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  • dilaudid8
    SBR MVP
    • 10-19-10
    • 1866

    #1051
    bank that ILL game I don't no because ILL is so bad. I took ILL last week against MICH STATE at home and this team looked like they really did not want to even play football. they could win because pen state should not be giving 10 points to anybody but ILL really scare me they have a good QB but nothing else
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #1052
      Originally posted by dilaudid8
      bank that ILL game I don't no because ILL is so bad. I took ILL last week against MICH STATE at home and this team looked like they really did not want to even play football. they could win because pen state should not be giving 10 points to anybody but ILL really scare me they have a good QB but nothing else
      oh yea they suck for sure. just seems little strange to me so many ppl wanna lay all them points with psu.. hell if i know tho, i hate the big10 anyways.. really besides few nice spot plays ive been pretty bad at college this yr so havnt been trying to pay much attention so i bet less and save it for NFL where im doing much better..

      i do watch mizzou most weeks tho and i dont think they gonna bounce back well from blowing that gm vs scary last week..like the vols getting anything over 10. if vols wernt such fuk ups id say they could win but ill just take the points.. that only play of mine today. prob tail friend on mich st and tail you with iowa...
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      • dilaudid8
        SBR MVP
        • 10-19-10
        • 1866

        #1053
        bank I agree with you 100 percent MIZZ had there chance I was going to take tenn just like you. after I took a look at who the QB is going to be for tenn a 1 time rookie on the road I don't no bol
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #1054
          Originally posted by 2daBank
          week 9 sunday

          pit +7 -120 (1.5x)..really like the steelers here,, may be sounding like a broken record by now but since pats lost wilfork, mayo, and kelly they been getting tuned up for over 150 per game on the ground, i like the way Bell runs and i think he goes for 100+ easy here and helps pit control the top in this gm.. i guess the big issue here is brady has a history of ripping apart this this pit d but lets be real this aint the same brady and he still not on page with his guys, not to mention he seemed pretty banged up to me.. think this gm is gonna be a flat out slugfest with both teams pounding the rock, pit fighting for their lives here to remain relevant and despite the hiccup in oak (which we kinda expected) they have played much better fb since the bye, mostly cause Bell is a very good rusher and makes this team better all around. pats only converting 32% of their 3rd down chances as brady continues to struggle and the defense has been severely trending down in this category allowing teams to convert 3rd downs 46% of the time their last 3 gms. i think pit will run and run successfully and big dummy will be able to stay in 3rd and manageable where he can check down to miller to keep the sticks moving..pats will have some ground success as well, think we talking pretty low here, like 23 points will be enough to win (maybe even 20) so points are at a big time premium imo.. quite honestly i wouldnt be shocked if pit found a way to win but ill happily take a td in this one.. if we looking for totals to tease dont think it losing if you tease this total to 49 and play under..
          ravens-1.5 (1.5x).. i respect and appreciate you guys that tried to get me off this gm like i asked but i just cant help myself here.. obviously my "square" hat on in this one as clearly smarter ppl or at least cats with more money than me driving this line the opposite direction than i think it should be going.. all i can say is i made this balty-4 and i think that was being very fair to the brownies as ya'll know i have bet this team several times (including the 1st week hoyer started after the t-rich trade and everyone was all over minny), i know that this a solid team and will be up and comers once they find a qb, that said campbell is not the answer, sure he is better than weeden and yea every gm browns have played where that scrub wasnt the qb they have been decent at least, im sorry campbell supporters but being better than a 45 year old guy who just left college last year doesnt mean you are good after a 12 yr career of backup mediocrity..

          bottom line is i still believe in balty as a team and organization from top to bottom, yea they got raked over the coals due to flucco having a great playoff run but they still a smart club and i feel have done a very good job of upgrading on d even with losing killer ray and old man reed, this dline is a fearsome group who ranks 2nd in the league in sack percentage and flat out pressures the qb, they facing a cle offense that presents absolutely no threat of a running gm and will be able to pin their ears back and do what they do best here..it would be irresponsible for me not to admit while im saying cle has no threat of a run gm that yes in fact balty rushing attack has been every bit as bad as browns if not worse, i understand that, however i believe cle run gm is what it is and has been since drafting t-rich and since trading him, they just not a strong rushing team period. while balty has struggled i cant help but look at them and not believe their problems cant be fixed with the guys they have up front and ray rice who has proven to be a premiere back in this league who is still well within his prime. so yea im projecting a little as there not a stat out their that makes it fair for me to say cle is unable to run (true and proven) but balty can run (total speculation on my part) but that is exactly how i feel and coming off a few tough losses and a bye week i trust harbaugh (who is perfect off bye's btw) to step in and let the OC know it time for this team to get back to making rice the focal point of the offense...

