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  • JerseyGodFather
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    • 01-23-17
    • 1494

    #141
    Well done bank
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    • 2daBank
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      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #142
      Appreciate the kind words guys.. hopefully we can get chargers tonight and end w really strong week..
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      • Capybara
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        • 08-17-08
        • 11803

        #143
        Bank, great start yesterday! Tailed a couple of your totals as we already had the same sides. Hit my Buf/Jets under too, good times.

        I'm already on Chargers same as you, but how do you break down the first game? I've got no leans really.
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        • 2daBank
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          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #144
          Originally posted by Capybara
          Bank, great start yesterday! Tailed a couple of your totals as we already had the same sides. Hit my Buf/Jets under too, good times.

          I'm already on Chargers same as you, but how do you break down the first game? I've got no leans really.
          I actually think the value on minny, imo they a better team so think only laying 3 for home field a little short. Problem is while minny better at most positions saints obviously have vastly superior qb and I'm hesitant to back Bradford sorry ass vs brees. Maybe my dislike of him getting in way but man I think he sucks.. think we talking game that should be played under the total, Low 20s type game so don't think really much value or cushion to be worth it.,
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          • SEAHAWKHARRY
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            • 11-29-07
            • 26068

            #145
            Took chargers +3 bank
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            • SEAHAWKHARRY
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 11-29-07
              • 26068

              #146
              Took Minny -3 bank
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              • 2daBank
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                • 01-26-09
                • 88966

                #147
                I want to play minny harry I just can't stand Bradford.
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                • shocka1212
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                  • 10-06-12
                  • 16788

                  #148
                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                  Always glad I can help bro!

                  I been so ready for this now I still can't sleep and have already started digging into next weeks card at totals and dfs plays, lol..

                  Little curious how things will shake out after a day like today with viirtually every game going under.. I've always loved week 2 as you can usually find a ton of value just cause overreactions from week 1 are usually so out of whack. The majority just doesn't seem to grasp the concept that this a week to week league and what happens week 1 isn't something to take all that seriously in capping next weeks card.
                  You're absolutely right. I capped it, and had $100 on a 4 game parlay. Cappd 10 games in total though to try and gauge what trends I'm going to bet this year
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                  • 2daBank
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                    • 01-26-09
                    • 88966

                    #149
                    Originally posted by shocka1212
                    You're absolutely right. I capped it, and had $100 on a 4 game parlay. Cappd 10 games in total though to try and gauge what trends I'm going to bet this year
                    Skins might end up being solid at lambs., think folks might be taking that blowout of colts little too seriously and at same time down on skins..
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                    • survive
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-08-11
                      • 2388

                      #150
                      Bradford actually looks pretty damn good tonight
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                      • 2daBank
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                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #151
                        Originally posted by survive
                        Bradford actually looks pretty damn good tonight
                        Real freaking good. Never seen him drop dimes while getting hit before. If id have only known. Knew Vikings were far superior squad.

                        You gotta be loving the Vikings team total! They will win 10 easy if he plays like this.
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                        • survive
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-08-11
                          • 2388

                          #152
                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                          Real freaking good. Never seen him drop dimes while getting hit before. If id have only known. Knew Vikings were far superior squad.

                          You gotta be loving the Vikings team total! They will win 10 easy if he plays like this.
                          Haha I was just messing with ya, we both know he's been a checkdown specialist for most of his career. Difference this year is he might actually have some time to throw behind that line. Let's get this chargers money buddy!
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                          • 2daBank
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                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #153
                            Originally posted by survive
                            Haha I was just messing with ya, we both know he's been a checkdown specialist for most of his career. Difference this year is he might actually have some time to throw behind that line. Let's get this chargers money buddy!
                            No he has looked amazing for real. Kicking myself for letting him scare me off the play cause as I said there was a Ton of value in minny tonight. I thought line was way short but let my Bradford hatred keep me off it.
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                            • Ryermkd
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                              • 01-11-12
                              • 3739

                              #154
                              Sorry Bank popping a bet on Denver, the old man is 1-off a 5-team parlay for some nice change. Gotta support!
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                              • 2daBank
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                                • 01-26-09
                                • 88966

                                #155
                                Originally posted by Ryermkd
                                Sorry Bank popping a bet on Denver, the old man is 1-off a 5-team parlay for some nice change. Gotta support!
                                All good buddy, probably make more sense to hedge tho, chargers the better team.
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                                • Ryermkd
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                                  • 01-11-12
                                  • 3739

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                  All good buddy, probably make more sense to hedge tho, chargers the better team.
                                  Yeah... tell us about it, we never hedge and missed ample opportunities to do so...

