Arizona is going to slaughter the lions

Cougsky17 · 10-06-15, 06:00 PM

Lions got absolutely brutalized last night, physically. Seemed like at least 1 guy went down on every series. Ebron is hurt, and the rest of them on a short week are gonna be bruised and tight.

I'd pound ARI, I think it's at -3.5 right now.

pinchegringo · 10-06-15, 06:13 PM

Give me DET

They just went into SEA and should have won. Dont forget SEA only put up 13 points.

scratbandit · 10-06-15, 06:36 PM

Sea is a shell of its formal self

scratbandit · 10-06-15, 06:36 PM

Pound az...

Le_Donk · 10-06-15, 07:08 PM

take the under 44 pts

RickyRoma · 10-06-15, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Le_Donk

take the under 44 pts

That's a good wager as well but I still take AZ

Jowframs · 10-06-15, 10:21 PM

Uh.....O

pinchegringo · 10-07-15, 08:39 AM

Public Perception:

Everyone sees ARI is top in a division with SEA in it. Everyone sees DET is 0-4. Then they see that the line is only ARI -3...

Context:

...which immediately was bet to -2.5 despite ARI getting 80% of the wagers. That right there should be the end of this thread.

They dont see that DET should be 2-2 against a schedule including DEN and SEA.

SEA may be a shell of itself but it is still a very good team, DEN is still much better now than they will be in 2 months when Mannings arm will literally be a pool noodle rather than just figuratively as it is currently.

Also you want to throw out ARI traveling but DET is at home, and ARI IS traveling.

I do know there is a pretty telling stat of teams ATS the week after playing SEA (spoiler alert it isn't good for those teams but I couldn't find it), and on a shortened week that must exacerbate things but...

Take DET ML or DET +3 if you find it.

keely85 · 10-07-15, 09:28 AM

I like AZ because the Lions are terrible on offense. The only thing I worry about is the pass rush taking Palmer out of the game (As he inevitably will at some point this season.)

onetimer85 · 10-07-15, 09:51 AM

Lions 0-5 after this week

pinchegringo · 10-07-15, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by keely85

I like AZ because the Lions are terrible on offense. The only thing I worry about is the pass rush taking Palmer out of the game (As he inevitably will at some point this season.)

Its not like they dont have the pieces though.

Maybe this week they change their signs.

RickyRoma · 10-07-15, 02:02 PM

I can't believe someone would lean towards the lions. The play is clearly Arizona or none if ur that paranoid. I'm waiting for bovada to open the line up

Cougsky17 · 10-08-15, 01:12 AM

If you rely on trends at all just look at Arizona since 2013.

As Away Favorite	4-1-0	80.0%	8.2	+4.4
Non-Division Games	17-6-0	73.9%	4.8	+4.7
As Home Underdog	5-2-0	71.4%	-0.1	+3.4
As Favorite	12-5-0	70.6%	10.9	+6.9
After A Loss	7-3-0	70.0%	1.7	+2.6
Conference Games	20-9-0	69.0%	3.0	+4.5
As Home Team	13-6-0	68.4%	7.6	+6.3
All Games	25-12-0	67.6%	3.5	+4.3
After A Win	16-8-0	66.7%	4.3	+5.1
As Away Team	12-6-0	66.7%	-0.8	+2.1
As Home Favorite	8-4-0	66.7%	12.1	+8.0
As Underdog	13-7-0	65.0%	-2.8	+2.0
Non-Conference Games	5-3-0	62.5%	5.2	+3.4
As Away Underdog	8-5-0	61.5%	-4.2	+1.3
Division Games	8-6-0	57.1%	1.4	+3.5
After A Bye	0-2-0	0.0%	-9.0	-6.8
Playoff Games	0-1-0	0.0%	-11.0	-5.5

Jeep_Life 42 · 10-08-15, 08:50 AM

Arizona is the play in this game!

tailin junkie · 10-08-15, 09:10 AM

toot toot

racer43 · 10-08-15, 09:18 AM

Arizona teased to +3.5 I really like.... crossing the zero works well here, added to GB and NE makes a nice teaser IMO

pinchegringo · 10-08-15, 09:36 AM

I am not betting it either way, maybe the under I just think that DET ML or +3 is a better play than ARI.

Jeep_Life 42 · 10-08-15, 10:50 AM

Lions gunna be 0-5 after this weekend!

griffey_mojo · 10-08-15, 03:01 PM

Lions Win an easy game

Goat Milk · 10-08-15, 06:30 PM

I'ts just about matchups....

