The JETS. THEY ARE NOT THERE YET.

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  • pinnacle212
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-11-08
    • 548

    #1
    The JETS. THEY ARE NOT THERE YET.
    1. The Jets play in a very tough AFC East with likes of Miami, NE and Buffalo. The Jets lost to Miami twice last year. @27-31 and 25-30. They lost to Buffalo 13-16 after coming off a Monday Night game against Miami. The Jets did have notable wins vs Cincy, Indy, New England. I do not think Sanchez can hold up in the AFC with these stats. 53% percent completions 12TDs and 20INTS. There is some meat on the schedule this year as well. The JETS have Baltimore, NE and Miami in the first three weeks. A conference game against Buffalo. Minnesota in week 5. The could start the season 0-3. We will find out about the JETS early.

    2.The JETS tried the old addition by subtraction. They got rid of Jones for LT. That doesnt make any since. You get rid of a productive 31 year old back for one that is not productive. SMART. Who do you think saved Sanchez from throwing 40 picks. LT I wont say he is washed up because the O-line was suspect in San Diego. LT or Shonn Green cannot complain about the JET O-line. Your taking a chance on someone you dont know will produce. What if he cant produce. Its pretty much over. Shonn Green will be the starter but he is untested over the long hall.

    3. Santonio Holmes is not good thing for the JETS. You ever hear about those guys that play well during the Super Bowl get big money and you never hear from the again. I think you know where im going. Edwards and Cotch will be a good at WR. I like Dustin Keller at TE. Edwards needs to pull down those big catches. No drops.

    Most of the reason they wont make it is because they will not be able to sustain enough offensive competitiveness. This does not mean they will not score. I think mistakes will be made on the offensive side that will cost them games against tough teams To many question marks with their additions.
  • 3PtShooter
    SBR MVP
    • 04-13-08
    • 3936

    #2
    jets just might not make the playoffs
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    • slacker00
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-06-05
      • 12262

      #3
      1. Good points. Jets haven't proven that they can handle the AFC East yet. Pats still win that division year in and year out. This isn't a knock on the Jets, though, but a healthy respect for teams like the Pats, Phins & Bills.

      2. I wouldn't worry too much about the RB position. I wasn't impressed with the Jets letting go of Thomas Jones and picking up LT. I thought Thomas Jones was a positive locker room guy and LT seems kinda incendiary. But both RBs are getting up there in age in a league where RBs are retreads at the age of 30. It's time to turn the RBs over to the youth there anyway. Besides, this isn't the era of the single back anymore anyway, it's a RB by committee thing. I wouldn't put too much stock into this angle. The o-line is the heart and soul of the running game and the Jets o-line should be better than ever.

      3.I wouldn't worry about Holmes until he acts out. It's the off the field stuff that got him out of Pittsburgh, so that's the red flag. The on the field stuff will take care of itself. Besides, they're not counting on him to be a #1 WR anyway. If he can fly right, he's a great value.

      The Jets have a lot of pieces here that are interesting to see how it all fits together. I agree that there are some issues and questions, but I'd wait to see if these issues become problems rather than making a story where there isn't one. I do think the Jets are getting overhyped, though, especially when their Super Bowl future goes from 20-1 to 10-1, that's a good reason to shy away from Jets action at the moment.
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      • bhikool836
        SBR Sharp
        • 03-17-08
        • 266

        #4
        nice write up pinnacle, Jets are overrated!!
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        • ttwarrior1
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 06-23-09
          • 28478

          #5
          agreed but i do think sanchez plays well , holmes is also out the 1st 3 or 4 games i believe as well. Greene had one good game when a big hole was open. He might not even stay healthy himself.
          There D is good but they still have some holes there. I say they go 9-7, 10-6 if they sweep buffalo and can beat miami and patriots one time
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          • makemerich
            SBR Sharp
            • 02-19-10
            • 392

            #6
            Jets will play better then giants
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            • mickeybenson
              SBR Rookie
              • 07-04-10
              • 46

              #7
              Jets are faaaaaaaaaaaar from there.
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              • JayTrotter
                SBR Sharp
                • 03-27-10
                • 320

                #8
                Can we bet on Jets under 8 wins?
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                • kroyrunner89
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-25-08
                  • 1191

                  #9
                  1. I am concerned about the opening games, no Holmes in those games and this is a team of stars, if things start of bad what will the locker room be like? Will this be a team, or a bunch of individuals? Chemistry is important, when you're winning it's great but if they open awful who knows.

