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  • trillz
    SBR MVP
    • 03-02-16
    • 1668

    #36
    Originally posted by JayDr3am
    it brings awareness and lots of media to his words. it needed to be said on a worldwide level simple as that. he did it the most peaceful, non violent way. The cops that are killing innocent people regardless of color, its bigger than the flag. its bigger than the united states. The people that are hired to be police and to protect us need to be evaluated more.. being a cop is too easy now a days. 70% of the cops out there shouldnt have access to a fire arm point blank period.........
    ok lets forget the fact he ever kneeled.. imagine if you just heard his reasoning on the radio or through audio, how can you disagree with kaep and what he said and how he explained it? otherwise you have to be extremely ignorant. which is fine! to each is own!
    Not even just the injustices of killing unarmed innocents civilians but also the racial profiling and incarcerations of people of color that are generally more extreme than those of whites, that's a fact. To think that these athletes choosing to kneel are receiving death threats and all of this retort goes to show how deep the problem is rooted in this country and the HATE that SOME people have for POC.
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    • sportsfan9698
      SBR MVP
      • 05-17-14
      • 1995

      #37
      Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
      If you were a cop in a violent crime infested inner city and you told someone not to move and they went to their waistband, you would shoot them dead in a heartbeat so you could go home that night. It is easy to criticize when you don't have to be in that jungle every day. If a cop tells you not to move, you don't go for your ID. Pretty simple concept.
      All of this is political. Any reasonable mind knows this already. So take the BLM "cause" and run with it. Continue to denigrate the cops... soon you will not have anybody to police the gang infested areas of the cities. Do you think that will help the lives of black folks? Be careful of what you wish for....
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      • jtoler
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-17-13
        • 30967

        #38
        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
        If you were a cop in a violent crime infested inner city and you told someone not to move and they went to their waistband, you would shoot them dead in a heartbeat so you could go home that night. It is easy to criticize when you don't have to be in that jungle every day. If a cop tells you not to move, you don't go for your ID. Pretty simple concept.
        They dont have to be there either. Nobody forces them to be a cop, many choose to for the power trip and some live for instances you just described so they can unload their clips. Heck you dont even have to reach in many situations.
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        • sportsfan9698
          SBR MVP
          • 05-17-14
          • 1995

          #39
          Originally posted by trillz
          Not even just the injustices of killing unarmed innocents civilians but also the racial profiling and incarcerations of people of color that are generally more extreme than those of whites, that's a fact. To think that these athletes choosing to kneel are receiving death threats and all of this retort goes to show how deep the problem is rooted in this country and the HATE that SOME people have for POC.
          What a completely upsurd statement. If anybody is in the public space (celebrity) and makes obviously controversial statements, they get death threats. Does not make it right, just fact. You make you comment with the implication that white people made those statements, so therefore whites are racist. Are you now going to accuse me of being a disendeant of a slave owner? You need help - really
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          • trillz
            SBR MVP
            • 03-02-16
            • 1668

            #40
            Originally posted by sportsfan9698
            What a completely upsurd statement. If anybody is in the public space (celebrity) and makes obviously controversial statements, they get death threats. Does not make it right, just fact. You make you comment with the implication that white people made those statements, so therefore whites are racist. Are you now going to accuse me of being a disendeant of a slave owner? You need help - really
            Are you that dense? I clearly said that SOME people feel that way. You are are living in your own little bubble if you choose to ignore that racism simple as that. Are you telling me there aren't racist white people? You twist words to fit your argument instead of acknowledging something that real people have to deal with every single day. Those who choose to be blind can not see.

            And it's absurd.
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            • sportsfan9698
              SBR MVP
              • 05-17-14
              • 1995

              #41
              Originally posted by trillz
              Are you that dense? I clearly said that SOME people feel that way. You are are living in your own little bubble if you choose to ignore that racism simple as that. Are you telling me there aren't racist white people? You twist words to fit your argument instead of acknowledging something that real people have to deal with every single day. Those who choose to be blind can not see.

              And it's absurd.
              Of course racism exists... it has for 1000's of years, and it will for 1000's more after all of us are gone. Your statements clearly are racist on their own. What are your trying to solve? Next is world hunger?

