Have you ever seen the books lose their ass 2 weeks in a row?

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  • WWCD
    SBR MVP
    • 11-22-13
    • 1957

    #1
    Have you ever seen the books lose their ass 2 weeks in a row?
    After a quick glance over the results today, it looks like 10 of 11 heavy favorites covered. (60%+ range)

    I'm thinking I should probably only be betting dogs in Week 4 since the books should bounce back.

    Thoughts?
  • aston
    SBR MVP
    • 11-05-08
    • 1185

    #2
    I think your spot on

    Public had big money on Seahawks,Patriots, and Falcons

    Books will bounce back
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    • Git Lo
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      • 02-20-11
      • 3785

      #3
      I would think Steelers too. Ben goes down they still cover
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      • Jeff_Black
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        • 04-04-15
        • 3571

        #4
        Yeah I think there is a bit of disrespect towards certain teams. And probably a few overreactions to a week 1 win or loss.
        Say the Rams had a good win at home against Seattle, still being respected too much by books from that win
        Broncos are still being disrespected, yes Oline has changed and there are a few fumbles/TOs but the defense has forced fumbles and INTs too and no one has given due credit to Phillips and the acquisitions for this...
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        • Jeff_Black
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          • 04-04-15
          • 3571

          #5
          There are still a few dime teams for the books to make money off though, Saints for example heh
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          • jtoler
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            • 12-17-13
            • 30967

            #6
            You guys need to quit, nobody's losing nothing, take a walk down the strip and tell me theyre losing. Lol two weeks.
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            • WWCD
              SBR MVP
              • 11-22-13
              • 1957

              #7
              Originally posted by jtoler
              You guys need to quit, nobody's losing nothing, take a walk down the strip and tell me theyre losing. Lol two weeks.
              The books lost today if you just look at the results you nitwit.
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              • jtoler
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 12-17-13
                • 30967

                #8
                Originally posted by WWCD
                The books lost today if you just look at the results you nitwit.
                Prove it. Do you know who bet what, on who, and how much, do you know if any books sold, bought with any others, no you dont.
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                • WWCD
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-22-13
                  • 1957

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jtoler
                  Prove it. Do you know who bet what, on who, and how much, do you know if any books sold, bought with any others, no you dont.
                  I am pretty sure there will ar least be a few articles out tomorrow with some numbers for you. 10 of 11 favorites covered and you think the books won today? Wow.
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                  • jtoler
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                    • 12-17-13
                    • 30967

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WWCD
                    I am pretty sure there will ar least be a few articles out tomorrow with some numbers for you. 10 of 11 favorites covered and you think the books won today? Wow.
                    10 out of 11 huh, I see favs went 6-8 or 7-7 depending on when one got Pitt.
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                    • Cordoba25
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 11-22-14
                      • 315

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jtoler
                      You guys need to quit, nobody's losing nothing, take a walk down the strip and tell me theyre losing. Lol two weeks.
                      I read or heard somewhere (may have been the Sloan conference.. not sure) that sportsbooks only account for 1% of casino revenue. Walking down the strip won't really tell you much about anything about how well Vegas is doing with its sportsbook action as it accounts for just a miniscule percentage of their earnings. But yea, Vegas will always come out ahead with all their action.

                      For those of you wondering how Vegas sportbooks do each week..I recommend listening to the Chad Millman podcast. They guy is a douche and annoying as hell but he has Bob Scucci (book manager at the Orleans/ former asst book manager at the Stardust) on every week, who's as legit as they come who more often than not, breaks down each game, where the sharp/ public action is and which side Vegas will need to come through. It'll give you a good general idea when Vegas has a bad week with their sportsbook action..
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                      • drfunkmaster
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-29-08
                        • 11162

                        #12
                        books did not lose anything, in fact they made money, no book loses money.
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                        • CWD
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                          • 01-22-12
                          • 7665

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WWCD
                          I am pretty sure there will ar least be a few articles out tomorrow with some numbers for you. 10 of 11 favorites covered and you think the books won today? Wow.
                          exactly like jtoler said. articles mean squat too as well as posted % at any all online books.

                          and like been said books never lose they work with eachother lay off money etc. and like said many many times NOBODY NOWHERE on here knows the handle or real % numbers. anyone who claims to is as full of shit as it gets. really hate to be a dick but anyone who buys the BS those casino mangers spew out when they are on espn is BRAIN DEAD and deserves to lose.
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                          • WWCD
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-22-13
                            • 1957

                            #14
                            So regardless if all the dogs cover, or if all the heavy favorites cover, there is no cause and effect for the books? Come on now. Of course there are plenty of things going on behind closed doors, but to say that the Books win every Sunday no matter what the results are is a bit ignorant IMO. But believe what you want.

                            Maybe I should change the question up:
                            Have you ever seen the majority of the heavy favorites cover in back to back weeks?

                            Hmmm, maybe people just do not know the answer and rather just shit on the thread.

                            Just say "I don't know".

                            It's ok. You don't have to pretend to know everything.
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                            • CWD
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                              • 01-22-12
                              • 7665

                              #15
                              Originally posted by WWCD
                              So regardless if all the dogs cover, or if all the heavy favorites cover, there is no cause and effect for the books? Come on now. Of course there are plenty of things going on behind closed doors, but to say that the Books win every Sunday no matter what the results are is a bit ignorant IMO. But believe what you want.

                              Maybe I should change the question up:
                              Have you ever seen the majority of the heavy favorites cover in back to back weeks?

                              Hmmm, maybe people just do not know the answer and rather just shit on the thread.

                              Just say "I don't know".

                              It's ok. You don't have to pretend to know everything.
                              why you think only a select few in the world can operate sportsboooks?