                  2. Thomas Jones was far from productive last season. He ran behind one of the best lines in the NFL, LT ran behind probably one of the worst. He went 4.2 YPC, but if you take out that insane Buffalo game his YPC in the other 15 games was 3.9. Shonn Greene was much more impressive, going 5.0 YPC over 14 games, him and LT at RBBC will be a solid 1-2 punch.

                  3. Not really a good argument to count out Holmes. This guy had 1248 yards last season, 15.8 YPC. It was easily one of his best seasons, and it was one of the Steelers' worst years in a while. Sanchez of course will continue to make mistakes on offense, but not to the extent of last year. He threw 5 interceptions that cost them in a game against the Bills, 3 in a game that cost them against the Saints, 4 in a game that cost them against the Patriots. That's 3 more wins they easily could have had, while I know he'll have his fair share of turnovers this year it certainly won't be like last year. If I remember correctly the Jets also lost a game to the Dolphins because Ginn housed two kickoffs against them, he's no longer on the team. This team could have easily been 12-4 last year rather than 9-7, and I believe they're better this year. The may not win a Super Bowl, but they should take down the East
                  2011 NFL: 4-0 ATS
                  2010 NFL: 21-31 ATS (Stopped after Week 12)
                  2009 NFL: 55-30-1 ATS
                  2008 NFL: 57-36-2 ATS

                  Overall: 137-97-3 ATS
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                  • icancount2one
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-05-10
                    • 1507

                    #10
                    1. I think you overestimate the AFC East. Pats run defense is mediocre, and they may lose some O-line continuity. If Sanchez stretches the field at all this year (coming off elective surgery, more mature, better wideouts) they will have a hard time handling the Jets at all. Miami is improved, but Marshall will be on Revis Island. I don't know why you even mention Buffalo as a hurdle. That would be like saying Pittsburgh should be worried about Kansas City this year. Sanchez did have a stretch where he absolutely played like crap, but don't most rookie QBs? Big Ben and Cool Joe are the exception, not the rule.

                    2. Kroyrunner already covered it. LT may add some flash on 3rd down that TJ doesn't have, and that's all he has to do.

                    3. Holmes at #2 is a great pickup. Also Sanchez will have a camp to gel with Braylon Edwards. Sure he'll drop a couple, but he's definitely a big net positive.
                    Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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                    • makemerich
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 02-19-10
                      • 392

                      #11
                      Doesn't matter Vikings take down w farve
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                      • EDDIE MONEY LINE
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-24-10
                        • 6298

                        #12
                        JETS will make the playoffs.
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                        • OnenOnlyMush
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 07-08-10
                          • 237

                          #13
                          1.The AFC East is no where near as tough as you think. The first of the 2 losses to the Dolphins was a result of the Jets not being prepared for the wildcat and it wet down to the last play. The second game the Jets shut down the wildcat but Ted Ginn returned 2 kicks for TD's. The Bills beat them when Sanchez threw 5 picks and that still took OT!!! That won't happen again.
                          I would bet heavily that Sanchez is going to improve on all 3 of the #'s you provided ( 53% comp, 12 TD's and 20 int's), wouldn't you?
                          2.Shonn Green is the Man now, he's the starter. I agree TJ is a little better than LT but not by much. They have the best center in the game which is way more important to their running success than the RB.
                          3.You couldn't be more wrong about Santonio Holmes. He had 1248 yards last season, good for 7th in the NFL. How is that taking the money and never being heard from again? His stats will definetly decline this year but not because of him. The Jets pass far less than every other team and when they do Schottenheimer likes to spread it around to Edwards, Cotchery and Keller, so his targets will be down.