              Be a good person yourself, and stay away from those that are not good people. That is my rule.
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              • maggiethebestdog
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-21-13
                • 6700

                #42
                Originally posted by jtoler
                They dont have to be there either. Nobody forces them to be a cop, many choose to for the power trip and some live for instances you just described so they can unload their clips. Heck you dont even have to reach in many situations.
                Think about what you are saying. Cops don't have to be cops. What kind of country do we live in when people like you focus on 5% of cops that are bad and ignore the massive problems in the black community. You are arse backwards on this.
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                • sportsfan9698
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-17-14
                  • 1995

                  #43
                  Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                  Think about what you are saying. Cops don't have to be cops. What kind of country do we live in when people like you focus on 5% of cops that are bad and ignore the massive problems in the black community. You are arse backwards on this.
                  Any conversation or focus on the real problem does not advance the liberal agenda... and around the world keeps going
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                  • jtoler
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 12-17-13
                    • 30967

                    #44
                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                    Think about what you are saying. Cops don't have to be cops. What kind of country do we live in when people like you focus on 5% of cops that are bad and ignore the massive problems in the black community. You are arse backwards on this.
                    No you are backwards and its alot more than 5%. Where is the focus on white communities.
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                    • maggiethebestdog
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 12-21-13
                      • 6700

                      #45
                      Originally posted by trillz
                      Not even just the injustices of killing unarmed innocents civilians but also the racial profiling and incarcerations of people of color that are generally more extreme than those of whites, that's a fact. To think that these athletes choosing to kneel are receiving death threats and all of this retort goes to show how deep the problem is rooted in this country and the HATE that SOME people have for POC.
                      Your so called facts aren't facts. The real facts prove that the Criminal Justice system is not racially biased. That is like saying that because 90% of all prisoners in this country are men, then that proves the system is sexist as well. Men commit more crimes than women. That is reality. Just like the reality that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime compared to others. If you cannot accept that fact, you are a lost cause. If you think that blacks get sentenced harsher than anyone, you are simply listening to con artists and are ignorant of the real facts.
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                      • trillz
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-02-16
                        • 1668

                        #46
                        Originally posted by sportsfan9698
                        Of course racism exists... it has for 1000's of years, and it will for 1000's more after all of us are gone. Your statements clearly are racist on their own. What are your trying to solve? Next is world hunger?

                        Be a good person yourself, and stay away from those that are not good people. That is my rule.
                        Who are my comments racist towards? Whites? I'm white.. and that sort of thought process is the problem, because it doesn't have to be that way if we as a human race can stop thinking of certain skin pigments being superior.. racism only continues because we allow it to.
                        I agree with your last statement and if only it were that easy. Ignoring the problem(s) is not a solution
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                        • maggiethebestdog
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-21-13
                          • 6700

                          #47
                          Originally posted by jtoler
                          No you are backwards and its alot more than 5%. Where is the focus on white communities.
                          Produce one shred of evidence that it is more than 5%. You can't. Per ratio, whites don't commit nearly as much crime as blacks do. NOBODY DOES. Don't let facts get in your way.
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                          • maggiethebestdog
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-21-13
                            • 6700

                            #48
                            Originally posted by trillz
                            Who are my comments racist towards? Whites? I'm white.. and that sort of thought process is the problem, because it doesn't have to be that way if we as a human race can stop thinking of certain skin pigments being superior.. racism only continues because we allow it to.
                            I agree with your last statement and if only it were that easy. Ignoring the problem(s) is not a solution
                            Then why are you ignoring the the real problem? ??
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                            • trillz
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-02-16
                              • 1668

                              #49
                              Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                              Your so called facts aren't facts. The real facts prove that the Criminal Justice system is not racially biased. That is like saying that because 90% of all prisoners in this country are men, then that proves the system is sexist as well. Men commit more crimes than women. That is reality. Just like the reality that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime compared to others. If you cannot accept that fact, you are a lost cause. If you think that blacks get sentenced harsher than anyone, you are simply listening to con artists and are ignorant of the real facts.
                              Do some research pal, blacks are twice as likely to get the mandatory minimum as whites. Fact. Blacks are 13 percent of the population but make up 40 percent of prison population. You really believe that blacks commit that much more crime? Or is the system just tougher on them than other people?
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                              • sportsfan9698
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-17-14
                                • 1995

                                #50
                                Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                Then why are you ignoring the the real problem? ??
                                Because he has a political agenda. Anybody that talks about social injustice blows their cover. He has been brainwashed by parents, the media and college profs. Most likely beyond repair

                                Move along people - nothing to see here
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                                • jtoler
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 12-17-13
                                  • 30967

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                  Produce one shred of evidence that it is more than 5%. You can't. Per ratio, whites don't commit nearly as much crime as blacks do. NOBODY DOES. Don't let facts get in your way.
                                  Produce one shred of evidence that its 5%. Cops kill more whites, seems you should be up in arms about that, but...
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                                  • sportsfan9698
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-17-14
                                    • 1995

                                    #52
                                    I have been on this earth in this great country for just about 49 years... In my lifetime I have seen racial relations get better and better for about 42 of those years.