                              cause its win-win-win - a license to print money 24/7 365. and yes nobody has the actual proof but theres are so many factors pointing to it i think its extrememly naive to believe they ever lose.
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                              • WWCD
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-22-13
                                • 1957

                                #16
                                So what you're saying is, you do not know the answer to the question at hand?
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                                • RavensFan2k3
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-18-12
                                  • 17378

                                  #17
                                  the "public" isn't always only on the favorites tho
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                                  • WWCD
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-22-13
                                    • 1957

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                                    the "public" isn't always only on the favorites tho
                                    The ones I looked at, 60% or more of the bets were on the favorite, but I understand what you are saying.
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                                    • CWD
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                                      • 01-22-12
                                      • 7665

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by WWCD
                                      So what you're saying is, you do not know the answer to the question at hand?
                                      give it up this is not a scientific question but it is a polarizing topic ill say that much

                                      yes nobody has proof either way cause nobody here is head of a sportsbook but anyone with half a brain knows the deal
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                                      • swag1982
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-25-14
                                        • 1076

                                        #20
                                        Vegas was not built on the back of sports books
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                                        • WWCD
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-22-13
                                          • 1957

                                          #21
                                          Question: "Is the sky blue?"

                                          Answer: I like turtles.

                                          That is all I am reading LMAO. Continue deflecting.
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                                          • CWD
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                                            • 01-22-12
                                            • 7665

                                            #22
                                            Question Have you ever seen the books lose their ass 2 weeks in a row?

                                            Answerr No
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                                            • jtoler
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 12-17-13
                                              • 30967

                                              #23
                                              Ive said it before no need to look at those betting percentages, they arnt going to help you win and you dont know if the information is correct and even if it is correct so what it says nothing about money wagered. They started giving that "info" out some years ago to give the bettor the illusion that its relevant info, it isnt, well at least not to me, I pay no mind to it.
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                                              • WWCD
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-22-13
                                                • 1957

                                                #24
                                                It will be fun to bump this thread on Sunday night.

                                                I will be at the very least paying extra special attention to every heavy dog.
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                                                • CWD
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                                                  • 01-22-12
                                                  • 7665

                                                  #25
                                                  c u sunday
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                                                  • stevenash
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 65728

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by swag1982
                                                    Vegas was not built on the back of sports books
                                                    Correct, even though the books had a record year last year, it still only accounted for 1.2 percent of revenue.

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                                                    • Jeff_Black
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                                                      • 04-04-15
                                                      • 3571

                                                      #27
                                                      Green Bay covered as well today, I imagine that was a popular play as well
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                                                      • Jeep_Life 42
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                                                        • 09-28-15
                                                        • 1388

                                                        #28
                                                        Packers tonight was easy $!
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                                                        • recon1
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                                                          • 08-13-12
                                                          • 2579

                                                          #29
                                                          Doesn't really matter what percentage of investments are coming in on who, but where is the money at.
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                                                          • bignick231
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 11-24-12
                                                            • 137

                                                            #30
                                                            Agree books don't get killed you'll rookies better outta LA LA LAND.


                                                            Like poster said above u don't know who bet on what. If 99 people bet 100 dollars on packers and just 1 person bet 10k books won all u see is percentages not dollar amounts
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                                                            • WWCD
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-22-13
                                                              • 1957

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by bignick231
                                                              Agree books don't get killed you'll rookies better outta LA LA LAND.


                                                              Like poster said above u don't know who bet on what. If 99 people bet 100 dollars on packers and just 1 person bet 10k books won all u see is percentages not dollar amounts
                                                              Percentages still gives up a good amount of information, as well as which way the lines move.

                                                              Just because you ignore this information when you cap does not mean that the information is useless to everyone.

                                                              Get off your high horses people.
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                                                              • jtoler
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                                                                • 12-17-13
                                                                • 30967

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by WWCD
                                                                Percentages still gives up a good amount of information, as well as which way the lines move.

                                                                Just because you ignore this information when you cap does not mean that the information is useless to everyone.

                                                                Get off your high horses people.
                                                                So percentages move lines and not money?
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                                                                • BigdaddyQH
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-13-09
                                                                  • 19530

                                                                  #33
                                                                  First, 90% of you or more have never been to Vegas. Those of you that have apparently have no idea of how a casino is run. Just because the favorites cover big time does NOT mean that the casino took as loss. Have you wanna-be idiots ever heard of parlay wagering? Teaser Wagering? Prop wagering? Do you know the legitimate odds vs the odds that casinos pay out for wagers like that? Do you have any idea of how much the casino makes on those wagers no matter how the favorites fare each week? In the 2015 Superbowl, the books took a huge hit on a 4 way teaser play, but still managed to make money because of all of the losing parlay and prop plays. In 2014, the line dropped from Denver -3 to a Pk, when all of the smart money came rolling in on Seattle. Despite this, the books made record profits that year because of their parlay, teaser, and prop wagering wins.

                                                                  You guys should really drop this. Very few, if any of you know what you are talking about. Here is a clue. If Team A opens as a 15 point favorite, and then gets bet down to 10, but still wins, the books have made a profit, because the books set the lines to begin with. So for you wanna-be players (90% of which are losers out there), it matters not if the favorite covers or not. What matters is how much money went down on each team and you guys can NEVER find that out. The best thing you can do is simply watch the line movement which MAY give you some idea of where the money is going.
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                                                                  • WWCD
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-22-13
                                                                    • 1957

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Vegas is a shithole. Unfortunately I go 2x a year for business.
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                                                                    • stevenash
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                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65728

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by WWCD
                                                                      So what you're saying is, you do not know the answer to the question at hand?
                                                                      And he uses 1000 words to prove he's an idiot.
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