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  • SteveRyan
    SBR MVP
    • 11-15-11
    • 1654

    #1
    Jets @ New England on Thursday
    Pats are -12.

    Only 1 time last season did they cover a spread greater than 10. Also, look at who they were playing (Cardinals, Jets, Bills and Jags).

    The total went under only 6 times last season.

    I'm a little hesitant to take a total on this one but I think laying 12 against the Jets is a bit too high.

    Danny Amendola out.

    Jets +12
  • iWin
    SBR High Roller
    • 01-16-12
    • 244

    #2
    Where's the news that Amendola's out? I thought he was questionable as of today
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    • KiDBaZkiT
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-20-09
      • 14962

      #3
      These are Rex Ryan's Superbowls. If Sanchez didn't play like he did against Pats on Thanksgiving all would be forgiven but he embarrassed the organization so bad that night.

      No doubt Rex Ryan spent his whole summer getting ready for this where as I gotta think Bellicheck had bigger fish to fry than the Jets.
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      • dmiles1021
        SBR MVP
        • 09-10-07
        • 1412

        #4
        now the only question is do we tease Jets to +18.5 or Pats to -6.5.
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        • KiDBaZkiT
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-20-09
          • 14962

          #5
          Originally posted by dmiles1021
          now the only question is do we tease Jets to +18.5 or Pats to -6.5.
          We don't. It's called a "teaser" bro, that tells me all I need to know about it.
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          • dmiles1021
            SBR MVP
            • 09-10-07
            • 1412

            #6
            teasers can make you a lot of money if done properly.
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            • easyliving
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-25-12
              • 8876

              #7
              Originally posted by dmiles1021
              now the only question is do we tease Jets to +18.5 or Pats to -6.5.
              exacly what kind of value are you getting with a -6.5 line?
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              • dmiles1021
                SBR MVP
                • 09-10-07
                • 1412

                #8
                Originally posted by easyliving
                exacly what kind of value are you getting with a -6.5 line?
                thats the homer in me. To answer the question not a lot but if you want the Pats, -6.5 is a lot better than 12.5.
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                • pixster
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-25-11
                  • 1386

                  #9
                  Den @ Nyg ???
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                  • SteveRyan
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-15-11
                    • 1654

                    #10
                    64% is on NE and will rise come Thurs. Public gonna get buried.
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                    • SteveRyan
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-15-11
                      • 1654

                      #11
                      fixed
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                      • player101
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 08-07-13
                        • 18

                        #12
                        After I donated last week...and against DE BILLS...of all teams...I 'm either fading N.E. or not betting at all...I know the JETS have problems...but at least they play hard...I really question "HOW GOOD NEW ENGLAND REALLY IS???"...These are just my thoughts...New England normally plays hard...if WEEK ONE...was the real New England...GONNA BE A LONG YEAR...May be ONE OF WEAKEST DIVISIONS IN NFL...
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                        • Grinder12000
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-21-11
                          • 1809

                          #13
                          I'm all over New England. Oddsmakers know what they are doing and this line should be more in reality. After a close win think they will be focused at home and looking to blow someone out and send a message to the league? yea.

                          teasers can make you a lot of money if done properly.
                          True - the problem you would make MORE money not playing them. That is where the teaser argument breaks down. It feels like you are winning a lot but you could be winning MORE.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            Who is Brady going to throw too? Amendola and Vereen definitely out. Gronk highly doubtful, let's call him out. Sudfeld and Dodson doubtful. Things are so bad that Nate Washington was resigned and may see time at WR.
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                            • Louisvillekid1
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-17-07
                              • 52143

                              #15
                              NE is so banged up,

                              Under looks like the obvious play at first glance
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                              • ebelisle22
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-27-11
                                • 4726

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SteveRyan
                                64% is on NE and will rise come Thurs. Public gonna get buried.
                                never get why people throw out these percentages. if your going to do that tell WHERE the percentages are coming from. its different everywhere, 66% one book on pats, 80% on NYJ another... fill in the details pal
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                                • crustyme
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-29-10
                                  • 16896

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                                  These are Rex Ryan's Superbowls. If Sanchez didn't play like he did against Pats on Thanksgiving all would be forgiven but he embarrassed the organization so bad that night.

                                  No doubt Rex Ryan spent his whole summer getting ready for this where as I gotta think Bellicheck had bigger fish to fry than the Jets.

                                  sanchez just about pulled the upset in n.e. last season.... except hill dropped the game clinching pass.
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                                  • Ernie Mccracken
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-11-11
                                    • 1986

                                    #18
                                    Nope

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                                    • SteveRyan
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-15-11
                                      • 1654

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                      Who is Brady going to throw too? Amendola and Vereen definitely out. Gronk highly doubtful, let's call him out. Sudfeld and Dodson doubtful. Things are so bad that Nate Washington was resigned and may see time at WR.
                                      Exactly. As usual, the public just assumes that NE is going throw down a massive score and blow their opponent off the map, when in reality, NE rarely covers large spreads....especially when they are down key players. The line is off. +12 is a gift. It's already at 12.5.

                                      Originally posted by ebelisle22
                                      never get why people throw out these percentages. if your going to do that tell WHERE the percentages are coming from. its different everywhere, 66% one book on pats, 80% on NYJ another... fill in the details pal
                                      Obviously, it represents online sportsbook wagering. The public is on NE. Of course! They are playing the Jets...right?

                                      That's the mindset of your average schmuck sports gambler. The Jets suck and NE will pound the crap out of em. Sure...NE will cover the 12 points....no problem.