                                  So many 1-offs on 4-6 Team parlays with the local-lottery. Think it's only 20-25 bucks though, still a good 4-5bills if it cashes
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                                  • 2daBank
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                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by Ryermkd
                                    Yeah... tell us about it, we never hedge and missed ample opportunities to do so...

                                    So many 1-offs on 4-6 Team parlays with the local-lottery. Think it's only 20-25 bucks though, still a good 4-5bills if it cashes
                                    Honestly I'd probably put 300 of it on chargers ml but that just me.. I don't blame yea for not hedging I don't often cause I believe in my play. I just don't like this so easy for me to say. Lol..

                                    wish I could say I'm rooting for ya'll but I'm not, lol. Let's just say if I lose I'll b glad ya won, kinda.. lol
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                                    • Ryermkd
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                                      • 01-11-12
                                      • 3739

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                      Honestly I'd probably put 300 of it on chargers ml but that just me.. I don't blame yea for not hedging I don't often cause I believe in my play. I just don't like this so easy for me to say. Lol..

                                      wish I could say I'm rooting for ya'll but I'm not, lol. Let's just say if I lose I'll b glad ya won, kinda.. lol
                                      It pushed. Nice hit Bank, happy medium I guess, we both win!
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                                      • 2daBank
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                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #159
                                        Originally Posted by 2daBank


                                        Atl/chi u51 (2x) ✅

                                        Pit/cle u47 (1x)✅

                                        Panthers/niners ov47.5 (1x)❌

                                        Chargers +3.5 (1x)✅

                                        Titans -2.5 (1x)❌

                                        Eagles -1 (1x) ✅

                                        lions/bills teaser (1x) ✅

                                        I know chargers missing that prob caused some of you to push but since we got on early w the hook I'm so glad I didn't have to sweat out ot even tho i think chargers would have won..

                                        Concludes week w 5-2 plus with the sunday night degen parlay has us up little over 4u.
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                                        • 2daBank
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                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by Ryermkd
                                          It pushed. Nice hit Bank, happy medium I guess, we both win!
                                          Yea that works for me since I had the hook
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #161
                                            Week 2

                                            Titans/jags u43.5 (1x).. shoulda played this last night when it was 44, would have been a 2x play but gonna leave it at 1u here and leave possibility of maybe taking 1st half also.

                                            Last season both these games were shootouts with home team blowing out visitor both times. No way do I see that happening again here.

                                            Under jags new leadership it very clear they gonna do everything in their power to limit bortles exposure trying to avoid all his dumb ass turnovers. He threw 20 passes last week and I suspect if the coach has it his way he won't be throwing more than that too often!! Jags gonna be pure ground and pound with fornette leading the way but ivory will get 5-10 carries as well. Jags can go this route and attempt to win low scoring games thanks to a defense that could very well be among the best in the league.

                                            Not sure wtf titans were thinking last week game plan wise, 1st with the onside kick to start game then letting Mariota throw it more than 40x while basically forgetting this a smash mouth team at its best. One would assume they would take a look at themselves this week and get back to that style as no way do they want Mariota throwing that many times vs jags pass rush and those very good corners.

                                            Without Robison jags don't have the weapons, the qb, or the desire to try and take advantage of titans suspect corners. Jags gonna continue tryin to establish their new identity as a power rushing football team, while they will have success at times this gonna be a offense titans d can get lot of stops against.

                                            While not trying to overreact to week 1 I just don't see that titans offense I saw last week against a porous oak defense lighting up the scoreboard in jax. Nor do I expect them to even attempt to look the same as they need to get back to their zone read exotic power rushing attack.