                          The JETS biggest weakness last year was not being able to cover teams #2,3 & 4 WRs. Revis always has the #1 on lock down but Sheppard, Coleman and Strickland couldn't cover the other guys. SO they brought in Cromartie and drafted Kyle Wilson to help with that.
                          Defense wins Championships!! Glad to see the Jets finally seem to be getting this.
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                          • ttwarrior1
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 06-23-09
                            • 28478

                            #14
                            holmes is suspended and greene couldn't even stay healthy last year to play but in 2 games with a wide open hole. I like the dolphins to win the division
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                            • The General
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 13279

                              #15
                              CNNSI has the Jets #1 in preseason power
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                              • mkoren
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 02-09-10
                                • 200

                                #16
                                I don't thinks this will work. Jets miss the playoffs.
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                                • Cappy
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 07-26-08
                                  • 784

                                  #17
                                  Sanchez is a little girl, but they have a solid running game and the best defense in the NFL. Any quarterback can do something in a system like that, I don't see the new York franchise watching sanchez have a repeat of his rookie season.

                                  Give them some credit, if they can get any type of passing attack going this team is fierce!
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                                  • The General
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 13279

                                    #18
                                    Jets have much potential I would think. This NFL league can produce the strangest things. The Jets fans should be excited heading into the season. Time will tell what the NFL season holds. Probably a lot of totally unexpected things. I know there are so many great stories in the league to follow. I, like many of you I suppose, hope the parity is MUCH better and I hope the Colts do not cover very many games ATS. That CNNSI writer said he doesn't see the Colts being Any better At All in 2010, that they remained the same or worse with no improvements or added talent. He really should write about another sport. There should be many great games in the NFL this season, but knowing how unpredictable the teams are, that is what assists in the excitement and build-up as we get closer.
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                                    • GunShard
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-05-10
                                      • 10033

                                      #19
                                      The Ravens are a better team than the Jets.

                                      Jay Cutler is the overrated player as the Jets are an overrated team.
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                                      • pinnacle212
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 12-11-08
                                        • 548

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by kroyrunner89
                                        1. I am concerned about the opening games, no Holmes in those games and this is a team of stars, if things start of bad what will the locker room be like? Will this be a team, or a bunch of individuals? Chemistry is important, when you're winning it's great but if they open awful who knows. 2. Thomas Jones was far from productive last season. He ran behind one of the best lines in the NFL, LT ran behind probably one of the worst. He went 4.2 YPC, but if you take out that insane Buffalo game his YPC in the other 15 games was 3.9. Shonn Greene was much more impressive, going 5.0 YPC over 14 games, him and LT at RBBC will be a solid 1-2 punch. 3. Not really a good argument to count out Holmes. This guy had 1248 yards last season, 15.8 YPC. It was easily one of his best seasons, and it was one of the Steelers' worst years in a while. Sanchez of course will continue to make mistakes on offense, but not to the extent of last year. He threw 5 interceptions that cost them in a game against the Bills, 3 in a game that cost them against the Saints, 4 in a game that cost them against the Patriots. That's 3 more wins they easily could have had, while I know he'll have his fair share of turnovers this year it certainly won't be like last year. If I remember correctly the Jets also lost a game to the Dolphins because Ginn housed two kickoffs against them, he's no longer on the team. This team could have easily been 12-4 last year rather than 9-7, and I believe they're better this year. The may not win a Super Bowl, but they should take down the East
                                        I have talked a lot of noise about the JETS. Like everyone is saying they have great potential. I think they take out the RAVENS week 1. The X FACTOR is ED REED. I will get into a little more depth later.

                                        If anybody wants to beat me to the punch. GO AHEAD
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