I'm trying to figure out if there are any opportunities regarding the over/under on their win total for the upcoming season. A part of me feels like they are trying to build with Sam Howell because he is a cheap 5th round pick that was supposed to be a 1st round talent when he had Javonte Williams and Dyami Brown during that great sophomore season he had. Which is smart and I am glad they are being fiscally wise and not overpaying for veteran retreads. But a part of me also feels as if they are tanking. Caleb Williams went to the same high school that I went to, Gonzaga College High School, and he is a DC native. He won the heisman trophy and has incredible talent, high football IQ, and is also a good kid off the field. So it "seems" as if they are putting themselves in position to draft him. The confusing part for me though, is that Ron Rivera is on the hot seat and knows this could be his last year with new ownership coming in. Yet, he rolls with Sam Howell as QB1 anyway which means he has a lot of faith in him. I think Sam Howell could possibly surprise people. He played well against the cowboys and they were actually trying to win since they were still battling the eagles for the nfc east title. But I also want to be in the Caleb Williams sweepstakes since I feel he is a generational talent and you cannot win anything in the NFL without a great QB.
							
						
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	Josherzz1SBR High Roller
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#1Washington win total: over/under 6.5Tags: None - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#2I see Washington losing to Dallas twice, Philly twice, and splitting the two games against the NYG.
So far that's five losses.
They'll lose to NEP at New England.
They'll lose to SEA at Seattle
They'll lose to DEN at Denver
They'll lose to NYJ at New York
They'll lose to LAR at LA
They'll lose to Buffalo
They'll lose to Miami
They'll lose to SF
They'll beat Chicago
They'll beat Atlanta.
Let's say I'm off a couple of games.
Washington will be seven and ten at seasons end.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	johnnyvegas13BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#3Never tie up money a full season on a pkComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	stevenashModerator
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#4^
Agree up to a point.
It's OK if you think you're getting a very good price.
Last season I made nice coin on the Lions OVER.
Generally speaking, I agree though.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Da Manster!SBR Posting Legend
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#5As a diehard Redskin fan growing up in the DMV my whole life I'm just happy and very proud that A$$hole owner Dan Snyder was finally forced to sell the team! Hopefully if gets approved by the league owners ASAP! I know we will never have another Jack Kent Cooke in my lifetime but anything is an immediate upgrade over that bastard that crippled this once proud and great organization and has made them the laughingstock of the league! NO, I will refrain from calling them the Commanders!Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Eddy MunnyBenched
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#6Spoken like a true hamburger.Originally posted by johnnyvegas13Never tie up money a full season on a pk
It's no different than investing, in this case in would be of the short term variety as many people have their money tied up for years on the markets, and season wins or other futures would only hold your money for a few months.
If you handicap a team correctly, a season wins ticket can sometimes be more reliable than a game ticket because you have a broader window for your team to meet expectations whereas a 60 minute contest can be wrecked by a couple of flukes.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	johnnyvegas13BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#7Futures r okOriginally posted by Eddy MunnySpoken like a true hamburger.
It's no different than investing, in this case in would be of the short term variety as many people have their money tied up for years on the markets, and season wins or other futures would only hold your money for a few months.
If you handicap a team correctly, a season wins ticket can sometimes be more reliable than a game ticket because you have a broader window for your team to meet expectations whereas a 60 minute contest can be wrecked by a couple of flukes.
specifically talking about pk betComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Eddy MunnyBenched
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#8The OP is talking about a season wins total.Originally posted by johnnyvegas13Futures r ok
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	strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
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#9I have lived here my whole life.Originally posted by Da Manster!As a diehard Redskin fan growing up in the DMV my whole life I'm just happy and very proud that A$$hole owner Dan Snyder was finally forced to sell the team! Hopefully if gets approved by the league owners ASAP! I know we will never have another Jack Kent Cooke in my lifetime but anything is an immediate upgrade over that bastard that crippled this once proud and great organization and has made them the laughingstock of the league! NO, I will refrain from calling them the Commanders!
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	ChuckyTheGoatBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 04-04-11
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#10Have met a few of the old Redskins:Originally posted by strI have lived here my whole life.
Very well said !
*Mike Nelms and Darryl Grant. Great guys.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#11It's not like I hate on Washington, that schedule is BRUTAL.
Look at the OOD games.
The entire AFC East
Rams
Broncos
SF
SeattleComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	johnnyvegas13BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#12Which is a pk juiced one way or the otherOriginally posted by Eddy MunnyThe OP is talking about a season wins total.
futures can b +1200 for exampleComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Eddy MunnyBenched
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#13Yeah and I said season wins totals can be great investments, they are technically futures... The idea that having your money tied up for a few months somehow makes it inadvisable is utter nonsense.Originally posted by johnnyvegas13Which is a pk juiced one way or the other
futures can b +1200 for example
Futures aren't all plus payouts. They can be even money plays or minus odds just like anything else.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Josherzz1SBR High Roller
- 11-04-12
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#14I see what you're saying in a way. Maybe I'll just divulge that I'm not speculating with life expense money, it's my disposable income/wagering capital. So I don't mind having my money tied up in an investment. Maybe we just have different styles. I do love betting on individual games but I also love the patience game as well with futures bets.Originally posted by johnnyvegas13Never tie up money a full season on a pk
Take the stock market. For example, after Hindenburg Research came out with their thesis and short position against Carl Icahn Enterprises, let's say that you picked up some IEP when the stock dipped all the way to 19. Now it's at 29.
You're in a pretty decent spot right now. You wouldn't mind waiting it out and having the potential to make even more right? There is a chance that the stock could go back to 50 or even 100 in the future. No guarantees of course, but it's a nice calculated risk. The dividend is unlikely to stay at 28.58% as listed but you might get some kind of dividend in the future and you got in at a nice price of 19. So having your money tied up in an investment like this in this scenario would seem to be advantageous.
Another example is when Berkshire Hathaway Class A stock fell to the 70,000 range after the 2008 GFC. It is now 500,000.
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	Josherzz1SBR High Roller
- 11-04-12
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#15Yes, I like your thought process with the posts you made. That's also how I think about things as well.Originally posted by Eddy MunnyYeah and I said season wins totals can be great investments, they are technically futures... The idea that having your money tied up for a few months somehow makes it inadvisable is utter nonsense.
Futures aren't all plus payouts. They can be even money plays or minus odds just like anything else.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Josherzz1SBR High Roller
- 11-04-12
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#16From a betting point of view my head says to lean towards over 6.5 wins since I personally feel as if Howell is being slept on a bit. I could be dead wrong though and maybe after teams get more tape on him, they figure him out and exploit his weaknesses. But that is where I'm leaning right now.
From a fandom point of view, my heart wants us to suck really badly so that we can draft Caleb Williams, lol.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	DrunkHorseplayerSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-15-10
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#17Tough to get a line on Howell because the Cowboys didn't give a shit in the last game of the season; they knew that the Eagles, as 14 pt. favorites, weren't going to lose and therefore their own game meant nothing. The schedule looks tough but that can change in a minute, I don't see the NFC East being near as good this year. Gun to head, I'd go over but if Howell gets hurt then it's Jacoby Brissett and bad news.Comment 
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