                                            All that is saying this game is gonna have a ton of rushing attempts, lot of punts, and the clock should be moving quickly when these teams do move the football.. who wins this game I have no idea, what I do know is i don't think it gonna take more than 20-21 points to do so. Game reeks of a 20-17 type game. Don't want to let number fall any further as I think the high side would be 43 if they happen to tie up at 20 and next fg wins. That my high side, I think there a great possibility it ends on 37 or even lower..
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                                            • Ryermkd
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                                              • 01-11-12
                                              • 3739

                                              #162
                                              20-17 sounds about right, so does 23-16. Fournette scares me, sure the defense is solid as well... but two solid RBs in Jacksonville make for a good ground and pound. The more I think about this game, the more I like the Titans.
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                                              • Knamelis
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-02-13
                                                • 169

                                                #163
                                                Bank, your thoughts on u47.5 in PHI v KC? Philly struggled to run the ball against Wash and anticipate the same against a Chiefs front at home. Moreover, I don't see the Phily o-line giving Wentz the protection needed to beat a very good Chiefs secondary despite losing Berry. On the flip side, I came away impressed by the Eagles defense limiting Cousin and Co. (granted with new weapons) to 240 yards passing (6.0avg) and 64 yards rushing; with the LB group looking to be a strength. Does the KC game vs NE in prime time give us some value here ?
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                                                • 2daBank
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                  • 88966

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by Knamelis
                                                  Bank, your thoughts on u47.5 in PHI v KC? Philly struggled to run the ball against Wash and anticipate the same against a Chiefs front at home. Moreover, I don't see the Phily o-line giving Wentz the protection needed to beat a very good Chiefs secondary despite losing Berry. On the flip side, I came away impressed by the Eagles defense limiting Cousin and Co. (granted with new weapons) to 240 yards passing (6.0avg) and 64 yards rushing; with the LB group looking to be a strength. Does the KC game vs NE in prime time give us some value here ?
                                                  Dude phillys oline is pretty good, sure kc might get to him a few times but I don't think it a thing where he gonna face constant pressure, although I'm sure crowd noise cause them few problems.

                                                  I kinda expect both offenses to put up 20ish then we have 2 of the best special teams units and both defenses are incredibly opportunistic so I'd almost expect at least 1 td coming off a return of some kind. Really think both defenses weakness is giving up big plays in the secondary and there no shortage of playmakers in this game. Think when the qbs have time there will be plays to be made down the field.

                                                  I'm not all the way finished looking at this game but initially I'd lean towards a 27-23 type game, I still have work to do, this number just my initial lean as what I do Sunday night before seeing lines I go down next weeks games and put a number and spread next to each then use that as my jumping off point when I start digging deeper. Often times my initial numbers end up being way off what I come up with after capping game completely so I'm not ready to say 50 my number here just initial lean.

                                                  Hope that all makes sense, gonna do lot of work on card this afternoon/evening and will have my final numbers on most the card hopefully.
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                                                  • 2daBank
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                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                    • 88966

                                                    #165
                                                    I would love to see that gmen line continue to get bet down to a fg be awesome.. typical overreaction by folks there as they must be forgetting how poorly stafford's record is when being taken out of the dome.

                                                    I hate NyG and certainly thought all the preseason hype of them being the team to beat in the east was beyond silly. That said the defense is legit and again when lions offense goes outside it doesn't fare nearly as well. If im having problems w pass protection I'm happy to see lions less than ferocious pass rush come to town. Outta be more separation by gmen WRs this week so even Eli outta be ok here.,

                                                    Don't take them yet as line has already come all way down to -3.5,, I'm ok there and would play but think worth waiting and seeing if a -3 ever pops.
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                                                    • shocka1212
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-06-12
                                                      • 16788

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                      I would love to see that gmen line continue to get bet down to a fg be awesome.. typical overreaction by folks there as they must be forgetting how poorly stafford's record is when being taken out of the dome.

                                                      I hate NyG and certainly thought all the preseason hype of them being the team to beat in the east was beyond silly. That said the defense is legit and again when lions offense goes outside it doesn't fare nearly as well. If im having problems w pass protection I'm happy to see lions less than ferocious pass rush come to town. Outta be more separation by gmen WRs this week so even Eli outta be ok here.,

