| Opponent | Line | SCORE | Allow | Rush Att | Rush Yds | Complete | Pass Att | Pass Yds | Pass TD | Pass INT |
| @ Hou | -3.5 | 17 | 10 | 45 | 314 | 6 | 10 | 55 | 0 | 1 |
| @ Kan City | 13 | 17 | 20 | 29 | 172 | 5 | 16 | 80 | 0 | 0 |
| vs HOU | -3 | 14 | 19 | 31 | 184 | 14 | 23 | 99 | 0 | 2 |
| Average | 16.0 | 16.3 | 35.0 | 223.3 | 8.3 | 16.3 | 78.0 | - | 1.0 | |
| Avg YPR | 6.4 | Comp % | 51.0% |
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How many points do you think Jordan Love is worth against the spread? The lookahead line was GB -4/4.5, now is IND -3/3.5. The 7+ point move crossing 0 limits its impact a bit. Too much? Not enough?Comment -
That's the Million $ question, Andy. I've commented on the Jet transition from Zach Wilson to Rodgers. I felt strongly that the Difference was smaller than the Market adjustment.
Re: Love/Willis, my initial reaction would have been a massive Difference. As I looked at the past Willis starts, I think it's smaller. Willis is a physical QB. What will the Packer offensive scheme look like? Figures to be more run-oriented. Can Lafleur adjust the game-plan to fit Willis' strengths?Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
I thought 7-8Comment -
Seems like a lot of points differential but it is NFL overreaction wk 2 of the season.Comment -
why a new thread on this?Comment -
iberty scheduled up so they played some decent teams and his college stats were 63% passing for 48 TD's and 18 int's, while rushing 366 times for 2131 yards at a 5.8 yds per rush avg clip and 29 TD's.
he gets the whole week with the starting offense all reps.
i think it is just as likely to be his coming out party on sunday as it is the colts will win and cover.
after watching cooper rush take over for dak in dallas in 2022 and win his first 4 or 5 games and then last year tyson bagent in chicago play so well at home and win, i have come to the conclusion that even back up quarterbacks from no name schools (look up where rush and bagent went to school, it is hilarious) are so well coached and prepared these days with game plans built off metrics and data analytics, that is just too risky.
also, when new guys start for fallen stars, in the very first game, the guys around tend to really step up their game to protect the new player as much as possible. so 21 guys out of 22 on GB will likely play the hardest yes the hardest (they are human beings) they have ever played this sunday.
GL to you.
i lean PACKERS plus the points or no play.
no way i am giving points on the road with THAT defense from indy.Comment -
stay away 1975. Let Malik prove his is worthy? He has looked like a deer in headlights when he has played. Maybe the change of scenery will help? who Knows? But I would stay away unless you think you are ahead of the curve here. Doubtful? GL.Comment -
RIDER i lean GB or no play at all.
i am going no play.
both coaches are good. slight edge to GB coach imo.
i watched Malik play a ton at liberty.
he can throw and run.
he will play well IMO
not saying it will be enough to cover or win, but i believe he will play well.
GB coaches have entire week to prep him with a game plan.
again i say it: Bagent last year and Rush in 2022 for dallas.
neither guy close to the talent on paper that Malik is.
book that.Comment -
i disagree.
they ran out tannehill and malik.
this is the NFL bro, everyone knows that playing QB is such a difficult thing.
ask justin fields, zach wilson, bryce young, etc etc. for every top draft choice who does well, i can name 5 or more who do not.
#1 pick baker m has been on what 5 or 6 teams?
they are rebuilding under callahan.
they will give Will Levis this year and next year.
2023 was his rookie year.
he is 18 games into his career and barely started the last half of last season.
he made a bonehead play on Sun vs Da Bears but the rest of the team effed up too.
don't overreact if they lose against the jets.
the jets need a win and have a HOF qbComment -
I say TENN Gives Levis this year and Young too for Carolina. If CAR does not show improvement and gets the high round pick again I say they go in a different direction. This is a win now league IMO. 33+ games is enough to see what Levis brings to the table. Zach is done a back up in this league. you saw what happened to the Jets did you not?Last edited by Easy-Rider 66; 09-11-24, 05:52 PM.Comment -
LEVIS only started/appeared in 9 games last season.
add in sunday and he has appeared in just 10 games.
16 more games puts him at 26 total games barely 1.5 seasons in the league starting.
if the GM and HC like him, he ain't going anywhere.
better to build a QB you picked in the 30's in the draft rather than try and hit a home run with another QB
especially because next year's draft appears much weaker at the QB spot.
let's see.
bryce young? better get that kid some help. carolina is a joke and even more of a joke if they think they can go draft a tom brady and it will make a difference.
it would be like archie manning. absolute superstar always stuck on a shitty teamComment -
RIDER i think the important thing is that neither of us stay married to our positions too long.
if Levis ends up being good, don't fight it and keep fading him.
if levis ends up busting out, i am not going to fight it and keep the faith in him.
i learned the hard way many moons ago, not to be married to teams or players in terms of my opinions of them either way.
if they suck, just admit it to myself that i was wrong in thinking they were good.
and if they are good but i thought they would suck, turn my opinion around.
