Washington win total: over/under 6.5

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  • Josherzz1
    SBR High Roller
    • 11-04-12
    • 113

    #1
    Washington win total: over/under 6.5
    I'm trying to figure out if there are any opportunities regarding the over/under on their win total for the upcoming season. A part of me feels like they are trying to build with Sam Howell because he is a cheap 5th round pick that was supposed to be a 1st round talent when he had Javonte Williams and Dyami Brown during that great sophomore season he had. Which is smart and I am glad they are being fiscally wise and not overpaying for veteran retreads. But a part of me also feels as if they are tanking. Caleb Williams went to the same high school that I went to, Gonzaga College High School, and he is a DC native. He won the heisman trophy and has incredible talent, high football IQ, and is also a good kid off the field. So it "seems" as if they are putting themselves in position to draft him. The confusing part for me though, is that Ron Rivera is on the hot seat and knows this could be his last year with new ownership coming in. Yet, he rolls with Sam Howell as QB1 anyway which means he has a lot of faith in him. I think Sam Howell could possibly surprise people. He played well against the cowboys and they were actually trying to win since they were still battling the eagles for the nfc east title. But I also want to be in the Caleb Williams sweepstakes since I feel he is a generational talent and you cannot win anything in the NFL without a great QB.
  • stevenash
    Moderator
    • 01-17-11
    • 65563

    #2
    I see Washington losing to Dallas twice, Philly twice, and splitting the two games against the NYG.
    So far that's five losses.

    They'll lose to NEP at New England.
    They'll lose to SEA at Seattle
    They'll lose to DEN at Denver
    They'll lose to NYJ at New York
    They'll lose to LAR at LA

    They'll lose to Buffalo
    They'll lose to Miami
    They'll lose to SF

    They'll beat Chicago
    They'll beat Atlanta.

    Let's say I'm off a couple of games.
    Washington will be seven and ten at seasons end.
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    • johnnyvegas13
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      • 05-21-15
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      #3
      Never tie up money a full season on a pk
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      • stevenash
        Moderator
        • 01-17-11
        • 65563

        #4
        ^
        Agree up to a point.
        It's OK if you think you're getting a very good price.

        Last season I made nice coin on the Lions OVER.
        Generally speaking, I agree though.
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        • Da Manster!
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-13-07
          • 17720

          #5
          As a diehard Redskin fan growing up in the DMV my whole life I'm just happy and very proud that A$$hole owner Dan Snyder was finally forced to sell the team! Hopefully if gets approved by the league owners ASAP! I know we will never have another Jack Kent Cooke in my lifetime but anything is an immediate upgrade over that bastard that crippled this once proud and great organization and has made them the laughingstock of the league! NO, I will refrain from calling them the Commanders!
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          • Eddy Munny
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-13-13
            • 15767

            #6
            Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
            Never tie up money a full season on a pk
            Spoken like a true hamburger.

            It's no different than investing, in this case in would be of the short term variety as many people have their money tied up for years on the markets, and season wins or other futures would only hold your money for a few months.

            If you handicap a team correctly, a season wins ticket can sometimes be more reliable than a game ticket because you have a broader window for your team to meet expectations whereas a 60 minute contest can be wrecked by a couple of flukes.
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            • johnnyvegas13
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              • 05-21-15
              • 27897

              #7
              Originally posted by Eddy Munny
              Spoken like a true hamburger.

              It's no different than investing, in this case in would be of the short term variety as many people have their money tied up for years on the markets, and season wins or other futures would only hold your money for a few months.