                                                      Don't take them yet as line has already come all way down to -3.5,, I'm ok there and would play but think worth waiting and seeing if a -3 ever pops.
                                                      bingo... giants - is the play... hoping it drops to 2.5. not going to pound it, but going to wager it. Giants defense is considerably better than Arizona. I think the O-line has been shuffled so much that its going to take time for them to be serviceable. everyone overreacting here. they're a good team, just need to fix the o-line which has been done before...
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                                                      • 2daBank
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                                                        • 01-26-09
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                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                        bingo... giants - is the play... hoping it drops to 2.5. not going to pound it, but going to wager it. Giants defense is considerably better than Arizona. I think the O-line has been shuffled so much that its going to take time for them to be serviceable. everyone overreacting here. they're a good team, just need to fix the o-line which has been done before...
                                                        I can't imagine it gets bet under I fg but guess it possible.. I won't even wait for that the minute I see a -3 I'm gonna jump on it. Hell if I have to I'd play it up to -4 I think. Kinda odd game for me to make a line on as I think on nuetral teams pretty close but have to put extra points in the line not for home field as much as for lions being outside., that makes it little unusual as normally I make a line without hf factored then give what I think particular home field is worth and it would be same whichever team was at home, in this case i would actually make lions favored at home as I just have a huge discrepancy for lions home/away.
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                                                        • 2daBank
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                                                          • 01-26-09
                                                          • 88966

                                                          #168
                                                          Another line I'm waiting on skins. Missed the +3 so hoping there enough rams love to push it back up.. think this another overreaction line to lambs whipping the hapless colts and skins struggling vs a very good probably underrated philly d..

                                                          Just don't think you can reasonably make this even on a neutral field. Sure rams look to be headed the right direction but I don't think they have leaped up over the likes of the skins.

                                                          The rams oline is still a issue, let's remember against a soft colts defense gurley barely averaged 2ypc! Skins bring a much better defense to la and despite looking great last week let's temper our expectations on Goff, no ones opinion I respect thought this kid was a franchise qb coming out of Cal. Now maybe he can develop into that as he now has weapons and a very good offensive minded coach but carving up colts under no pressure in no way says he has arrived imo.

                                                          Skins offense is gonna improve every week as the new pieces get acclimated with each other. While I'm not sure they will be better or not (just don't know yet) I do think they should be better in the red zone which was a real struggle for them last season. Pryor should become a better weapon in red zone than the small Djax or garçon.

                                                          Rams don't have a lot of wr depth or big play ability outside Watkins and we know skins capable of taking away a teams best wr. Skins struggle if you have a second or 3rd option that a deep threat. Kupp a good security blanket for goff but he not a game breaker and also came up gimpy last week, if his status is downgraded rams would be in real trouble.
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                                                          • 2daBank
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                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #169
                                                            Man if this Houston/cincy game was on Sunday I be all over this over.. I gotta believe their "performances" last week played a big role in this total cause it feels 5 points too low imo.. problem is as most you know I despise the thu night shitfest and pretty much never play anything other than the under when opportunity presents itself.

                                                            Far as game itself we know bungals offense better than it showed last week. I have never liked dalton but he capable of playing decent. Half the Texans defense got banged up last week with watt, clowny, Cushing, and couple others making their way onto injury report, playing on a short week this a good spot for bungals to catch this defense imo. Not only do I think cincy will score some points but dalton in prime time always a chance he hands some points to the other team..

                                                            Speaking of turnovers Texans are going with the rookie at qb, they pretty much have to cause at least Watson can move and he be running for his life behind this oline. Luckily for Houston cincy defense is a shell of its former self so this not a horrible team to face as they don't have nearly the pass rush or playmakers of the jags..concerning for hou is other than getting banged up on d all their te's got injured last week! That a problem but they should prob considered putting another big body out there to help the left tackle anyways!

                                                            There gonna be plays to be had when Watson buys time, nobody on cincy capable of locking down Hopkins who Watson seemed to be locked in on. Watson's mobility will also open up more rushing lanes for miller and it was obvious you can run on cincy as balty did w a rusty flacco not even being a big threat to pass..

                                                            In the end I think both teams will show better than their disgusting week 1 performances. 5 tds and a fg what it take to get to 38 and doesn't seem like that unreasonable of a ask especially when you consider both qbs capable of giving up a turnover for a score!
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                                                            • Ryermkd
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                                                              • 01-11-12
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                                                              #170
                                                              looks like we on the same page, Is it crazy to wait for +7 to +7.5 HOU? I'm willing to give the rookie a shot I think, despite knowing Bengals will come out strong. They looked really BAD.
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                                                              • Ryermkd
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                                                                • 01-11-12
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                                                                #171
                                                                Think Watt is fine although it sucks to bust up your finger lol... I might be wrong.
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                                                                • 2daBank
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                                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                                  • 88966

