, or making that number up..... ORRR, you are the best capper of all time!! Nobody not even the best will be able to attain a 70% ATS record over a decent sample size... Unless maybe you stick to betting 1 game a week, but even then it would be highly unlikely.

**Dan** · 10-04-10, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by ssk13809

To all my friends and fans,

I will be making a new thread soon on SBR (Tomorrow). It will only deal with MLs, my forté. This is the only way to make consistent money in the NFL over the long-run. Because now the goal of each team you bet on and yours is the same, play to win. So now your analysis will directly translate into winning and none of that 'team goes easy on defense because they have a big lead' BS. The team you pick has the same goals as you. Winning.

Expectations? Well if you tail me play for play, you will at least double your bank-roll by the end of the season. But that's a minimum. Triple quadruple is more likely.

Stay tuned.

And yes Kroy I am still going to beat you in this contest we have. So no need to get too happy like I'm quitting. It's hard to win ATS over the long-run, but in the short-run I can make some good runs that will give me the 300 points at the end of the season.

You sure have a lot of excuses. It started out with you saying how awesome you were. Then you had a bad week. You said it's because it's early in the season. Another bad week. Now it's because you're betting ATS. How about you quit making excuses and try to beat Kroy like you promised? You are the one that broke into other people's threads posting BS and challenges. Nut up or go make another account and start over again.

**Dan** · 10-04-10, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by kroyrunner89

It was a winning week so I certainly didn't set myself back... I'm going to lay off of tomorrow and just pack in the winning week, no need to force something if I don't feel strongly enough about it. I need to see Miami face one more above average passing team before I make a judgment about their secondary. Miami -1 was my lean for all curious, good luck to anyone who bets tomorrow night and we'll try to make it two winning weeks in a row next week!

You've got Miami +1 pending in your competition with ssk.

**simonk83** · 10-04-10, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by belvedere86

you should update your record ssk

Meh, it was wrong to start with.

**edge444** · 10-04-10, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by ScottLocke

Your forte is MLs when you've been hitting 70% ATS over years of betting? 70% isn't even attainable in my opinion in the NFL, so either you are running really really good, or have a small sample size, or making that number up..... ORRR, you are the best capper of all time!! Nobody not even the best will be able to attain a 70% ATS record over a decent sample size... Unless maybe you stick to betting 1 game a week, but even then it would be highly unlikely.

What you have to remember is he is talking ML and if you look at some of his plays -8 -7 favs so if he is laying -300 maybe 70% isn't that unrealistic - showing a profit may just be another issue

**ssk13809** · 10-04-10, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Dan

You sure have a lot of excuses. It started out with you saying how awesome you were. Then you had a bad week. You said it's because it's early in the season. Another bad week. Now it's because you're betting ATS. How about you quit making excuses and try to beat Kroy like you promised? You are the one that broke into other people's threads posting BS and challenges. Nut up or go make another account and start over again.

I will beat Kroy. Possibly my lead again at the end of Week 2 just like Week 1.

Originally posted by belvedere86

you should update your record ssk

I'm too lazy. But I will soon.

Originally posted by simonk83

Meh, it was wrong to start with.

Do you want me to send you a list of all the posters I sent my Week 1 picks to? They can confirm my record. Let me know.

**simonk83** · 10-04-10, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by ssk13809

Do you want me to send you a list of all the posters I sent my Week 1 picks to? They can confirm my record. Let me know.

Very reliable I'm sure. How about you put your ACTUAL record in your sig. Let's see, you went 2-3 in the initial contest that was scrapped, and now you're on 2-8 total for this contest. So that'd be a grand total of 4-11. How about you add that to your sig, at least it's true

**vyomguy** · 10-04-10, 03:34 PM

ssk13809...you make me laugh...I went 12-2 in College Football and 3-0 in NFL this weekend. Spreads are for sharp people....not for you. Stick to big chalk MLs.

**Dark Horse** · 10-04-10, 03:52 PM

Don't be too hard on the guy. He's starting his own thread, which will be some of the best comedy. Seen it before with Crazylou, who cracked up the tennis forum. The stage couldn't have been set more perfectly with Kroy having won BTP last season and ssk in 405th place in the BOL contest right now. Out of 409 players.

**simonk83** · 10-04-10, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

ssk in 405th place in the BOL contest right now. Out of 409 players.

