Did Green Bay get cheated,,,Watch the last play here

G's pks · 01-11-10, 01:56 PM

any team that lets up 51 or 45 points in a playoff game should be bit$h slapped!

Jimmy0607 · 01-11-10, 01:57 PM

Poor Aaron

mmike032 · 01-11-10, 01:58 PM

even if the facemask is called its still Zonas ball isnt it?
the facemask was after the fumble/INT and Zona recovers.
already in FG range although Rackers choked on the previouse FG

Richkas · 01-11-10, 02:02 PM

Refs missed it. I wasnt watching anymore. I had the OVER. It got kinda pathetic so I quit watching. Neither team would have gotten past next week anyway.

Richkas · 01-11-10, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by mmike032

even if the facemask is called its still Zonas ball isnt it?
the facemask was after the fumble/INT and Zona recovers.
already in FG range although Rackers choked on the previouse FG

Good point.

slacker00 · 01-11-10, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Richkas

Refs missed it. I wasnt watching anymore. I had the OVER. It got kinda pathetic so I quit watching. Neither team would have gotten past next week anyway.

Next week might break this week's points record. lmao

Chateaugay · 01-11-10, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by slacker00

Next week might break this week's points record. lmao

BigdaddyQH · 01-11-10, 02:57 PM

The penalty occurred while the play was still going on. Green Bay keeps the ball if the penalty was called. I had Green Bay. They were my only loss of the weekend. While the Pack got screwed, they deserved to lose. No one gives up 45 points and deserves to win. Not even Arizona. It was a rather bad ending to a game which was probably the most enjoyable for the fans to watch in many a year. They also missed the "helmet to helmet" penalty against Arizona on the play before the fumble play. I guess you have to expect the ref's to put their whistles away in O.T. I am not real mad. No excuses. It was a fluke game, and you have to accept a few of those tough losses. Oddly enough, I had Arizona in a pool, so I guess things balanced out.

mav2112 · 01-11-10, 03:17 PM

Green Bay had their chances.............

Guy misses a FG he has not missed this year.........(Rackers was like 11-11 from inside 40 yards)
They win the coin toss.........................
Rodgers misses a wide open Jennings on the first play of overtime....................

Thats 3 chances right there...........

Kav · 01-11-10, 03:25 PM

im a die hard packers fan, and i had to say this game stung a lot the way it finished. first they didnt call the helmet to helmet penalty, then this! i love how in the replay, while the facemask happened you can clearly see a ref standing there watching it all happen right behind them and doesnt call it.

watch from 1:22min-1:27min

talk about screwed/cheated/fixed...

smarmy · 01-11-10, 03:25 PM

They missed it but GB didin't deserve to win that. It was terrible. AZ was terrible too, on the D side of the ball anyway. Obviously, O was on spot.

Kav · 01-11-10, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by mav2112

Green Bay had their chances.............

Guy misses a FG he has not missed this year.........(Rackers was like 11-11 from inside 40 yards)
They win the coin toss.........................
Rodgers misses a wide open Jennings on the first play of overtime....................

Thats 3 chances right there...........

the jennings pass is true, if he nailed that pass we wouldnt be here talking about this, sadly we are...

DrStale · 01-11-10, 03:28 PM

The Packers got screwed on a few plays toward the end. The helmet to helmet was just as bad as the face mask, if not worse. But it is what it is and I move on.

pavyracer · 01-11-10, 03:32 PM

In the land of the blind the one-eyed is the king.

Pecos Bill · 01-11-10, 03:35 PM

Jshap1515 · 01-11-10, 03:37 PM

There is no way that call gets called in any game. Stop saying the Pack got cheated because that is just ridiculous

Pecos Bill · 01-11-10, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Jshap1515

There is no way that call gets called in any game. Stop saying the Pack got cheated because that is just ridiculous

the pack got cheated.

ranman92 · 01-11-10, 03:41 PM

WAH WAH WAH!!!!!!!! Espn is becoming a ridiculous network. When the play happened nobody including the announcers saw it. And 1 of my good friends is a die hard Packers fan and he even admitted until he turned to ESPN and they showed it he didn't even notice it. All the attention was on the ball the referees 1st concern was determining if it was a fumble cause if it wasn't caught out of the air they would have had to blow the play dead. If the game was fixed the outcome would have been determined way before overtime. Keep on crying Packers fan. Espn is so biased nowadays it's amazing. Another example is their pro Kobe bias. On xmas they show how many times he got fouled and it wasn't called and a week later he hits a 3 against the Kings to win the game after clearly pushing a guy off which they said nothing about.

xfrozenx · 01-11-10, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by konck

hahhahahaha I had Zona baby ...
Two things if Rodgers doesnt kick the ball i think there's no pick
The other is he was Face masked lol My kinda Refs

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...ds-pull-it-out

ye me and my family last night saw the Facemask. I was praying they wouldn't call it LMFAO...it was awesome that they didn't. Sorry to you Green Bay backers.

