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  • Judge Crater
    SBR MVP
    • 10-05-20
    • 2024

    #1
    NFL Rule Changes I would like to see
    1. Have major and minor PI calls, much like roughing the kicker. No more 50 yard ticky tack PI calls.
    2. No defensive timeouts in the last 10 seconds when a team is lined up for a FG.
    3. Fix the defensive launching penalty on FG attempts. If a guy can do it alone fine, penalizing an assist from a teammate(s) would be enough.
  • Seattle Slew
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-02-06
    • 7373

    #2
    Originally posted by Judge Crater
    1. Have major and minor PI calls, much like roughing the kicker. No more 50 yard ticky tack PI calls.
    2. No defensive timeouts in the last 10 seconds when a team is lined up for a FG.
    3. Fix the defensive launching penalty on FG attempts. If a guy can do it alone fine, penalizing an assist from a teammate(s) would be enough.
    Agree somewhat. I'd adjust the PI to college rules, 15 yards. Too much debate on levels of penalties. Remember they used to have the 5-yard face mask and the 15-yard face mask and then just made it 15 all the time.

    Agree on the FG timeout. I would have thought they would have done that 15 years ago.

    They used to outlaw the push from behind, but dropped that for some reason. I think they might bring that back with the amount of teams doing it now.
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    • Judge Crater
      SBR MVP
      • 10-05-20
      • 2024

      #3
      Originally posted by Seattle Slew
      Agree somewhat. I'd adjust the PI to college rules, 15 yards. Too much debate on levels of penalties. Remember they used to have the 5-yard face mask and the 15-yard face mask and then just made it 15 all the time.
      Agree on the FG timeout. I would have thought they would have done that 15 years ago.
      They used to outlaw the push from behind, but dropped that for some reason. I think they might bring that back with the amount of teams doing it now.
      Agree, they should outlaw the QB sneak with the rugby style push from behind.
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      • johnnyvegas13
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 05-21-15
        • 27897

        #4
        Originally posted by Judge Crater
        1. Have major and minor PI calls, much like roughing the kicker. No more 50 yard ticky tack PI calls.
        2. No defensive timeouts in the last 10 seconds when a team is lined up for a FG.
        3. Fix the defensive launching penalty on FG attempts. If a guy can do it alone fine, penalizing an assist from a teammate(s) would be enough.
        Isn’t holding instead of pi already kinda like the minor

        number two if u can’t call timeout u r setting up for a fake and ur stuck on the field so no
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        • johnnyvegas13
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 05-21-15
          • 27897

          #5
          Originally posted by Judge Crater
          Agree, they should outlaw the QB sneak with the rugby style push from behind.
          The it by far the most controversial one right now

          teams like the eagles r kinda cheating
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          • Slurry Pumper
            SBR MVP
            • 06-18-18
            • 2811

            #6
            I think you should be able to review whatever you want, and the reviews keep coming as long as you're right. You get 2 reviews to lose.
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            • Judge Crater
              SBR MVP
              • 10-05-20
              • 2024

              #7
              Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
              Isn’t holding instead of pi already kinda like the minor number two if u can’t call timeout u r setting up for a fake and ur stuck on the field so no
              Defensive holding is before the pass
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              • Eddy Munny
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-13-13
                • 15767

                #8
                Outlawing a defensive timeout in the last 10 seconds is absurd... What good are timeouts if you can't use them as you see fit during the course of a 60 minute game? There are plenty of reasons to call a timeout late in a game other than icing a kicker.

                Now if you're talking consecutive timeouts, sure, that's reasonable... much like the new rule college football implemented this year. But a wholesale "no timeout" rule is overreaching while accomplishing nothing conducive to the betterment of the game.
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82812

                  #9
                  There are already a lot of rules in NFL. Adding more rules is not necessary.
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                  • Judge Crater
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-05-20
                    • 2024

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                    Outlawing a defensive timeout in the last 10 seconds is absurd... What good are timeouts if you can't use them as you see fit during the course of a 60 minute game? There are plenty of reasons to call a timeout late in a game other than icing a kicker.
                    Now if you're talking consecutive timeouts, sure, that's reasonable... much like the new rule college football implemented this year. But a wholesale "no timeout" rule is overreaching while accomplishing nothing conducive to the betterment of the game.
                    I agree with you completely on consecutive timeouts.
                    I think 'absurd' might be overstating it a bit. We are only talking about the last ten seconds before the kick. I personally do not remember the last time I saw a defensive timeout called before a FG attempt, except to ice the kicker.
                    I can't think of a reasonable rule change, but I would like to see something done to increase the 7.7% of onside kick recoveries. I suppose they could return to the days of allowing running starts.
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                    • stackz125
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-03-16
                      • 6191

                      #11
                      Makes sense
                      So as long it makes sense in theory it won’t happened in the NFL
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                      • Eddy Munny
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-13-13
                        • 15767

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Judge Crater
                        I agree with you completely on consecutive timeouts.
                        I think 'absurd' might be overstating it a bit. We are only talking about the last ten seconds before the kick. I personally do not remember the last time I saw a defensive timeout called before a FG attempt, except to ice the kicker.
                        I can't think of a reasonable rule change, but I would like to see something done to increase the 7.7% of onside kick recoveries. I suppose they could return to the days of allowing running starts.
                        How does this improve your viewing experience? If a team has a timeout, they should be allowed to use it. Do you really need to get to bed in the next 10 seconds after watching the first 59 minutes and 50 seconds?

