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  • tbird509
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-05-09
    • 761

    #1
    reasons why saints stay undeafeated
    NEW ENGLAND OFFENSE: It's no secret that the Saints defense has struggled recently. They've allowed their last five opponents to gain at least 119 rushing yards. They've also had some problems containing the pass. Matt Ryan and Marc Bulger recently had their way with New Orleans' secondary.

    Things will change starting Monday night. Injuries have been the source of New Orleans' problems. Stud defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis missed four weeks. Top corner Jabari Greer was out the past two games. Interception-hungry safety Darren Sharper also missed some action. All three guys will be back in the lineup.

    It'll be difficult to stymie the Patriots' vaunted offense completely, but with all of their star defensive players back, I think the Saints can force New England into more punts than analysts are projecting. Greer will be stuck on Moss, which is a better matchup than most people realize. Containing Wes Welker will be a problem, but Sharper is one of the smartest safeties in the league. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he picked off Tom Brady once.

    New England won't be able to run the ball. I listed those negative stats the Saints had against opposing ground attacks. All of that came with Ellis out of the lineup. Before Ellis got hurt, New Orleans had allowed only one 100-yard rushing performance in five contests.

    NEW ORLEANS OFFENSE: While I think the Saints' defense will play pretty well, I can't say the same thing about New England's stop unit. The Patriots have two problems: getting to the quarterback and containing the run.

    In an attempt to sound like Jon Gruden, if Drew Brees has time in the pocket, he'll kill you. If you try to blitz Brees, he'll murder you even quicker. New England has just 18 sacks on the year. I really don't know how they're going to put any pressure on Brees. After all, there's a reason Bill Belichick didn't want to punt the ball away to Peyton Manning.

    The Saints are so lethal on offense because in addition to having Brees and all of his weapons, they can control the clock with their prolific running game. That's terrible news for the Patriots; on only four occasions this season have they permitted less than 100 rushing yards to an opponent.

    One last wrinkle: Reggie Bush will be back after missing the Tampa Bay contest. He's not a huge factor on offense, but he'll play a large role in the return game.

    RECAP: Most TV analysts think the Patriots will win. The public is backing New England as well. The reason for this is that New Orleans' defense has struggled lately. But as I explained earlier, that won't be the case Monday night because all of the star players will be back in the lineup.

    I like the Saints here. First of all, I think they're the better team with the superior defense. But more importantly, this is a huge statement game for them. As mentioned, most people in the media are picking the Patriots to pull the upset. This has to infuriate a Saints squad that feels it's not getting any respect. This will be their chance to prove to the league that they're legit.

    It'll be downright chaotic in the Superdome on Monday night. I know Brady, Belichick, Moss and Welker have seen it all, but many of their young players haven't.


    The Psychology. Edge: Saints.
    Huge statement game for the Saints. I really don't see why this contest matters much to the Patriots; they're in control of their division, but they aren't going to catch the Colts.
  • tomcast
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 06-19-06
    • 754

    #2
    I am on the Saints
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    • Scorpion
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-04-05
      • 7797

      #3
      Williams + Peyton > Bellichick

      Bellichick is overrated and as you all saw vs Indy he showed everyone that he is stupid also, the guy won 3 SBs because he cheated, he is bogus

      NO should win tonight, they have the edge in coaching also
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      • BrownTown
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-06-09
        • 624

        #4
        Originally posted by tbird509
        NEW ENGLAND OFFENSE: It's no secret that the Saints defense has struggled recently. They've allowed their last five opponents to gain at least 119 rushing yards. They've also had some problems containing the pass. Matt Ryan and Marc Bulger recently had their way with New Orleans' secondary.

        Things will change starting Monday night. Injuries have been the source of New Orleans' problems. Stud defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis missed four weeks. Top corner Jabari Greer was out the past two games. Interception-hungry safety Darren Sharper also missed some action. All three guys will be back in the lineup.

        It'll be difficult to stymie the Patriots' vaunted offense completely, but with all of their star defensive players back, I think the Saints can force New England into more punts than analysts are projecting. Greer will be stuck on Moss, which is a better matchup than most people realize. Containing Wes Welker will be a problem, but Sharper is one of the smartest safeties in the league. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he picked off Tom Brady once.

        New England won't be able to run the ball. I listed those negative stats the Saints had against opposing ground attacks. All of that came with Ellis out of the lineup. Before Ellis got hurt, New Orleans had allowed only one 100-yard rushing performance in five contests.

        NEW ORLEANS OFFENSE: While I think the Saints' defense will play pretty well, I can't say the same thing about New England's stop unit. The Patriots have two problems: getting to the quarterback and containing the run.

        In an attempt to sound like Jon Gruden, if Drew Brees has time in the pocket, he'll kill you. If you try to blitz Brees, he'll murder you even quicker. New England has just 18 sacks on the year. I really don't know how they're going to put any pressure on Brees. After all, there's a reason Bill Belichick didn't want to punt the ball away to Peyton Manning.

        The Saints are so lethal on offense because in addition to having Brees and all of his weapons, they can control the clock with their prolific running game. That's terrible news for the Patriots; on only four occasions this season have they permitted less than 100 rushing yards to an opponent.

        One last wrinkle: Reggie Bush will be back after missing the Tampa Bay contest. He's not a huge factor on offense, but he'll play a large role in the return game.

        RECAP: Most TV analysts think the Patriots will win. The public is backing New England as well. The reason for this is that New Orleans' defense has struggled lately. But as I explained earlier, that won't be the case Monday night because all of the star players will be back in the lineup.

        I like the Saints here. First of all, I think they're the better team with the superior defense. But more importantly, this is a huge statement game for them. As mentioned, most people in the media are picking the Patriots to pull the upset. This has to infuriate a Saints squad that feels it's not getting any respect. This will be their chance to prove to the league that they're legit.