Do you have a link to that?

**Dark Horse** · 10-04-10, 04:08 PM

yep.

http://contests.sbrforum.com/nfl-contest-free-1-000-weekly-prize-contest-1646/72150-ssk13809/picks/

**simonk83** · 10-04-10, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

yep.

http://contests.sbrforum.com/nfl-con...sk13809/picks/

Lol, that's hilarious, nice work

**Scully** · 10-04-10, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by ssk13809

To all my friends and fans,

I will be making a new thread soon on SBR (Tomorrow). It will only deal with MLs, my forté. This is the only way to make consistent money in the NFL over the long-run. Because now the goal of each team you bet on and yours is the same, play to win. So now your analysis will directly translate into winning and none of that 'team goes easy on defense because they have a big lead' BS. The team you pick has the same goals as you. Winning.

Expectations? Well if you tail me play for play, you will at least double your bank-roll by the end of the season. But that's a minimum. Triple quadruple is more likely.

Stay tuned.

And yes Kroy I am still going to beat you in this contest we have. So no need to get too happy like I'm quitting. It's hard to win ATS over the long-run, but in the short-run I can make some good runs that will give me the 300 points at the end of the season.

If you weren't such a royal mouthpiece of a prick, maybe a couple of people would consider following you but the way you ramble on about nothing, the chances are slim that even one will tag along in your b.s. footsteps!

**hitman2010** · 10-04-10, 04:29 PM

tonight MIAMI?

**phillybadboy** · 10-04-10, 05:13 PM

where is sp3434, and what is the record for the contest(kroy and sk)?

**kroyrunner89** · 10-04-10, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by peepshow9

Thanks Kroy for the Pitt under play I tailed that and parlayed it with Miami ML, I bet 215.58 to win 607.54, so now the question is do I hedge my bet and put some on NE, and if so how much do I dump on NE, I have never hedged a wager so If anyone can help me out it would be appreciated

Thanks again Kroy!

I typically don't hedge, I wouldn't for only a two team parlay I suppose. Depends how much it would hurt to lose that $215. If you wanna be safe hedge it for just that, then either ya break even or end up $400ish

Originally posted by Dan

You've got Miami +1 pending in your competition with ssk.

Right, when I say it was a "winning week", I mean for the plays I recommended. Not plays I had to force for a contest.

Originally posted by phillybadboy

where is sp3434, and what is the record for the contest(kroy and sk)?

We're doing awful, I'm 3-6 at the moment with Miami pending, SSK is 2-8, hopefully we'll turn it around. As for SP, he apparently has left the forum. There has to have been something going on behind the scenes there, the mods don't just chase people off for no reason, just hard to imagine what it was since he seemed like such a class act

**kanak_attack** · 10-04-10, 05:46 PM

kroy do you know where sp went?

**Subtle Dominance** · 10-04-10, 06:30 PM

Remember when SSK said he has a "Lock" this weekend and that he hits his "Locks" 90% of the time: HAH!

his lock was Atlanta -6.5

What a joke....

**Subtle Dominance** · 10-04-10, 06:31 PM

Remember when SSK said he has a "Lock" this weekend and that he hits his "Locks" 90% of the time: HAH!

his lock was Atlanta -6.5

What a joke....

**phillybadboy** · 10-04-10, 06:35 PM

i was wondering what the lock was

**ssk13809** · 10-04-10, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by simonk83

Very reliable I'm sure. How about you put your ACTUAL record in your sig. Let's see, you went 2-3 in the initial contest that was scrapped, and now you're on 2-8 total for this contest. So that'd be a grand total of 4-11. How about you add that to your sig, at least it's true

How is that not reliable? 10 different posters would lie? You know, I also joined a contest Week 1 on SBR where you had to pay an entry fee. Went 7-2. Is that not reliable either?

Haters gonna hate

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Don't be too hard on the guy. He's starting his own thread, which will be some of the best comedy. Seen it before with Crazylou, who cracked up the tennis forum. The stage couldn't have been set more perfectly with Kroy having won BTP last season and ssk in 405th place in the BOL contest right now. Out of 409 players.

The joke is going to be on you.

And you think I actually try on that? I just pick random things closing my eyes. It's not like I had to pay an entry fee. You want to know my record on the contests I had to pay an entry fee? 7-2 Week 1 for starters.