          in the end i expect another defensive battle here as these typically are. i expect balty to out rush cle as they typically do. i know that smith will more than likely be a non factor but i like me some marlon brown and think he will catch a td this week but the driving force gonna be ray rice and the ultimate difference in a tough defensive battle is gonna be the fact balty is the best red zone defense in the league allowing teams to get 7 on only 26% of their red zone opportunities (a stat that they were also number 1 in last season) while cle is among the worst in the league with teams punching it in from close over 65% of the time.. sure browns may hit a big one to gordon but you will see a lot more 3 and outs with campbell checking down or taking sacks on 3rd and long as ravens come out of the bye and get a win they have to have against a team they beat over and over, maybe most have given up on this team for the season and while i think at best they a fringe playoff team who wont go far if they get in i know they believe they are a playoff team and the defending champs will come out and play like it sunday.... 24-14 ravens
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #1055
            Originally posted by dilaudid8
            bank I agree with you 100 percent MIZZ had there chance I was going to take tenn just like you. after I took a look at who the QB is going to be for tenn a 1 time rookie on the road I don't no bol
            yea dont love the idea it a 18 year olds 1st start on the road, i do think he looked pretty composed when he got thrown into bama gm.. really has nothing to do with vols or who their qb is as much as ive seen this story from mizzou a lot of times over the years in the big 12, they start out looking great, get hit with a bad loss (although used to be tex blowing them out not a close heartbreaker) then they come falling like a rock and go to some shit bowl gm and celebrate their 9-10 win season..
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            • Manel88
              SBR High Roller
              • 03-19-12
              • 191

              #1056
              What is your record 2daBank?
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              • YOUNGBUCK
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-16-10
                • 6510

                #1057
                Like the Ravens Bank and may play the Jets, idk how I feel Ab The Colts line is scaring me
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                • ghetto1
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 10-13-09
                  • 174

                  #1058
                  what the picks tomo bank?
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                  • Flagrant1
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 02-22-13
                    • 90

                    #1059
                    To Bank and everybody else in this thread, I really appreciate the analysis. I'm going with the Jets and Texans in a ml parlay tomorrow.
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #1060
                      Originally posted by YOUNGBUCK
                      Like the Ravens Bank and may play the Jets, idk how I feel Ab The Colts line is scaring me
                      im still torn on that indy/hou gm and was really hoping that we end up getting some plus money.. im cetainly in no rush to bet it, lets call it like foster a game time decision...ill worry bout that 1 after the day games..

                      if they fukk around and give me 7 ill will play jets but they gonna have to give me little encouragement.. i mean i think they can and will run on saints, i dont think saints offense is as scary away from the nice cozy dome, and i would def expect jets d to play better after being embarrassed.. biggest problem is if they cant produce enough points out of the run gm or something goes wrong early where geno is forced to pass more against saints who will give hi a ton of looks.. i think they pound the hell out of therock and that should lead to easy defined reads for him and i certainly dont worry bout his arm with a little wind. still it is the saints and 7 would be nice..in the end ill prob play regardless but ive just been really holding out trying to get most i can..
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                      • Nicksweger42
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 04-14-13
                        • 72

                        #1061
                        Sounds like ur making a nice case for the under bank?
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #1062
                          Sorry if you've already addressed this, Banker, but what about your Lambs tomorrow?
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                          • YOUNGBUCK
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-16-10
                            • 6510

                            #1063
                            Bank got some Soccer posted for you
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #1064
                              Originally Posted by 2daBank
                              week 9 sunday

                              pit +7 -120 (1.5x)..really like the steelers here,, may be sounding like a broken record by now but since pats lost wilfork, mayo, and kelly they been getting tuned up for over 150 per game on the ground, i like the way Bell runs and i think he goes for 100+ easy here and helps pit control the top in this gm.. i guess the big issue here is brady has a history of ripping apart this this pit d but lets be real this aint the same brady and he still not on page with his guys, not to mention he seemed pretty banged up to me.. think this gm is gonna be a flat out slugfest with both teams pounding the rock, pit fighting for their lives here to remain relevant and despite the hiccup in oak (which we kinda expected) they have played much better fb since the bye, mostly cause Bell is a very good rusher and makes this team better all around. pats only converting 32% of their 3rd down chances as brady continues to struggle and the defense has been severely trending down in this category allowing teams to convert 3rd downs 46% of the time their last 3 gms. i think pit will run and run successfully and big dummy will be able to stay in 3rd and manageable where he can check down to miller to keep the sticks moving..pats will have some ground success as well, think we talking pretty low here, like 23 points will be enough to win (maybe even 20) so points are at a big time premium imo.. quite honestly i wouldnt be shocked if pit found a way to win but ill happily take a td in this one.. if we looking for totals to tease dont think it losing if you tease this total to 49 and play under..



