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  • SmittyZ28
    SBR MVP
    • 09-04-12
    • 1469

    #1
    Colts -2?
    This is a fishy line..

    Both coming off a buy week so that is a wash
    Defenses are very close
    Offense goes to the Colts even without Wayne
    Coaching Colts, Gary K is a born loser
    QB Keenum VS Luck
    Texans with the home field
    Texans with a better ground game

    Not seeing the angle on this line at all. Colts have beat the best teams in football Texans could barely beat Alabama. I know they have all the talent in the world but we say that every year, COlts are right here and now. Is this an over reaction to Wayne injury, let down after Broncos? Am I missing an angle here? I get it Keenum can keep it close with a decent offense and with Foster and Tate they will try and run the ball to keep luck out of the game and all that...

    I bet value and at -2 the Colts looking pretty damn valuable
  • TwoWays
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-24-10
    • 13145

    #2
    i watched keenum play vs kc. kid can fling it around the field with accuracy. texan coaches didn't mind letting him throw the ball either. you might be talking about him after this texans game.
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #3
      Originally posted by TwoWays
      i watched keenum play vs kc. kid can fling it around the field with accuracy. texan coaches didn't mind letting him throw the ball either. you might be talking about him after this texans game.
      ive heard a ton of favorable comparisons for the kid to some pretty good qbs. and i thought he played pretty well in a tough spot in kc, of coarse jason campbell just played well in kc also which might diminish it a little bit..
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      • mikew
        SBR Hustler
        • 02-09-12
        • 74

        #4
        apparently the OP knows more than all the bookies and sharps combined
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #5
          head coach id agree but indy really made a mistake bringing in pep hamilton as OC imo (and trading for 1 yard and a cloud of dust to help spurn his gay offense).. if you giving colts credit for beating sea or den (not sure which we calling best), id say hou prob would have beat sea as well if anyone other than schaub was playing qb and of coarse they were both in indy, they did beat the shit out of sf in sf tho which pretty fukkin impressive, dont get me wrong i like this colts team..

          i have a ton to look at in this gm before i can play it either way but im not sure how much you can overreact to losing a guy like wayne? yea indy has other weapons and i luv TY (hoping this turns into his chance to shine, for selfish fantasy reasons) but that means a lot more balls to stone hands DHB who isnt gonna convert the big 3rd downs like a pro like wayne is that keep drives moving.. that injury is gonna give pep even more of a excuse to play ground and pound which they not all that good at, imo the way beat hou has always been to open it up and let it fly wth good wrs and colts have a oc that scared to do that and now one less weapon to do it with, i hear good things about that youngster on indy that he a burner and could be special (brazil or something? it early) but how many 3 wide sets will pep even run? hate this guy as oc for this team, i guess i understand setting a physical tone on offense but man if i have luck and his weapons (little lesser w/o wayne) im wanting to open up more especially in this gm as i think i recall hou pass defense numbers being significantly worse when Cushing was out last yr which he is again..

          id dont know what the health of foster and tate is like? but i know that while indy's d has made great strides i still think you can get physical with them in the run gm and also im not so sure their corners can play physical with johnson and hopkins and win as those 2 freaks are strong off the line and keenam can chuck that ball down the field...
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          • SmittyZ28
            SBR MVP
            • 09-04-12
            • 1469

            #6
            Originally posted by mikew
            apparently the OP knows more than all the bookies and sharps combined
            apparently someone s*it in your cereal this morning
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            • 2daBank
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-26-09
              • 88966

              #7
              Originally posted by mikew
              apparently the OP knows more than all the bookies and sharps combined
              dont understand this kind of post? i mean if you disagree with him great but lets hear why not some condescending bs that helps no1..
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              • SmittyZ28
                SBR MVP
                • 09-04-12
                • 1469