              If you handicap a team correctly, a season wins ticket can sometimes be more reliable than a game ticket because you have a broader window for your team to meet expectations whereas a 60 minute contest can be wrecked by a couple of flukes.
              Futures r ok

              specifically talking about pk bet
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              • Eddy Munny
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-13-13
                • 15767

                #8
                Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                Futures r ok

                specifically talking about pk bet
                The OP is talking about a season wins total.
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                • str
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 11768

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Da Manster!
                  As a diehard Redskin fan growing up in the DMV my whole life I'm just happy and very proud that A$$hole owner Dan Snyder was finally forced to sell the team! Hopefully if gets approved by the league owners ASAP! I know we will never have another Jack Kent Cooke in my lifetime but anything is an immediate upgrade over that bastard that crippled this once proud and great organization and has made them the laughingstock of the league! NO, I will refrain from calling them the Commanders!
                  I have lived here my whole life.

                  Very well said !
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                  • ChuckyTheGoat
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                    • 04-04-11
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by str
                    I have lived here my whole life.

                    Very well said !
                    Have met a few of the old Redskins:

                    *Mike Nelms and Darryl Grant. Great guys.
                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65563

                      #11
                      It's not like I hate on Washington, that schedule is BRUTAL.

                      Look at the OOD games.

                      The entire AFC East

                      Rams
                      Broncos
                      SF
                      Seattle
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                      • johnnyvegas13
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                        • 05-21-15
                        • 27897

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                        The OP is talking about a season wins total.
                        Which is a pk juiced one way or the other

                        futures can b +1200 for example
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                        • Eddy Munny
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-13-13
                          • 15767

                          #13
                          Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                          Which is a pk juiced one way or the other

                          futures can b +1200 for example
                          Yeah and I said season wins totals can be great investments, they are technically futures... The idea that having your money tied up for a few months somehow makes it inadvisable is utter nonsense.

                          Futures aren't all plus payouts. They can be even money plays or minus odds just like anything else.
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                          • Josherzz1
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 11-04-12
                            • 113

                            #14
                            Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                            Never tie up money a full season on a pk
                            I see what you're saying in a way. Maybe I'll just divulge that I'm not speculating with life expense money, it's my disposable income/wagering capital. So I don't mind having my money tied up in an investment. Maybe we just have different styles. I do love betting on individual games but I also love the patience game as well with futures bets.

                            Take the stock market. For example, after Hindenburg Research came out with their thesis and short position against Carl Icahn Enterprises, let's say that you picked up some IEP when the stock dipped all the way to 19. Now it's at 29.


                            You're in a pretty decent spot right now. You wouldn't mind waiting it out and having the potential to make even more right? There is a chance that the stock could go back to 50 or even 100 in the future. No guarantees of course, but it's a nice calculated risk. The dividend is unlikely to stay at 28.58% as listed but you might get some kind of dividend in the future and you got in at a nice price of 19. So having your money tied up in an investment like this in this scenario would seem to be advantageous.

                            Another example is when Berkshire Hathaway Class A stock fell to the 70,000 range after the 2008 GFC. It is now 500,000.
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                            • Josherzz1
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 11-04-12
                              • 113

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                              Yeah and I said season wins totals can be great investments, they are technically futures... The idea that having your money tied up for a few months somehow makes it inadvisable is utter nonsense.

                              Futures aren't all plus payouts. They can be even money plays or minus odds just like anything else.
                              Yes, I like your thought process with the posts you made. That's also how I think about things as well.
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                              • Josherzz1
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 11-04-12
                                • 113

                                #16
                                From a betting point of view my head says to lean towards over 6.5 wins since I personally feel as if Howell is being slept on a bit. I could be dead wrong though and maybe after teams get more tape on him, they figure him out and exploit his weaknesses. But that is where I'm leaning right now.

                                From a fandom point of view, my heart wants us to suck really badly so that we can draft Caleb Williams, lol.
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                                • DrunkHorseplayer
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 05-15-10
                                  • 7719

                                  #17
                                  Tough to get a line on Howell because the Cowboys didn't give a shit in the last game of the season; they knew that the Eagles, as 14 pt. favorites, weren't going to lose and therefore their own game meant nothing. The schedule looks tough but that can change in a minute, I don't see the NFC East being near as good this year. Gun to head, I'd go over but if Howell gets hurt then it's Jacoby Brissett and bad news.
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