                                      Of course, few of those people actually realize that the Pats haven't covered a 12 point spread in over 20 games.

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                                      • Dwil125
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-08-12
                                        • 2048

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SteveRyan
                                        64% is on NE and will rise come Thurs. Public gonna get buried.
                                        You think the jets win straight up??
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                                        • GunShard
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-05-10
                                          • 10032

                                          #21
                                          Patriots are dangerous after a loss, at home and a night game.

                                          They won. Just want to point out when they lose, they are a threat the next game.
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                                          • Dwil125
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-08-12
                                            • 2048

                                            #22
                                            ^ Patriots won?
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                                            • SteveRyan
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-15-11
                                              • 1654

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Dwil125
                                              ^ Patriots won?
                                              I know, right?

                                              Maybe they are dangerous when they dont cover...lol
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                                              • The Samurai
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 09-08-12
                                                • 425

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Grinder12000
                                                I'm all over New England. Oddsmakers know what they are doing and this line should be more in reality. After a close win think they will be focused at home and looking to blow someone out and send a message to the league? yea.



                                                True - the problem you would make MORE money not playing them. That is where the teaser argument breaks down. It feels like you are winning a lot but you could be winning MORE.
                                                If I can get nyj ( an NFL franchise) getting 20 points at any time, and ad it to a couple more crazy spreads, I'm gonna take it. Hate on teasers and miss the boat dude. I doubt that NE covers the # but I don't worry cuz I'm getting 7 more. There's also a factual thing called strategic teases. Teasing games set at -1.5 -2.5 -7.5 and so fourth. If you don't see those lines and realize games are less likely to end in those scores, don't know what to tell you
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                                                • birdmanweezy
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-18-10
                                                  • 4635

                                                  #25
                                                  Pats fan here...taking jets + points.....pats will win by a touchdown or so....will be low scoring pounding the ball with ridley....expect edelman to have a big game.....jets and under
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Pats an average team
                                                    Now


                                                    Jets can win outright
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                                                    • dink
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 09-11-13
                                                      • 665

                                                      #27
                                                      Dink picks over 43
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                                                      • GunShard
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                                                        • 03-05-10
                                                        • 10032

                                                        #28
                                                        Bottom 3 quarterbacks:

                                                        Brandon Weeden
                                                        Blaine Gabbert
                                                        Geno Smith
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                                                        • 2daBank
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-26-09
                                                          • 88966

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by GunShard
                                                          Bottom 3 quarterbacks:

                                                          Brandon Weeden
                                                          Blaine Gabbert
                                                          Geno Smith
                                                          You have gabbert ranked way to high. Geno better than him along with at least 2/3 of the backups in the league...
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                                                          • birdmanweezy
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-18-10
                                                            • 4635

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by GunShard
                                                            Bottom 3 quarterbacks:

                                                            Brandon Weeden
                                                            Blaine Gabbert
                                                            Geno Smith
                                                            ponder is on that list
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                                                            • Jikos
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                                                              • 04-28-13
                                                              • 1663

                                                              #31
                                                              I think the Jets certainly are capable of covering the spread and even winning straight up this Thursday however the odds are not in your favor if you bet on them. New England is a dangerous team at home, they are pure professional at what they do; they severely underperformed last week and are well aware that everyone else is also well aware of this; they are going to go out with the intention of embarrassing an inexperienced team that most likely has the mindset of go out there and give it your best shot, which they very well may, and like I said the Jets are capable of covering the spread and even winning straight up but the edge goes to NE here.
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                                                              • bringyourDgame
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 01-23-11
                                                                • 386

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Jikos
                                                                I think the Jets certainly are capable of covering the spread and even winning straight up this Thursday however the odds are not in your favor if you bet on them. New England is a dangerous team at home, they are pure professional at what they do; they severely underperformed last week and are well aware that everyone else is also well aware of this; they are going to go out with the intention of embarrassing an inexperienced team that most likely has the mindset of go out there and give it your best shot, which they very well may, and like I said the Jets are capable of covering the spread and even winning straight up but the edge goes to NE here.
                                                                This is the reason I'm staying away. Can see (receiver-less) Patriots blowing this up but of course all those points on the Jets look juicy given the situation in NE.
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                                                                • New England Pats
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 01-09-13
                                                                  • 117

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Jets should be able to cover double digits against the roster New England is scratching together. However, the win won't be in jeopardy for the Pats. They have too much knowledge about this Jets team, defensively they'll turn the ball over enough and offensively they won't be fooled by anything for any considerable length of time. What you're going to see is New England be efficient on first down with their running game, getting 3, 4 or 5 yards. From there, they don't need a list of top notch talent for Brady to throw to. It'll be like playing checkers for #12 when they get the job done on first down. Jets to cover the +12, but only just..
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                                                                  • SteveRyan
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-15-11
                                                                    • 1654

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Brady is going to over-work Edelman and with Cromartie covering it wont be easy for either of em.
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                                                                    • pixster
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-25-11
                                                                      • 1386

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by GunShard
                                                                      Bottom 3 quarterbacks:

                                                                      Brandon Weeden
                                                                      Blaine Gabbert
                                                                      Geno Smith
                                                                      According to who!?

                                                                      Week 1 QB rankings from legit sources have Geno Smith out of the bottom 10. And interestingly, those same sources - the NFL's official stats/ratings, ESPN's Total QBR - don't have Tom Brady in the top 10.
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