Pittsburgh got cheated

[RavensFan2k3]

Wow

[Goatboy]

New England and Belichek are the biggest cheaters on the planet

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Yup

[greypimps]

clearly he didnt have possession.. watch replay.. gotta hold the ball when going down...thats was a scary one for me....

[Seattle Slew]

Not sure on the rule, but once he gets one knee down and brakes the plain with the ball, isn't it a TD? He had control to get over the goal line, then bobbled it going to the ground. I thought the one knee trumps that control to the ground rule.

[NardVa]

Pitt was up 24-16 going into the 4th... how do you not win...

[PAULYPOKER]

In case you are wondering why the refs overturned a clear TD...........

look no further

12/17 10:11 am	-2½ -103	5315	55.00%	$584,650	35.94%	+2½ -107	4416	45.00%	$1,042,176	64.06%
12/17 09:49 am	-2½ -106	1669	57.00%	$140,196	26.51%	+2½ -104	1262	43.00%	$388,696	73.49%
12/17 01:06 am	-2½ -110	1598	57.00%	$129,438	25.73%	+2½ +100	1209	43.00%	$373,581	74.27%

[mtofell]

He was clearly short of the goal line with his knee down so it wasn't going to be a TD anyway. Of course, there's a big difference between the 10 and the 1. I was watching with the sound off (long story) and didn't realize they were looking at possession all the way to the ground. It sure looked like a catch but short of the goal line. All this micro-managing of replays really has screwed the game up IMO. I liked it better a generation ago when if it looks like a catch, it's a catch.

[BigdaddyQH]

If you think that he had possession, you do not know the rules. All of you losers bitch and moan about the calls. YOU are the people who make the wrong call. If you lose, it is because you wager on the wrong team. The line in Vegas was 3. If you lost because you got some ragtag line off shore, that is on YOU.

[Renegades]

He was clearly short of the goal line with his knee down so it wasn't going to be a TD anyway. Of course, there's a big difference between the 10 and the 1. I was watching with the sound off (long story) and didn't realize they were looking at possession all the way to the ground. It sure looked like a catch but short of the goal line. All this micro-managing of replays really has screwed the game up IMO. I liked it better a generation ago when if it looks like a catch, it's a catch.

wrong. nobody touched him while he was down so it wasn't going to be marked short. you have to be touched while down

[Seattle Slew]

These coaches will never learn their lesson. Pittsburgh should have gone on 4th and 2 from their own 38 with 2:15 left. No coach will ever do it, right? Everyone in the universe knows you can't stop Brady when he has 4 downs to use. If you don't get it, OK, you leave NE on your 40. So what. If they score, it gives you more time to come back. But if you convert, you most likely win the game.

Pitt punted the ball and Brady was at the Pitt 40 in 2 plays.

Pitt was up 24-16 going into the 4th... how do you not win...

[smith131]

Not sure on the rule, but once he gets one knee down and brakes the plain with the ball, isn't it a TD? He had control to get over the goal line, then bobbled it going to the ground. I thought the one knee trumps that control to the ground rule.

First it’s breaks not brakes. There is a difference, look it up.

Secondly as a receiver you have to maintain possession all the way through the catch. It’s called the Calvin Johnson rule. I don’t agree with it and think it’s the dumbest rule ever because as a runner you can throw the ball across the goal line.

Thirdly, Tomlin is an idiot. You got the lucky 70 yard run and after all the shit you had a chance for overtime and home field advantage. But Tomlin being the idiot that he is decides to go for it and it cost him.

So no the Steelers didn’t get cheated. They lost the game because their coach is a moron.

[Renegades]

NFL is so ridiculous with all of their stupid rules. you need a goddamn law degree to decipher what the rule means. I would be furious if I bet Pitt or the over

[jtoler]

These coaches will never learn their lesson. Pittsburgh should have gone on 4th and 2 from their own 38 with 2:15 left. No coach will ever do it, right? Everyone in the universe knows you can't stop Brady when he has 4 downs to use. If you don't get it, OK, you leave NE on your 40. So what. If they score, it gives you more time to come back. But if you convert, you most likely win the game.

Pitt punted the ball and Brady was at the Pitt 40 in 2 plays.

Was Pitt ahead then?

[Seattle Slew]

Got it, but it's "coach" is a moron. Look it up.

First it’s breaks not brakes. There is a difference, look it up.

So no the Steelers didn’t get cheated. They lost the game because their cia h is a moron.

[smith131]

He was clearly short of the goal line with his knee down so it wasn't going to be a TD anyway. Of course, there's a big difference between the 10 and the 1. I was watching with the sound off (long story) and didn't realize they were looking at possession all the way to the ground. It sure looked like a catch but short of the goal line. All this micro-managing of replays really has screwed the game up IMO. I liked it better a generation ago when if it looks like a catch, it's a catch.

His knee was down short but he was not touched. If the ball didn’t move in his hands it would of been a TD

[dwatersalec]

Not sure on the rule, but once he gets one knee down and brakes the plain with the ball, isn't it a TD? He had control to get over the goal line, then bobbled it going to the ground. I thought the one knee trumps that control to the ground rule.