                                    Is it January 20th yet?
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                                    • maggiethebestdog
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-21-13
                                      • 6700

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by trillz
                                      Do some research pal, blacks are twice as likely to get the mandatory minimum as whites. Fact. Blacks are 13 percent of the population but make up 40 percent of d prison population. You really believe that blacks commit that much more crime? Or is the system just tougher on them than other people?
                                      Ignorant bleeding hearts with no facts are the problem. The so called fact you used has a little more to it. They didn't tell you that those numbers were from a study that did not compare apples to apples. They compared habitual criminals that were black to the sentencing of whites who had only 1 or 2 hits on their record. Obviously, judges get fed up with habitual offenders and throw the key away. If you take people getting sentenced of both races for the same crime AND WITH THE SAME CRIMINAL HISTORY, the sentencing is equal. The ignorant are easily led astray.
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                                      • maggiethebestdog
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-21-13
                                        • 6700

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                        Produce one shred of evidence that its 5%. Cops kill more whites, seems you should be up in arms about that, but...
                                        Cops overwhelmingly kill criminals. No matter the race i have no problem with that.
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                                        • sportsfan9698
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-17-14
                                          • 1995

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                          Ignorant bleeding hearts with no facts are the problem. The so called fact you used has a little more to it. They didn't tell you that those numbers were from a study that did not compare apples to apples. They compared habitual criminals that were black to the sentencing of whites who had only 1 or 2 hits on their record. Obviously, judges get fed up with habitual offenders and throw the key away. If you take people getting sentenced of both races for the same crime AND WITH THE SAME CRIMINAL HISTORY, the sentencing is equal. The ignorant are easily led astray.
                                          Come on Maggie you sound pretty intelligent so obviously you already know that any liberal hates facts that do not back up their theory

                                          Quit picking on him lol
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                                          • sportsfan9698
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-17-14
                                            • 1995

                                            #56
                                            A few years ago the mantra was "don't taze me bro"

                                            Maybe the grass is not always greener on the other side lmao - be careful what you wish for!!!

                                            So the libs hate cops now - like I said earlier we will see how they like it when there are no cops willing to do their job in the jungle
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                                            • trillz
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-02-16
                                              • 1668

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                              Ignorant bleeding hearts with no facts are the problem. The so called fact you used has a little more to it. They didn't tell you that those numbers were from a study that did not compare apples to apples. They compared habitual criminals that were black to the sentencing of whites who had only 1 or 2 hits on their record. Obviously, judges get fed up with habitual offenders and throw the key away. If you take people getting sentenced of both races for the same crime AND WITH THE SAME CRIMINAL HISTORY, the sentencing is equal. The ignorant are easily led astray.
                                              Habitual criminals because Cops are purposely going into low income black neighborhoods to arrest people for things like weed possession. the gap for drug use is NOT that large. If you look at more studies you would know whites use more drugs but blacks are still 4 times more likely to be arrested for drugs.. BECAUSE they're purposely targeting them. Blacks make up 45% of people serving for drug offenses.. whites 30%. Don't call anyone ignorant when all you've done is tell half the story.
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                                              • maggiethebestdog
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 12-21-13
                                                • 6700

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by trillz
                                                Habitual criminals because Cops are purposely going into low income black neighborhoods to arrest people for things like weed possession. the gap for drug use is NOT that large. If you look at more studies you would know whites use more drugs but blacks are still 4 times more likely to be arrested for drugs.. BECAUSE they're purposely targeting them. Blacks make up 45% of people serving for drug offenses.. whites 30%. Don't call anyone ignorant when all you've done is tell half the story.
                                                Wow. Can't argue with delusion. You are right, it's everybody's fault but their's, lol.
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                                                • maggiethebestdog
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 12-21-13
                                                  • 6700

                                                  #59
                                                  FACT. Less than 10% of all police officers in the USA ever discharge their weapon outside the gun range IN THEIR ENTIRE CAREER. Less than 3% of those discharges are even racial in nature and are not obvious justified shootings. The overwhelming number of those are cleared after a thorough investigation. We are talking about such a low percentage of discharges it can barely be measured. That is called reality.
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