        It'll be downright chaotic in the Superdome on Monday night. I know Brady, Belichick, Moss and Welker have seen it all, but many of their young players haven't.


        The Psychology. Edge: Saints.
        Huge statement game for the Saints. I really don't see why this contest matters much to the Patriots; they're in control of their division, but they aren't going to catch the Colts.
        Superior Defense?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

        By "superior" you mean ... they cannot stop anyone's rushing attack? Here's a little nugget for you to chew on here: NO has given up an average of 148 rushing yards per game over the past 5 weeks. The 5 teams they faced in that stretch are ... TB, STL, CAR, MIAMI, ATL.

        My first question is, which of the 5 teams NO has played the last 5 weeks will make the playoffs? Answer - NONE.
        My second question is, which of those 5 teams have the offensive firepower NE does? Answer - NONE.\
        My final question is, does 1 guy really change the entire landscape of a defense when stopping the run like you calim Ellis had? Answer - NO

        The write-up is full is emotion, which is great ... but you cannot replace stats and trends with emotion when capping. My prediction for this one is a Pats win ... 38-34
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        • maseda17
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 11-17-09
          • 781

          #5
          How does it not matter much to the Patriots when they are also playing for a bye in the playoffs. Just because they won't catch the Colts doesn't mean the #2 seed is pointless. The bye week to start the playoffs is huge.
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          • thebertshow
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 08-30-07
            • 645

            #6
            Patriots roll!
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            • tbird509
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-05-09
              • 761

              #7
              pats wont beable to stop the run,you'll see a heavy dose of thomas and bell,which will set up big playaction plays...ne doesnt and wont beable to pressure brees,and with sed ellis back,maroney wont be power running like he has been lately..greer will hold his own vs moss and look for sharper to make some big plays...for the pats to win welker has to have 16 catches and 150yd 2td's and i dont see that happening...gl to all of you,but im playin the home team....
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              • maseda17
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-17-09
                • 781

                #8
                I don't follow the concept that this is a no brainer for either side. This game seems like a complete coin flip. I don't think either team is going to be grinding out chunks of rushing yards in this game. Both teams will run the ball but only with moderate success and to as you say, set up the play action. Welker will have double digit receptions, but those TDs will go elsewhere. The team that loses this game is the one that has more than 1 stalled drive on the opposing team's side of the ball resulting in FG as opposed to TD. I think the logic that New Orleans rushes all over New England is way off base. GL to you though.
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                • tbird509
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-05-09
                  • 761

                  #9
                  whos gona stop the xfactor mr monday night....watch out for shockey
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                  • BrownTown
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-06-09
                    • 624

                    #10
                    I agree...tbird appears to be somewhat dillusional to think this is a done deal. Look, NO has played NOBODY. There is no reason to think they walk in this one. The hoody will have some shit Drew has never seen before on defense and on offense, I really think NO has a hard time stopping the run.

                    If this game turns into a shoot-out ... anyone's guess. But I think both teams try and win the TOP stat and establish the run.
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                    • og4667
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-17-09
                      • 2438

                      #11
                      I do like the saints at home with what seems like the more balanced offense, BUT....the lack of quality opponents over the past weeks has me worried. On the other hand when you look at the Pats they have already faced 3 or 4 undefeated teams this year. (Jets, Ravens, Broncos, Colts). The Saints might not be ready for what the pats are gonna do. tough call. still deciding.
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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #12
                        Originally posted by maseda17
                        How does it not matter much to the Patriots when they are also playing for a bye in the playoffs. Just because they won't catch the Colts doesn't mean the #2 seed is pointless. The bye week to start the playoffs is huge.

                        dont 4get the pats are the kind of team that likes 2 make statements and beating down the previously unbeatin saints in there house should end all the talk about them not winning on the road this year
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                        • tbird509
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-05-09
                          • 761

                          #13
                          pats r coming off div game,thats always a disadvantage- couldnt stop thomas jones,who we know is no joke,but you have a 3 headed monster who will run it right at them...if your thinking its gona be a passing offene fron n.o,ur dead wrong,they'll control the clock,run it up the gut and playaction on 3rd and short with shockey catching alot of 1st downs,and a couple of td's..n.o is averaging 153yds a game which is 4th and ne is giving up 109 which is 16th ..dont get me wrong im a pats fan,but they wont stop the run 2nite..which means n.o 28-pats 17
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #14
                            tbird i believe both teams can and will have some success running the ball 2nite however not sure what makes you think ne isnt perfectly capable of winning the same way as you just stated for the saints. lets take a min and look at who these teams are that no has been avg all these rushing yards against as ive said in other post im not trying to take any thing away from the saints there a very good team w legitimate shot at the superbowl however ne been there done that and in this spot i like my chances with the battle tested pats
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                            • tbird509
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-05-09
                              • 761

                              #15
                              you guys all have faith in a team (ne) where the coach doesnt even have faith in his defense......on 4 and 2,that was the absolute worst call ive seen watching football,payton manning is good,but big bill was scarred shitless of him,i cant back a team if the coach is supposed to be a defensive god,and didnt even go with what he kno's best...
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                              • 2daBank
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-26-09
                                • 88966

                                #16
                                tbird would you care to wager those 56 points you have?
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                                • tbird509
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-05-09
                                  • 761

                                  #17
                                  4sho 2dabank ill send them over gladly,but i tried to warn you saints will win....but you have a bet
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #18
                                    COOL..its noted you warned me and thnx for your insight i just cant see pats losing this gm.. you wanna send me the 56 now and ill send you 112 back if you win or vise versa?
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