                        What if a team has 10 players on the field, or worse yet, 12 players on the field and cannot call a timeout because the other team is in the field goal formation?

                        What if a team lines up for a field goal to tie the game but then executes a fake to win the game instead? How would the referees enforce the rule in this instance?

                        It's needless legislation. People shouldn't need a college degree to comprehend tackle football.
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                        • hehfest
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-28-08
                          • 7934

                          #13
                          No more AUTOMATIC 1st down on defensive holding or any penalty for that matter if they don't reach the yards by the penalty. For example, let's say PI goes to 15 yards if the team has 3rd and 17 it will be 3rd and 2. Tired of these gimme 1st downs where every single dam penalty seems to be on the defense.

                          I would also like to see more offensive PI calls called. In fact, if it's 45 yards down field, I think they should back up the offensive team 45 yards and make it 3rd and 65. LOL. Just sick and tired of how easy they make it for the offense to score and get the 1st downs.

                          ALLOW Coaching Challenges on penalties.

                          Basically, they need to remove or add things to make it more fair for the defense.
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                          • OldBill
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-02-21
                            • 6416

                            #14
                            no timed o t 's as in college play until some wins no punting you have to go 4 downs
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                            • VeggieDog
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-21-09
                              • 7214

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                              I think you should be able to review whatever you want, and the reviews keep coming as long as you're right. You get 2 reviews to lose.
                              Yep. Should be the rule in every sport.
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                              • jackpot269
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-24-07
                                • 12842

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Judge Crater
                                1. Have major and minor PI calls, much like roughing the kicker. No more 50 yard ticky tack PI calls.
                                2. No defensive timeouts in the last 10 seconds when a team is lined up for a FG.
                                3. Fix the defensive launching penalty on FG attempts. If a guy can do it alone fine, penalizing an assist from a teammate(s) would be enough.
                                If you have a timeout you should be able to use it as you wish.
                                Only exception I would be in favor of is back to back, same team timeouts. Other than that it should be at your option.
                                Of course only my opinion
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                                • Judge Crater
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-05-20
                                  • 2024

                                  #17
                                  I feel timeouts to freeze the FG Kicker is bad sportsmanship
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                                  • Eddy Munny
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-13-13
                                    • 15767

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Judge Crater
                                    I feel timeouts to freeze the FG Kicker is bad sportsmanship
                                    If you think that's bad sportsmanship, you should just stop watching sports.

                                    I can think of a laundry list of other things that would qualify as such under your loose definition.
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                                    • Slurry Pumper
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-18-18
                                      • 2811

                                      #19
                                      How about every team has to play at least 1 international game, and you get 2 weeks to make that happen. So we could have Wednesday morning football from Australia. Or a mid afternoon Tuesday game from Pakistan or something. The teams have an odd number of game anyway, and it would make the schedule more fair with 8 home game, 8 road games, and 1 odd game somewhere else in the world.
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                                      • JIBBBY
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 12-10-09
                                        • 83686

                                        #20
                                        Should adopt XFL rules. Would make the NFL more fun to watch.

                                        All kickoffs in the NFL go into the end zone which is extremely boring for starters. Touch backs suck.
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                                        • jackpot269
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-24-07
                                          • 12842

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Judge Crater
                                          I feel timeouts to freeze the FG Kicker is bad sportsmanship
                                          I only have 9 players on the field, its crazy not use a Timeout to get the right lineup in.
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                                          • Judge Crater
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-05-20
                                            • 2024

                                            #22
                                            Arena Football had a cool rule

                                            In the last minute of the game, if an offensive team was ahead and did not make positive yardage on the play, the clock stopped ( no 'Victory Formation').
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                                            • trobin31
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-09-14
                                              • 9853

                                              #23
                                              Only #1 change, I am on board

                                              Timeouts won’t be changed, too much advertising revenue and strategic elements involved

                                              Not sure if unpopular opinion, but these RB basically punching tacklers in the face (stiff arm) ie Henry and McCaffrey just seems contrary to every rule NFL tried to implement the past few years. I’m not against as long as playing field of violence is equal. if the tackler ran up and just punched the ball carrier’s head so their neck torqued, there would be a movie about it.
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                                              • slewfan
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-01-15
                                                • 15928

                                                #24
                                                One thing which totally disturbs me is the rule where “ as long as the ball passes the goal line, it’s a touchdown. Guys diving out of bounds and holding the ball over the line is ridiculous. It’s a bullshat rule if you ask me..

                                                if a receiver catches a ball that is out of bounds, but his feet are in bounds, it a good catch.

                                                JMO
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                                                • Optional
                                                  Administrator
                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 61502

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                                                  How about every team has to play at least 1 international game, and you get 2 weeks to make that happen. So we could have Wednesday morning football from Australia. Or a mid afternoon Tuesday game from Pakistan or something. The teams have an odd number of game anyway, and it would make the schedule more fair with 8 home game, 8 road games, and 1 odd game somewhere else in the world.
                                                  +1

                                                  Friday night game from Australia would be 6.30pm Saturday in Australia. Would get big crowds.
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                                                  • Judge Crater
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-05-20
                                                    • 2024

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                    +1
                                                    Friday night game from Australia would be 6.30pm Saturday in Australia. Would get big crowds.
                                                    I don't think the NFL wants to mess with their free farm system of Friday Night Lights and Saturday NCAA.
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