Lions are arguably one of the most talented offensive rosters in the NFL

AZ should win but basing your decision on what's happened in previous NFL games is not the right thing to do. This is the NFL, not college football...every team is full of elite professionals.

You need to look at the matchups like lions O line vs AZ d line, AZ secondary vs Calvin and Tate, and the flip side too with zona o line vs det d line etc. Stop making general statements based on last weeks game or a game from week 1. Every matchup in the NFL is its own unique matchup.

Lions have studs all across the board and this game will be interesting for sure.

Lakers714 · 10-08-15, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

I'ts just about matchups....

Lions are arguably one of the most talented offensive rosters in the NFL

AZ should win but basing your decision on what's happened in previous NFL games is not the right thing to do. This is the NFL, not college football...every team is full of elite professionals.

You need to look at the matchups like lions O line vs AZ d line, AZ secondary vs Calvin and Tate, and the flip side too with zona o line vs det d line etc. Stop making general statements based on last weeks game or a game from week 1. Every matchup in the NFL is its own unique matchup.

Lions have studs all across the board and this game will be interesting for sure.

Best write up I've seen on this thread...

RickyRoma · 10-10-15, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

I'ts just about matchups....

Lions are arguably one of the most talented offensive rosters in the NFL

AZ should win but basing your decision on what's happened in previous NFL games is not the right thing to do. This is the NFL, not college football...every team is full of elite professionals.

You need to look at the matchups like lions O line vs AZ d line, AZ secondary vs Calvin and Tate, and the flip side too with zona o line vs det d line etc. Stop making general statements based on last weeks game or a game from week 1. Every matchup in the NFL is its own unique matchup.

Lions have studs all across the board and this game will be interesting for sure.

Lions do have a potent offense, but its liable to a lot of mistakes (as seen the last couple seasons and this season). That is a very flawed roster and az is a liable to win there division.

2daBank · 10-10-15, 07:02 AM

lions and their "talented offensive roster" spearing that "potent offense" have mustered all of 16.5 points per game through the 1st month.

we all know goaty is a fan boy and known to slobber over any name brand so that explains his delusional take, what about anyone else feeling this offensive juggernaut? please explain what exactly about this offense spews talent. the matchup is zona blitz happy d sacking and turning over that bum stafford who the idiot coach will let sit in shotgun and throw 50x. the time zone doesnt mean shit seeing how it a 3pm start not 11 am.

far as the perception and flawed worrying bout bet percentages angles id ask if you also liked the bears when zona was the same joke -2.5? they only won that gm by 3-4 tds.

RickyRoma · 10-11-15, 05:06 PM

Hope u guys jumped in when I pointed it out

Git Lo · 10-11-15, 05:31 PM

2dabank your an idiot. At the end of the day the offense can only produce what the QB can deliver. Stafford just got benched for the reason he can't produce, roster wise they are very talented except starting QB its a sad situation really

jimminn · 10-11-15, 05:57 PM

How does Stafford even accept his paycheck? He should be a reserve at best.

WWCD · 10-11-15, 05:59 PM

Good job. Only put them on a 2 team parlay and hit.

Seemed 2 easy, and it was.

RickyRoma · 10-11-15, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by WWCD

Good job. Only put them on a 2 team parlay and hit.

Seemed 2 easy, and it was.

Get it anyway you can man, nice work

pronk · 10-11-15, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

I'ts just about matchups....

Lions are arguably one of the most talented offensive rosters in the NFL

AZ should win but basing your decision on what's happened in previous NFL games is not the right thing to do. This is the NFL, not college football...every team is full of elite professionals.

You need to look at the matchups like lions O line vs AZ d line, AZ secondary vs Calvin and Tate, and the flip side too with zona o line vs det d line etc. Stop making general statements based on last weeks game or a game from week 1. Every matchup in the NFL is its own unique matchup.

Lions have studs all across the board and this game will be interesting for sure.

Goat is always full of "studs". Who are those studs Goat, vagina Tate or retards strafford & "electron" (whatever his name is).

Nice call Ricky! Detroit bums were born to be losers.

Jowframs · 10-11-15, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by RickyRoma

Arizona coming off a very sloppy home loss to a division rival, with a lot of turnovers, mistakes made from the rams defense will be ready to put statford down. Disregard the timezone change and don't forget stafford is 3-33 vs teams over 500. Since 2009.

Arizona 30 lions 13.

Nice call......They were who we thought they were