TNF: G-Men at Skins. discuss.

firekillex · 09-23-14, 11:41 AM

Leaning over 45
kirk should light it up, hoping Eli follows last weeks performance
both defences under average

Allure · 09-23-14, 11:45 AM

Giants

Spedizzo · 09-23-14, 11:46 AM

tough game

leaning Giants +4

SharpAngles · 09-23-14, 12:24 PM

Over would be the only play I'd consider right now. Hoping homer money gets it closer to -3 so I can jump on the skins by game time.

amrit · 09-23-14, 01:18 PM

^^ Agree with above poster. If line hits -3, I will be on the skins.

2daBank · 09-23-14, 04:01 PM

skins front 7 is really good, they among the best at stopping the run. you can def pass on that shit secondary but i dont think eli gonna be real effective or play a turnover free game w/o the aid of a strong run gm.. home teams win these thu night shitfest like 68% of the time, just not real fair for the road team traveling on a short week.. to me this line same as it would be if that scrub rg3 was playing but i have them several points better with cousins under center, i played skins-3 -130...

WWCD · 09-23-14, 04:25 PM

If I can get -3, I will probably be on Skins as well. But I think I like the over better.

Snowball · 09-23-14, 04:25 PM

can't dispute that argument, 2da.. makes sense.. perhaps the trap is to
read too much into this latest Giants win.. after all, they were at home
and it's going to more difficult to execute a new offense with the noise
at RFK.. or whatever they call that place these days.

hawg200 · 09-23-14, 05:04 PM

Over

DubMoney88 · 09-23-14, 05:07 PM

The Skins aka Cousins will light that weak NY defense up. They have a better offense and defense than the Giants. I see them winning by atleast 7. Look for 2 picks from Manning.

Snowball · 09-23-14, 05:15 PM

everyone leaning over... so you know what to do...

KRIT · 09-23-14, 05:23 PM

I was kind of expecting skins to be a bigger fave. Anyone else think the line looks short? Maybe my perception of Skins is too high and GMen is too low.

amrit · 09-23-14, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

I was kind of expecting skins to be a bigger fave. Anyone else think the line looks short? Maybe my perception of Skins is too high and GMen is too low.

It opened at -5.5...which I think was reasonable.

THam12 · 09-23-14, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by DubMoney88

The Skins aka Cousins will light that weak NY defense up. They have a better offense and defense than the Giants. I see them winning by atleast 7. Look for 2 picks from Manning.

I love these posts.
"Look for 2 picks from manning".
Bro , stop.

2daBank · 09-23-14, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

can't dispute that argument, 2da.. makes sense.. perhaps the trap is to
read too much into this latest Giants win.. after all, they were at home
and it's going to more difficult to execute a new offense with the noise
at RFK.. or whatever they call that place these days.

I took gmen against hou so not surprised or gonna give them more credit than they deserve. Bottom line is they beat a terrible qb and a shitty run defense. IMO skins would have done the same if cousins was playing week 1, they did hold hou to 2 Tds and 1 was off a blocked punt.. I think skins d is better than they get credit for, granted the back end is bad but the front 7 is really good. Again what do you think Eli looks like if his rb isn't dominating the gm? I tend to think not all that great and turnover prone if he forced to chuck it up 40 times.

2daBank · 09-23-14, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

everyone leaning over... so you know what to do...

Divisional gm and thu night, wouldn't shock me at all if both front 7s played well and this was a lot uglier than ppl expect. I played last thu night over but it ain't something I try and make a habit of, in fact used to auto bet the 1st half under on all these thu night cash grabs..

Snowball · 09-23-14, 06:42 PM

neither of these teams deserve much respect at all .. philly put up 37 in
come from behind vs redskins.. allowed a k/o return 102 yds.. you know there
is so much over-talk and conjecture and expectations across the media on
radio, internet, tv, bla bla bla - we all get overloaded with talking points and
opinions to the extent that it's actually hard not to be influenced by these
assumptions subconsciously... i am watching the over 45.5 hoping it gets
to 47... but i doubt it will..
the art of picking NFL is the art of filtering the hype from the truth.

2daBank · 09-23-14, 07:59 PM

id play the under as well at 47, cant see it getting higher than 46 tho.. it will prob go under 45 but i think that number bout right..

survive · 09-23-14, 08:17 PM

So far favorites have been covering easily in the TNF games. I feel like the past two years dogs were covering at a decent rate for TNF games

Fred The Hammer · 09-23-14, 08:24 PM

Over is 8-2 in primetime games this year. RG2.5 isn't making 2 yd runs and throws anymore

2daBank · 09-23-14, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by survive

So far favorites have been covering easily in the TNF games. I feel like the past two years dogs were covering at a decent rate for TNF games

home team is what covering mostly.. they win like 68% of these things.