                #8
                Originally posted by 2daBank
                head coach id agree but indy really made a mistake bringing in pep hamilton as OC imo (and trading for 1 yard and a cloud of dust to help spurn his gay offense).. if you giving colts credit for beating sea or den (not sure which we calling best), id say hou prob would have beat sea as well if anyone other than schaub was playing qb and of coarse they were both in indy, they did beat the shit out of sf in sf tho which pretty fukkin impressive, dont get me wrong i like this colts team..

                i have a ton to look at in this gm before i can play it either way but im not sure how much you can overreact to losing a guy like wayne? yea indy has other weapons and i luv TY (hoping this turns into his chance to shine, for selfish fantasy reasons) but that means a lot more balls to stone hands DHB who isnt gonna convert the big 3rd downs like a pro like wayne is that keep drives moving.. that injury is gonna give pep even more of a excuse to play ground and pound which they not all that good at, imo the way beat hou has always been to open it up and let it fly wth good wrs and colts have a oc that scared to do that and now one less weapon to do it with, i hear good things about that youngster on indy that he a burner and could be special (brazil or something? it early) but how many 3 wide sets will pep even run? hate this guy as oc for this team, i guess i understand setting a physical tone on offense but man if i have luck and his weapons (little lesser w/o wayne) im wanting to open up more especially in this gm as i think i recall hou pass defense numbers being significantly worse when Cushing was out last yr which he is again..

                id dont know what the health of foster and tate is like? but i know that while indy's d has made great strides i still think you can get physical with them in the run gm and also im not so sure their corners can play physical with johnson and hopkins and win as those 2 freaks are strong off the line and keenam can chuck that ball down the field...
                Great points Bank, thanks for the feedback. I agree Pep is handcuffing this team, every time they have given the opportunity to open it up Luck and the boys have moved the ball through the air effectively. I understand wanting to be a two dimension offense but not at the expense of handicapping one of the better passing offenses in the league, at least before Wayne got hurt. My concern is that the Texans come out playing conservative and Pep steps in and throws the workload on Richardson in which case he is setting them up for a tough road. Although on the flip side as you mentioned, neither Tate (4 broken ribs) or Foster (Hammy) are near 100% and both are questionable to play Sunday. Tate said he will be playing, but Kubiak said yesterday he is concerned about both of their availability for Sunday's game, which to me lends even more credibility to a strong play on the Colts.

                Keenum is definitely one to watch, would feel better about pick 6 Schaub in there but again we are talking Luck Vs Keenum here, no cushing, mostly likely missing at least one of their backs for Sunday with both of them being at the very least hobbled. Might not be worth a HUGE play but still liking the strong value play here, especially if Foster cant go, who just returned to light running duty yesterday, missing him will hurt the ground and the air game. Here is hoping Pep lets Luck do Luck
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                • 2daBank
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #9
                  yea the rb injuries are huge, havnt had the time to look into the situation this week yet, and guess doesnt really matter as unless it super clear, fri the 1st day to really know for sure.. if foster isnt back to healthy enough to be himself (or tate) id agree tough to make a case for hou..while i get what you saying with luck vs keenum the problem with that is i think that especially if the backs are hurt at least hou will be willing to let keenum air it out while not sure they will let luck even tho matchup suggest they should do just that, crazy that there a good chance keenum will have more freedom to make plays than luck but that just how it might go with this asshole OC, i mean nothing about what colts did made sense from hiring this prick to giving up a 1st round pick for a rb that cant even avg 4 ypc! seriously it looks like Brown is the best back on indy, fukkin boneheads give up a 1st rounder to play ground and pound when they have the best young qb in the gm, seeing how well they playing maybe im wrong about criticizing but doesnt make a lot of sense to me and hou can still defend the run so they better be willing to let luck do his thing, but again DHB cant catch which kinda a big deal for a wr...i dunno, think gm tougher than it seems and kinda think sticking with keenum might be smartest thing kubiak ever did and could possibly get them back in this race? ill def have a more solid opinion and range of scores on this gm later in the week..
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