Raiders to win the superbowl any shot?

iifold · 08-04-10, 10:44 PM

Yes..

I'd say 25-1 realistically..

The know-nothings will come in here and say no chance in hell..

Ask them where the finished against the Hillbilly last year...

pat venditto · 08-04-10, 10:45 PM

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iifold · 08-04-10, 10:46 PM

There Team Total Over is probably the best bet going right now..

LT Profits · 08-04-10, 10:55 PM

ZERO chance. Zip. None.

They will finish last in the West again, Kansas City is the more likely darkhorse from that division. Still, I doubt the Chargers don't win the division rather easily.

NBAwinner · 08-04-10, 11:05 PM

i think redskin got more chance

GunShard · 08-04-10, 11:06 PM

No, they won't win.
Jason Campbell as a Redskin had a strong defense and still could not win games.

Jimmy Proffett · 08-04-10, 11:16 PM

The Raiders have an outside chance at the playoffs. I think they'd be better with Gradkowski though. But looking at their schedule (lol NFC South) and their own division, they could get to 9 wins this season. Super Bowl is still a far-too-distant shore.

thezbar · 08-04-10, 11:21 PM

No shot. Save your money. Bet the team total over if you think they will improve. odds will be long for awhile, no need to pull the trigger this early.

Domestic · 08-04-10, 11:27 PM

Would love to see it happen.

Capybara · 08-04-10, 11:29 PM

I agree that the silver and black have a great chance to go Over in wins this year. The Super Bowl would be highly highly unlikely. But hey, crazier things have happened. Well, okay, maybe not.

Team Ramrod · 08-04-10, 11:30 PM

I wouldnt want to waste any cash on it

minet123 · 08-04-10, 11:41 PM

I love it Patty this was my "take shot wager" for NFL futures but "All in on the Brewers

" is correct over 5- wins good too

Killer_Demo · 08-05-10, 12:21 AM

yes the raiders have a chance...we dont got lean-drinkin duh-marcus as the leader anymore. I got faith in Campbell

D3 Mighty Ducks · 08-05-10, 12:25 AM

Save your money buddy.

JayTrotter · 08-05-10, 01:37 AM

No one is saying things, because they are used to the RAIDERS of the last couple years, The RAIDERS may have improved their roster more than any team this off season. Jason Campbell is VERY GOOD. He would have been better in Philly than the much touted, Donovan Mcnabb, last season. Snyder gave away a solid player to get a NAME guy. When one of the best talent evaluators of the last decade lets you go. You are officially damaged goods. If Jason Campbell fits the system, and indicators are that it will work with his strengths, they may be a top 15 offensive unit. The climate has changed. Somehow, someway RAIDER NATION has some hope now.

If you think the KC Chiefs have a better chance because of their well marketed OC, and DC. Come on. They served in a system where they were very compartmentalized and structured. It worked, mostly because of outstanding coverage, discipline, some creative wrinkles that confused a Peyton Manning who didn't fully trust his team mates, and great player evaluation. On Charlie Weis, He had a reputation as an offensive mastermind, who could develop QBs. None of which was exposed at NOTRE DAME. I am not sure if Quin or Clausen, or Charlie's offense, which was stocked with "HIS" people was ever more than a predictable unit, that underachieved whenever anyone visited that was inside the TOP 25. KC may have a good team, and it's statistically likely they improve. Todd Haley will have to manage the egos of his 2 well over paid co-ordinators. Not much job stability when the OC and DC are paid that way, who gets the blame? The HC. Who gets the credit. THE OC or DC. They will have a chance to do somethings offensively. Defensively, Eric Berry is promising. Rare is the GREAT defense where a rookie is the most talented player.

Oakland however, has a good defense, in place. They beat some good teams last year, and will be in a lot of games, because they have an NFL QB. He is in the top half of the league, and makes GOOD decisions. While the super bowl, may be a little out of sight. This team has turned a corner of sorts. They are at least not drafting WRs because they got "get away" speed, and the team's overall intellect and attitude is brand new.

About Jason Campbell. This guy had about 6 or 7 different offenses, in about 8 or 9 seasons dating back to his days at Auburn. Amidst the chaos he has done very well. He was a good player on a confused team. As opposed to Cassel who led one of the best offensive rosters in football to a respectable 11-5, which was an accomplishment, due to his inexperience. A good player on the most disciplined team in the league. The problems in Washington started and trickled down from Daniel Snyder's impatience, poor accounting and lack of perspective. Jason Campbell is a LOT better than most QBs in this league. This is one of the key elements to winning, Cassel did well, when surrounded by an HISTORIC amount of talent, Campbell did well when he was surrounded by Turnover. He fumbles too much, and that happens when you are running for your life. The neglected fact is Campbell will be in a system coached by an offensive lineman. The number one attribute of a LINEMAN is RECOGNITION, at this level, everyone can block. Cable's O Line should be more organized then those in DC, where Campbell was moved on most every play.

The Oakland Coach is a question mark, but not any more so than Haley. I respect them both, and would say that to this point, neither has proved much more than they will not allow Idiots to distract their team. (Jamarcus, LJ). Of the two, CABLE is in a way better situation in OAKLAND. Haley has to win, and will not get any credit for the improvements because of the discussed dream team Co ordinators. Without a good team in KC, he is staring at unemployment. Al Davis has returned to making sound football decisions, and CABLE most likely has a spot, unless the team takes a large step backwards.

