So its definitely not "Peyton hands down" is it? Especially since Brady broke Peyton's single season TD record, albeit just by 1 TD. If you are comparing two QB's by their greatness you need to take a look at what weapons they had around them and their playoff and season success with said players.
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Listen- look at the wide outs that Brady won superbowls with. Enough said.
Everyone knows the Pats are going to throw on 65 percent of their plays in spread or shotgun and you still can't stop Brady. Manning is the biggest choke artist in the playoffs, and did it once more this year. Oh what a surprise.
Manning is a stats guy like LeBron. He is built for the regular season and cannot come through in clutch moments when it matters.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
It's got to be Manning. Winning a title isn't everything to the average fan, it's having the chance to play for a title. Manning has been in it and has a greater career record than Brady.Comment -
Season after season Manning will let you down, at least with Brady you think you have a chance to win in the play offs. Brady all the way.Comment -
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IQ - Peyton
Titles - Brady
Career - Peyton
Consistency - Peyton
Clutch - Brady
Accuracy - Peyton
Power - Brady
'Y' in the name - both
Wife - Brady
Overall: Peyton. No doubt.
If I played on defense I'd crap my pants much more playing against Peyton, although on offense I'd like to play with Brady. I'm a bit deaf so I have a hard time hearing so many audibles
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finally people are seeing the light---Brady is calm,cool,collected,deals with Belichick,and has hot women....but most importantly he has 3 Super Bowl titles and wasn't number one in the draft with Archie Manning for a father.Give Brady some respect
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Here is how I look at it. Take out Bradys crazy 50 TD year and Mannings 29 TD season and who has had better numbers? Clearly its Manning. Some will argue 3 rings for Brady to one for Manning. I think if I was 3 to 0 it would be a huge negative for Manning, but I think if you get one your career is completely validated. So, I say Manning.Comment -
But Manning has also thrown to the likes of Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark for most of his career. Last year was impressive with Wayne banged up, he is a great QB and not taking anything away from him. Just think of how any QB's stats would compare when throwing to David Givens, Troy Brown and the ever overrated Deion Branch as your #1 receivers.Comment -
Manning is better. Brady has had better coaching. And better defenses.Comment -
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QFTIQ - Peyton
Titles - Brady
Career - Peyton
Consistency - Peyton
Clutch - Brady
Accuracy - Peyton
Power - Brady
'Y' in the name - both
Wife - Brady
Overall: Peyton. No doubt.
If I played on defense I'd crap my pants much more playing against Peyton, although on offense I'd like to play with Brady. I'm a bit deaf so I have a hard time hearing so many audibles
Peyton isn't just a QB he's practically the offensive coordinator.Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.Comment -
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OK I had to create a username just to respond to this post. It is Manning in a landslide. His career numbers are MUCH better than Brady's. The only reason some of you people say Brady is because he is more "clutch" and you cite his playoff record, but games are won and lost as a team. Yes Brady has a much better playoff record, but that's a result of being on a better team. When Manning finally won his Super Bowl, despite his 3/7 TD/INT ratio, it was because his defense stepped up big time in the playoffs.
Take a look at individual playoff stats. In the playoffs, Manning has a better passer rating and completion percentage, much more yardage and the same amount of TDs. The only negative is he has 4 more INTs. So those of you that think Brady is better in the playoffs are flat out wrong. Manning is the better QB.Comment -
The only argument Brady has in his favour is the 3 to 1 super bowls. But if Vinatieri misses the two kicks at the death, would we be having this conversation?? Also they should never have been in the position to win their first super bowl (tuck rule). Super bowls are won as a team not just by the QB. If the Colts defense had stepped up in the 2nd half of the last super bowl, Colts would have easily won!!
Based on what they both do on the field, this isn't even close. People need to watch more Colts games to appreciate just what Peyton does for the offense.
Take Brady out (2009), Pats still win 11 games. Take Peyton out of Colts team, they turn into a 5 win a season team max.