2002 ohio state football was winning with smoke and mirrors and by the time i figured it out it was the Natty game vs Miami and i took the Buckeyes +12.5 points HUGE
still, the big win i had in the high four digits, did not make up for my 1-4 record ATS against them that season.
i learned then, that when a team keeps winning, even if it's ugly, do not hold it against them. winning ain't easy and it should be respected.Comment -
you see Young Play? He has a weak arm. He can't throw with success deep and his WR's are at a disadvantage for getting separation from defenders. Not saying he has alot of talent around but look at his Bama days. He had all he needed and excelled at the college level. But NCAAF Is not the NFL. Young will prove to be a bust IMO. I like the guy think he is a good guy. But he is not getting it done at the highest level. Unless he suddenly improves leaps and bounds CAR Moves in a different direction next year. IMO.Comment -
brother i have been watching bryce young play since he was at mater dei HS.
he is quite possibly on the worst team #32 out of 32 in the NFL.
he has tremendous accuracy but not even tom brady or joe montana would win with this carolina team.
you are very sharp and you know this.
bryce will be successful in this league. he will win. he just needs the right team.
switch him out with CJ Stroud and he'd be winning in Hou and CJ would be losing in Caro.Comment -
Jordan to Malik
So, how exactly does the switch shake up Sunday's odds?
“It’s a big impact because Willis in an unproven passer and has only been with the team for a little over a week,” explained Action Network’s Director of Predictive Analytics Sean Koerner. “It’s probably worth 6-7 points, like the market is implying, but also has a huge impact on the under. Green Bay will be much more run heavy and will probably allow Indianapolis to be even more run heavy.”
The early line for this game had the Packers as a 4.5-point favorite before Love went down. The move to Willis swung it 6.5 points the other direction as Indianapolis begins the week as a 3.5-point favorite. Meanwhile, the total was set at 47 prior to Love’s injury and now sits between 40.5-41.
Willis entered the NFL as the Tennessee Titans’ third-round pick in the 2022 Draft. He appeared in 11 games, including three starts, over two seasons in Tennessee, completing 35-of-66 passes with no touchdowns and three picks. However, for what it’s worth, he had a solid preseason in limited playing time for the Titans, completing 20-of-27 passes for 205 yards, two touchdowns and one pick for a 104.7 passer rating.
Should the Packers go with a run-heavy package, that likely means even more touches for new running back Josh Jacobs. The former Raider and NFL rushing champ carried the ball 16 times for 84 yards in his Packers debut. Meanwhile, the Colts were gashed on the ground in their loss to the Houston Texans, giving up an NFL worst 213 rushing yards.
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No-name backups being thrust into the starting role almost always result in an overreaction and they did lose to the Eagles, who are probably one of the better teams in the league; take the Pack.Last edited by DrunkHorseplayer; 09-13-24, 09:26 PM.Comment -
I've thought about this. I'm convinced the Love-to-Willis adjustment is too much.
Armchair QBs think they have this one figured out. Yes, his Passing stats look bad. Lafleur surely has this figured out. I'm expecting a non-traditional scheme that looks more like the Oklahoma wish-bone attack.
Listen to all the talking-heads. They're laughing at Willis. Last laugh to Malik?Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
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Love has NOT been ruled out for Sunday's game.Comment -
Respect your opinion. I have a peanut on GBay +3.
My angle on this game is that the ADJUSTMENT from Love to Willis is simply too big. And I say that b/c Willis will be programmed to run a non-traditional offense. I'm expecting a fast low-scoring game, b/c of so many rush plays.
19-17? Really think the Packers are +EV here (as long as you get +3 or more).Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
I would take the Packers had Willis been with the team through the off-season and had a chance to digest the playbook.
Not sure I can trust him with such minimal prep time however.Comment -
1) Yeah, the Love thing was just to mess with Indy's prep time. To prep for Love? That actually sounds like an illegal injury report.
2) As for Willis, I did some more digging. Sean Clifford was the backup QB previously. They put Clifford on the practice squad. They must have not liked Clifford too much. Willis was a late addition on Aug 26. Clifford should be the backup QB today.
3) They did draft Pratt from Tulane in the 7th round. I was shocked @ how much Pratt's stock dropped leading up to the draft. Again, they must not have liked Pratt. They released Pratt the day after they traded for Willis. On Aug 28 Tampa Bay picked up Pratt and put him on their practice squad (as 3rd QB).Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
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