He still hadn't completed possession.

[Seattle Slew]

Yes, 24-19, 2:15 left, 4th and 1 and half or 2 yards. Obviously, every coach will punt there. Even Romo said you can't beat Brady unless you play aggressive. Did anyone think Brady wasn't driving for a TD after the punt? Houston did the same thing in Foxboro, Obrien kicked a FG on 4th and 1 when a first down would end the game, and he went up 5. Brady then drove the field in a minute to win the game.

Was Pitt ahead then?

[sevenbar10]

Why not kick the field goal and play for OT Home field advantage and A little momentum going?

[mtofell]

wrong. nobody touched him while he was down so it wasn't going to be marked short. you have to be touched while down

My bad..... forgot about that. I'm so programmed to look at where the ball is when the knee goes down at the goal line. 99.9% of the time there are 8 defenders hanging off him.

[PAULYPOKER]

He was on the fukkin ground when he caught it,,,,,,,,,,

His football move was his reach (after he caught it as it wouldn't of been possible if he did not have control the ball) over the goal line........

Once Ball breaks plane there is no such thing as a fumble period DOT end......................

[smith131]

Got it, but it's "coach" is a moron. Look it up.

Lmao, stupid auto correct. You got me. But at least I know the difference between car brakes and breaking the plane

[YOUNGBUCK]

Yes, 24-19, 2:15 left, 4th and 1 and half or 2 yards. Obviously, every coach will punt there. Even Romo said you can't beat Brady unless you play aggressive. Did anyone think Brady wasn't driving for a TD after the punt? Houston did the same thing in Foxboro, Obrien kicked a FG on 4th and 1 when a first down would end the game, and he went up 5. Brady then drove the field in a minute to win the game.

And same as Houston game guy drops easy pick to win the game

[smith131]

He was on the fukkin ground when he caught it,,,,,,,,,,

His football move was his reach (after he caught it as it wouldn't of been possible if he did not have control the ball) over the goal line........

Once Ball breaks plane there is no such thing as a fumble period DOT end......................

It wasn’t ruled a fumble. It was ruled he didn’t maintain possession as the ball moved before he completed the process.

It is the DUMBEST rule ever and needs to be changed

[Dr. Fager]

Up 8, Pitt went conservative. 2nd and 23, off tackle for 4 yds. Played into Belichik's hands. Tomlin and his OC take the blame along with Ben's meltdown at the end.

[PAULYPOKER]

It wasn’t ruled a fumble. It was ruled he didn’t maintain possession as the ball moved before he completed the process.

It is the DUMBEST rule ever and needs to be changed

Answer this how are you able to reach across the plane if you are not in control of the ball?

[Yankfan4life2]

Absolutely cheated and I was a patriots' backer. Steelers will avenge their loss in the afc championship game tho.

[PAULYPOKER]

Up 8, Pitt went conservative. 2nd and 23, off tackle for 4 yds. Played into Belichik's hands. Tomlin and his OC take the blame along with Ben's meltdown at the end.

That to.......

fukkin defense coudn't stop Brady almost the entire game..........

And they cool the engines on the offense which was the only thing keeping them in the game....
\never did like Haley.....

And neither does Ben

[Heltah Skeltah]

Up 8, Pitt went conservative. 2nd and 23, off tackle for 4 yds. Played into Belichik's hands. Tomlin and his OC take the blame along with Ben's meltdown at the end.

Spot on

[jtoler]

Wonder what Brady's record is against Ben.

[smith131]

Answer this how are you able to reach across the plane if you are not in control of the ball?

Look I’m on your side. But it’s the Calvin Johnson rule. Did you see that game against Chicago? Clearly a touch down but ruled not a catch because he didn’t maintain possession all the way through the process.

I’ve seen Cam and RB’s just break the plane and then the ball gets swatted away. But it’s still ruled a TD because they are runners.

It’s the dumbest rule and needs to be changed.

I say as a receiver if you make a circus catch and the ball moves six times but you come down with it without the ball touching the ground it should be a TD. But with the rule the way it is if the ball moves just a little it’s not a catch

[HockeyRocks]

He was clearly short of the goal line with his knee down so it wasn't going to be a TD anyway. Of course, there's a big difference between the 10 and the 1. I was watching with the sound off (long story) and didn't realize they were looking at possession all the way to the ground. It sure looked like a catch but short of the goal line. All this micro-managing of replays really has screwed the game up IMO. I liked it better a generation ago when if it looks like a catch, it's a catch.

Correct, knee was down, however, he hadn't been touched by a defensive player.....The play was changed because they said he didn't control the ball...The knee had nothing to do with the determination of the play..

[JayDr3am]

saved my under full game and 2H so im not mad at it, but holy shit patriots always sneak away.. and the -2.5 guys covered lol

[smith131]

Wonder what Brady's record is against Ben.

Brady is now 9-2 straight up against Ben

[smith131]

saved my under full game and 2H so im not mad at it, but holy shit patriots always sneak away.. and the -2.5 guys covered lol

I had them at -2.5