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by Ryermkd
                                                                  looks like we on the same page, Is it crazy to wait for +7 to +7.5 HOU? I'm willing to give the rookie a shot I think, despite knowing Bengals will come out strong. They looked really BAD.
                                                                  If you made me play it I'd prob take the points but I hate thu night and Texans got really banged up last week. Shitty time for them to be stuck playing this bs game in short week.
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                                                                  • shocka1212
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-06-12
                                                                    • 16788

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by Ryermkd
                                                                    Think Watt is fine although it sucks to bust up your finger lol... I might be wrong.
                                                                    that defense is better without him...
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                                                                    • 2daBank
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                                      • 88966

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by Ryermkd
                                                                      Think Watt is fine although it sucks to bust up your finger lol... I might be wrong.
                                                                      Shit he wasn't only one. Clowney, Cushing, and several others I saw got banged up. Havnt checked injury reports but short week I wouldn't expect any of them to be 100%
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                                                                      • 2daBank
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                                        • 88966

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                        Week 2

                                                                        Titans/jags u43.5 (1x).. shoulda played this last night when it was 44, would have been a 2x play but gonna leave it at 1u here and leave possibility of maybe taking 1st half also.

                                                                        Last season both these games were shootouts with home team blowing out visitor both times. No way do I see that happening again here.

                                                                        Under jags new leadership it very clear they gonna do everything in their power to limit bortles exposure trying to avoid all his dumb ass turnovers. He threw 20 passes last week and I suspect if the coach has it his way he won't be throwing more than that too often!! Jags gonna be pure ground and pound with fornette leading the way but ivory will get 5-10 carries as well. Jags can go this route and attempt to win low scoring games thanks to a defense that could very well be among the best in the league.

                                                                        Not sure wtf titans were thinking last week game plan wise, 1st with the onside kick to start game then letting Mariota throw it more than 40x while basically forgetting this a smash mouth team at its best. One would assume they would take a look at themselves this week and get back to that style as no way do they want Mariota throwing that many times vs jags pass rush and those very good corners.

                                                                        Without Robison jags don't have the weapons, the qb, or the desire to try and take advantage of titans suspect corners. Jags gonna continue tryin to establish their new identity as a power rushing football team, while they will have success at times this gonna be a offense titans d can get lot of stops against.

                                                                        While not trying to overreact to week 1 I just don't see that titans offense I saw last week against a porous oak defense lighting up the scoreboard in jax. Nor do I expect them to even attempt to look the same as they need to get back to their zone read exotic power rushing attack.

                                                                        All that is saying this game is gonna have a ton of rushing attempts, lot of punts, and the clock should be moving quickly when these teams do move the football.. who wins this game I have no idea, what I do know is i don't think it gonna take more than 20-21 points to do so. Game reeks of a 20-17 type game. Don't want to let number fall any further as I think the high side would be 43 if they happen to tie up at 20 and next fg wins. That my high side, I think there a great possibility it ends on 37 or even lower..
                                                                        Dallas -2 (2x).. this is not a overreaction to week 1 this is week 1's dominating showing on Sunday night confirming what i already believed. The boys are one of the best teams in football and all the ridiculous hype about their demise was misguided and quite frankly stupid. On Sunday night dal did not go 3 and out on any possession, every drive finished in nyg territory! Yes they had some problems finishing and per usual the playcalling around the goal line was questionable but let's remember despite gmens offensive issues this a very good defensive unit that the boys simply pushed around.

                                                                        Donks are not built to deal with a road grading oline and elite rushing attack. Yes their run d looked good against the chargers, this ain't the chargers. Boys big beef up front will be more than miller and co can deal with, donks will be forced to bring extra defenders into the box and then dak will do what he does and make plays off the threat of run game.

                                                                        Defensively Dallas not great and this where I won't overreact from Sunday night as they played excellent but they are better than given credit for and once again are facing a weak oline this week. Their bend but don't break style will give up yards to Simien but will also force some mistakes as he tends to make some very ill advised passes throughout the course of a drive..

                                                                        Second week in a row we against the donks as clearly I think they getting a little too much respect. Chargers were a little overwhelmed early as the atmosphere was insane but I think were still the better team and if that game had another qrtr they would have not just covered the 3.5 but most likely won.. this week what may very well be the best team in football pretty much just having to win, sign me up. Let's call it 26-20 boys.
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