Oakland is much better equipped to handle the PASS heavy system San Diego has, with Berry still learning. Rolando McClain was the captain of the best defense in the nation, and now starts his career with an improving unit. Not sure if he will be a HUGE factor. Could be very good in the coming years, since he plays smart fast and tough. They are on the whole, a lot better off in the age old NFL winning equation.

NFL QB + NFL DEFENSE= Winner.

The problem is that even though there are great indicators of improvement in many areas, TOM CABLE is still TOM CABLE. Al Davis went back to what worked with ART SHELL, and JOHN MADDEN and hired a lineman. IF CABLE can be as good in game planning and preparing his group for sunday, as the RAIDERS were in their off-season acquisitions, these guys might be legit. There is REAL weakness in this division.

The super bowl bet is a long shot, even though the AFC is more open than it has been in a LONG time, with the decline of New England, San Diego, and Pittsburgh(due to Ben's Suspension.) Peyton has the Super Bowl Losers curse, and is really in a spot. He is due for a decline, even though it is never wise to bet against the most consistent performer in the last 20 years of NFL. NEW YORK have very high expectations, which are not really based on much ACTUAL improvement. Unless Sanchez is legitimately a TOP 8 QB, back to the outskirts of the post season. BALTIMORE may finally have the OFFENSE it has craved, with Cam Cameron doing his work with combustible WR Boldin. BAL is in the same division with Cincy and PITT, which could just end up with those three beating each other up before anybody gets to the finish line. Flacco did not look ready for PRIMETIME the last we saw him.

I like the way the RAIDERS are going. There is value in backing a team that is founded on good defense and efficient offense.

marcoloco · 08-05-10, 01:41 AM

take total over, dont throw money away on super bowl. im a raider fan and rooting for them the whole way but not putting any money on their super bowl chances

officepoolguy · 08-05-10, 01:50 AM

Jason Campbell is VERY GOOD

REALLY??? VERY GOOD? In All Caps??? Come on now...He did nothing in Washington. You are calling a qb who had a 3.9 TD percentage and a qb rating of 86 very good. I call him average at best. Why would Cable say that they were going to have a 5 way competition for the job if Campbell was the answer. Washington improved tons by getting rid of Campbell and bringing in McNabb while Oakland will struggle.

JayTrotter · 08-05-10, 02:33 AM

Donovan Mcnabb's career rating is 86.5! he was a 92, last year. Jason Campbell is 0.5 away from a potential HOF QB!

Do you want to talk about the difference in talent around Donovan? or his ever increasing inability to recognize and react to a BLITZ? or the fact that Shanahan, who was very average in his last 3 years in Denver has a team filled with malcontents and aged veterans, who are not aging gracefully. Haynesworth can't pass a conditioning test, since it's hard to run with all that money in your pocket..

Campbell is VERY GOOD. He starts for all but 10 teams, and all of those 10 are playoff contenders. Are you assuming that Carroll penciled in Charlie Whitehurst, when he said they would have a competition?

I am not sure what they are doing in Washington with personnel, the closest I can associate it to is collecting used exotic cars. ALL of them were great once, unfortunately, that was then. Good to see Joey Galloway find work again, he was my favorite player in 2000 or so.

jeter12171 · 08-05-10, 02:37 AM

lol

ya in 2030

k13 · 08-05-10, 02:42 AM

If Gradkowski starts then ...... yeah.

Obviously no with that bum Campbell.

xxxvince · 08-05-10, 02:58 AM

y waste money betting on raiders

ok now what · 08-05-10, 03:14 AM

They can't be doing any worse than they have. My futures money is still gonna go elesewhere.

aceking · 08-05-10, 03:23 AM

anything is possible , Uruguay almost won the World Cup .

frankzig · 08-05-10, 03:24 AM

save your money much better spent elsewhere

HauntingTheHoly · 08-05-10, 03:28 AM

Cant' believe no one has mentioned the odds on them yet? Bodog took down their futures for superbowl as of right now, so I do not know. Maybe they are 80-1 or so? If so, isn't it true that that could be a great bet since you can easily get your money back as long as they make the playoffs by betting their opponents Money Line? Books do allow this, yes? I have no experience hedging like this, but was thinking of betting a couple teams that narrowly missed the playoffs last year but whom I think will improve and possibly make it this year. If Raider odds are that steep, they could be a good bet if you hedge, right?

GunShard · 08-05-10, 06:01 AM

If you had to bet on an underdog to win, it would be the 49ers, Jets, Falcons and Ravens.

I personally believe that the Colts, Saints, Packers and Cowboys will have a high chance of winning the Super Bowl.

TheGuesser · 08-06-10, 01:22 AM

At 100-1 or more, Definitely worth a small play.

MendozaLine · 08-06-10, 01:57 AM

Raiders to win the superbowl?

Rookie-Capper · 08-06-10, 08:02 AM

None save your money

julio_cat · 08-06-10, 08:07 AM

Line for the o/u seems good at 6.5

floridagolfer · 08-06-10, 08:20 AM

Whatever odds you have of the Raiders winning the SB, I'll increase it by 10 percent. Send your money to me.

frostno98 · 08-06-10, 05:10 PM

Your odds of surviving Russian Roulette with two bullets in a revolver is vastly better

Cappinpicks · 08-06-10, 05:11 PM

You have better chances of getting struck by lightning the same day you were bite by a shark and won the lotto the night before.

Full Time Hobo · 08-06-10, 05:41 PM

There is always a chance.
But dont waste youre money with it..