I'll take Peyton every time thank you very much
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how can you say hands down? Championships Brady 3 Manning 1
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Colts have almost always had a better team. You people don't get the fact, that Manning has had so many more weapons than Brady yet Brady lead his team to the Super Bowl and won it 3 out of 4 years. And, while it is a team effort not many teams have won a Super Bowl without at least a reliable QB.Comment -
Patriots have almost always had a better team. Colts have had the better offense, but the Patriots D made them the better team. Did Brady win a ring when he had his best (by far) individual season? No. Put Manning on those Patriots teams and he has 3 rings, maybe even more.Comment -
My man- Brady has had the worst receiver core every year they won the superbowl. Now go back in history and tell me 1 quarterback that had that much success with such a shitty group of Wide Outs that are now irrelevant in the league.The only argument Brady has in his favour is the 3 to 1 super bowls. But if Vinatieri misses the two kicks at the death, would we be having this conversation?? Also they should never have been in the position to win their first super bowl (tuck rule). Super bowls are won as a team not just by the QB. If IFFFFF????the Colts defense had stepped up in the 2nd half of the last super bowl, Colts would have easily won!!
Based on what they both do on the field, this isn't even close. People need to watch more Colts games to appreciate just what Peyton does for the offense.
Take Brady out (2009), Pats still win 11 games. Take Peyton out of Colts team, they turn into a 5 win a season team max.
I'll take Peyton every time thank you very much
IF Colts stepped up that superbowl? What IF Manning stepped up? The guy choked that Superbowl he had 1 td and 2 picks and he choked again in 2010 with 3 minutes to go in the game.
When I made my Saints bet ML (didn't even take the plus 6), I was so confident with 3 minutes left in that game when Peyton was going with the hurry up.
Normally in a regular season game I'd be like fukk Peyton is about to drive this ball 80 yards in 2 minutes with ease. But at that moment, I knew this guy chokes every single time in the playoffs- never in his life has he made a clutch play at the end of a game in the playoffs- I was so confident that he'd get picked off with 3 minutes to go I wasn't even sweating my Saints ML bet for 1 second.
Brady in clutch moments is just deadly- you can ask any coach in the league who they fear come playoff time and every single coach will tell you Tom Brady.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
That was a solid 2 minute drill by manning. Yes Brady screwed up right there at the end, that was the only time I remember Brady not coming through in the clutch.
By the way, did you happen to see Manning on the Sidelines when Brady stepped onto the field w a minute left? The guy had his face buried in his hands even though his team was up. He feared Brady. He was so scared.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
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So Brady won the first three superbowls but his O line lost the 4th one. Ok good one!! The fact that they were 18-0, favourites by 14 going into the game and could only put up 14 points shows he didn't "come through in the clutch".
Like I said from before, people used the argument that Brady was better because he had more championships but I said they won it as a team, not just him by himself!! The thread was started asking who is the better QB. And in terms of playing as a QB, Manning is better and I don't even think it's close!! But that's only my opinion, others will vary and that's the point of a discussion
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You could say this about any game that involves the Colts being up by less than 7 with the defense on the field late in the 4th quarter. I wouldn't say he necessarily feared Brady he just has no confidence in the Colts D.
But you are right Brady put his team in a position to win in the Super Bowl against the Giants. His defense let him down. That's why you can't compare quarterbacks based on team accomplishments.Comment -
My man, Manning has played with some of the most talented teams this league has ever seen. Dallas Clark will go down as one of the best tight ends ever. Harrison is a first ballet HOFamer. And Reggie Wayne will be a first ballet HOFer when he retires too. Not to mention some of the best DE's that have ever played the game.
So Brady won the first three superbowls but his O line lost the 4th one. Ok good one!! The fact that they were 18-0, favourites by 14 going into the game and could only put up 14 points shows he didn't "come through in the clutch".
Like I said from before, people used the argument that Brady was better because he had more championships but I said they won it as a team, not just him by himself!! The thread was started asking who is the better QB. And in terms of playing as a QB, Manning is better and I don't even think it's close!! But that's only my opinion, others will vary and that's the point of a discussion
Brady had a couple of first-ballet HOF on his defense the years they won it. That's it. Besides a solid offensive line, Brady's offensive weapons were a fukking joke. Those guys are irrelevant in the league today.
And yeah, Brady's offensive line lost that superbowl, no one else. They were completely manhandled.
I don't even care about this discussion anymore. Manning will NEVER win another ring. When its all said and done Brady will go down as a better quarterback and that's all that matters.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
Some numbers to look at. (Playoff Record hurts Manning according to Experts)
Peyton Manning's Career Regular Season Stats
Tom Brady's Career Regular Season Stats
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Manning on those Patriot teams - 3 super bowls
Brady on those Colt teams - 1 super bowl.Comment