2daBank · 09-23-14, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by Fred The Hammer

Over is 8-2 in primetime games this year. RG2.5 isn't making 2 yd runs and throws anymore

so you think you can just continue to bet overs every prime time game and be up from this point at end of year? maybe based off the way gms are officiated, hell ive bet 4 of last 5 or so, doubt that clip keeps up.. i love skins without that bum 3, still think we talking bout a gm played in the low 20s. maybe 27-20 skins which why id most likely leave total alone unless it got bet all the way to 47, kinda lean to more like 24-20 tho.. im betting skins till i think numbers have adjusted for cousins, thus far looks to me like he valued bout the same as rg2.5 so think there a argument to back the skins.. of coarse if 3 was playing and it would prob have been a solid -3 and id have backed gmen ml quick, so maybe a slight adjustment has been made, i made it -4 with cousins..

Snowball · 09-24-14, 06:37 AM

well i made up my mind concerning this TNF. Sticking to it..
Going with the Skins +3.5 in a teaser with other things.
That's about the extent I want to get involved here.
Let's see if they don't mess it up.

hawg200 · 09-24-14, 09:31 AM

Why do people continue to tease across 0? Biggest mistake in all of sports betting.

Fred The Hammer · 09-24-14, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by 2daBank

so you think you can just continue to bet overs every prime time game and be up from this point at end of year? maybe based off the way gms are officiated, hell ive bet 4 of last 5 or so, doubt that clip keeps up.. i love skins without that bum 3, still think we talking bout a gm played in the low 20s. maybe 27-20 skins which why id most likely leave total alone unless it got bet all the way to 47, kinda lean to more like 24-20 tho.. im betting skins till i think numbers have adjusted for cousins, thus far looks to me like he valued bout the same as rg2.5 so think there a argument to back the skins.. of coarse if 3 was playing and it would prob have been a solid -3 and id have backed gmen ml quick, so maybe a slight adjustment has been made, i made it -4 with cousins..

Last 5 NYG at Wash Under and I'm sure Eli had better weapons in those 5 then he does now. I agree with you that the Over seems sketchy? I like Washington here but the Thurs home fav prob not a big deal with the short travel and a div rival that the Giants know well.
Tough one to call at this point? I did like Cousins out of Mich State though....underrated. He beat a more talented Georgia team in their last bowl game and the Big Ten doesn't beat the SEC very often anymore

Snowball · 09-24-14, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by hawg200

Why do people continue to tease across 0? Biggest mistake in all of sports betting.

that is a generality. i usually don't cross -0- either, although i'm yet to
see any statistical proof that teasers which cross the line fail more than ones which do not. it doesn't mean Skins +3.5 will fail.

bwinkle53 · 09-24-14, 02:32 PM

HMMMM You gottra remember,this is a PRO game,NOT a college game.....What he did last week doesn't matter this week....What he needs to do is WIN....I certainly think he will do just that, "WIN" Wash. -3.5 for my bet....

bwinkle53 · 09-24-14, 02:38 PM

WOW Does no one even consider that the gamble part of a bet may just be the reason we gamble anyway.....I play ALOT of parlays just don't talk about it...hit a $10.00 on 3 teams last week,,,I've hit I honestly don't know how many 2 team parlays this year so far,,,,I don't even consider a 2 team as playing,,,it just doesn't rilllle my gambler in me any....( if you kno what I meen )

mikeya2k · 09-24-14, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by bwinkle53

WOW Does no one even consider that the gamble part of a bet may just be the reason we gamble anyway.....I play ALOT of parlays just don't talk about it...hit a $10.00 on 3 teams last week,,,I've hit I honestly don't know how many 2 team parlays this year so far,,,,I don't even consider a 2 team as playing,,,it just doesn't rilllle my gambler in me any....( if you kno what I meen )

I do not comprehend

imadegen · 09-25-14, 12:58 AM

Giants are back.

757sFinest · 09-25-14, 06:57 AM

Kirk Cousins has started four games as a pro. He has won all but three of them.

Demonata · 09-25-14, 07:06 AM

Giants here. Same as when bears were underdog Monday. Coin flipmwatch so taking giants. Who cares if it's on tha road.

triplecrown333 · 09-25-14, 08:01 AM

giants giving 2.5 on a pleaser is good r/r i think...

labones00 · 09-25-14, 08:39 AM

Been pouring all night and this morning here in DC, wouldn't be surprised if the field is really sloppy tonight. Under might be the play, public very heavy on the over