BigdaddyQH · 01-11-10, 03:46 PM

The fact is that the facemask had nothing to do with the fumble. The ball was coming out before the hand found the face mask. They should have caalled it, but if there were no facemask penalty, the results would have been the same. Time to move on. Dr. Stale is corrent. What happened is now in the past.

polsefest · 01-11-10, 03:49 PM

I don't think whether if it was a penalty is the question, the real question is was it a INT return? I believe it was a punt return. it did go off aaron rodgers foot, shouldn't it be a punt return. Arizona got cheated. they should be credited with a punt return and not a interception return.

BigdaddyQH · 01-11-10, 03:54 PM

It was technically, a punt. Had Green Bay recovered, it would have been Arizona's ball at the spot of the recovery.

To clarify the face mask rule, here is an exerpt from the statement that the NFL released today:
The rulebook says that a play on which a player "incidentally grasps" an opponent's facemask in a manner that "is not a twist, turn or pull" is not a penalty.

polsefest · 01-11-10, 03:57 PM

so Arizona did get cheated!

SHADYLANKY · 01-11-10, 03:58 PM

I lost pretty big on the Packers. They blew it more in the 1st Qtr then that one play. Can't turn it over that many time in playoff game and expect to win very often. Cost me 1000+ SBR points too.

ClimbSomeRocks · 01-11-10, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by polsefest

I don't think whether if it was a penalty is the question, the real question is was it a INT return? I believe it was a punt return. it did go off aaron rodgers foot, shouldn't it be a punt return. Arizona got cheated. they should be credited with a punt return and not a interception return.

mav2112 · 01-11-10, 04:39 PM

In reality.............Aaron Rodgers held that ball wayyyyyyyyy to long.........The defensive player had to come all the way around to get him.

No way Rodgers or any good NFL QB holds the ball that long..........

Especially in that position of the game..........a turnover there means a lot more than a turnover in the 1st quarter...........

kahnner · 01-11-10, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by mav2112

In reality.............Aaron Rodgers held that ball wayyyyyyyyy to long.........The defensive player had to come all the way around to get him.

No way Rodgers or any good NFL QB holds the ball that long..........

Especially in that position of the game..........a turnover there means a lot more than a turnover in the 1st quarter...........

VERY GOOD POINT!

I TOTALLY AGREE!
I'M A DIE HARD PACKER FAN AND ALSO MISSED RODGERS GETTING HIS FACEMASK PULLED!
THE PACKERS DEFENSE IS VERY OVERATED AND IT SHOWED!
RODGERS SHOWED HOW GOOD HE REALLY IS AND THAT OFFENSE THE PACKERS HAVE, IF THE CAN PATCH THAT LINE UP A LITTLE--- WATCH OUT!

6_Feet_Under · 01-11-10, 05:20 PM

Bottom line,if your D shows up then you're not in that position.No ref should make that call in that spot.That's like calling pass interference on a hail mary.I have no problem with the ref swallowing the whistle.

Chambokl · 01-11-10, 05:33 PM

After the fumble (punt, interception) the ref is watching the ball not the quarterback... He has no clue what happen to Rodgers after the fumble... He is doing his job.

Anyway... there was no facemask.

ShamsWoof10 · 01-11-10, 05:34 PM

That makes up for the catch on GB's final drive in regulation that should have been challenged and I don't think was a catch... I was amazed, not only that it was not challenged, but that the announcers didn't say a damn thing about it...

Dark Horse · 01-11-10, 05:47 PM

Or the Jennings knee, down by contact at the 30, that was overlooked, resulting in a 1st and goal instead. The refs were not the best, but the game certainly wasn't called in favor of Arizona. I recall a crucial 3rd and long late in the game when GB was bailed out by a phantom pass interference call.

By the way, this sport of tough guys is becoming a joke. Receivers are flopping all over the place, and asking for flags left, right, and center. With that stupid little hand gesture. How often does a late flag fly in as a result?

Straight Cash · 01-11-10, 06:00 PM

Every game has missed plays, I'm sure you could find plenty that went GB's way too.

HoofHearted · 01-11-10, 06:09 PM

Fo sho players and coaches yell and get all crazy to get officials to throw the late flag..Its amazing how influence is huge in games.. I dont really care unless it is a call that determines the outcome of the game...then that is totally wrong. HH

Tsiggy Fresh · 01-11-10, 06:55 PM

shoulda done somethin about it OT at 45-45..? fooolish