                              Originally posted by 2daBank

                              ravens-1.5 (1.5x).. i respect and appreciate you guys that tried to get me off this gm like i asked but i just cant help myself here.. obviously my "square" hat on in this one as clearly smarter ppl or at least cats with more money than me driving this line the opposite direction than i think it should be going.. all i can say is i made this balty-4 and i think that was being very fair to the brownies as ya'll know i have bet this team several times (including the 1st week hoyer started after the t-rich trade and everyone was all over minny), i know that this a solid team and will be up and comers once they find a qb, that said campbell is not the answer, sure he is better than weeden and yea every gm browns have played where that scrub wasnt the qb they have been decent at least, im sorry campbell supporters but being better than a 45 year old guy who just left college last year doesnt mean you are good after a 12 yr career of backup mediocrity..

                              bottom line is i still believe in balty as a team and organization from top to bottom, yea they got raked over the coals due to flucco having a great playoff run but they still a smart club and i feel have done a very good job of upgrading on d even with losing killer ray and old man reed, this dline is a fearsome group who ranks 2nd in the league in sack percentage and flat out pressures the qb, they facing a cle offense that presents absolutely no threat of a running gm and will be able to pin their ears back and do what they do best here..it would be irresponsible for me not to admit while im saying cle has no threat of a run gm that yes in fact balty rushing attack has been every bit as bad as browns if not worse, i understand that, however i believe cle run gm is what it is and has been since drafting t-rich and since trading him, they just not a strong rushing team period. while balty has struggled i cant help but look at them and not believe their problems cant be fixed with the guys they have up front and ray rice who has proven to be a premiere back in this league who is still well within his prime. so yea im projecting a little as there not a stat out their that makes it fair for me to say cle is unable to run (true and proven) but balty can run (total speculation on my part) but that is exactly how i feel and coming off a few tough losses and a bye week i trust harbaugh (who is perfect off bye's btw) to step in and let the OC know it time for this team to get back to making rice the focal point of the offense...

                              in the end i expect another defensive battle here as these typically are. i expect balty to out rush cle as they typically do. i know that smith will more than likely be a non factor but i like me some marlon brown and think he will catch a td this week but the driving force gonna be ray rice and the ultimate difference in a tough defensive battle is gonna be the fact balty is the best red zone defense in the league allowing teams to get 7 on only 26% of their red zone opportunities (a stat that they were also number 1 in last season) while cle is among the worst in the league with teams punching it in from close over 65% of the time.. sure browns may hit a big one to gordon but you will see a lot more 3 and outs with campbell checking down or taking sacks on 3rd and long as ravens come out of the bye and get a win they have to have against a team they beat over and over, maybe most have given up on this team for the season and while i think at best they a fringe playoff team who wont go far if they get in i know they believe they are a playoff team and the defending champs will come out and play like it sunday.... 24-14 ravens
                              2 team 6 point teaser (1.5x)

                              panthers-1.5
                              ten/stl un 45.5

                              talked about the panthers plenty (all year really), i actually think they cover the number but just feel better going this route as sure maybe atl makes a gm out of it but i just see no way no how they come and pull out the W.

                              far as the total ive been back and forth on whether i preferred lambs teased up or this number teased down and while i think both should be good i made this number 37 and to be honest that felt high to me, i cant find points for shit in this gm. maybe the fact fisher and greg williams know each other so well they can figure out someth9ing that works but this has defensive struggle written all over it with the only scores coming from defense/special teams/ and maybe cj breaks one. i feel like 12-9 wouldnt shock me here. .. of coarse we been going over this the last few weeks where i dont feel comfortable with these low ass numbers with way gm is played and i think this gm be close enough i suppose there a outside shot at a 20-20 score with next fg wins but that my absolute worst case so teasing this number over 45 feels about as good as it gets to me and i liked it better than any other option to pair with panthers in this tease..
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                              • 2daBank
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-26-09
                                • 88966

                                #1065
                                Originally posted by No coincidences
                                Sorry if you've already addressed this, Banker, but what about your Lambs tomorrow?
                                ended up teasing the under opposed to teasing rams, i like both., i think this gonna be pretty much rinse and repeat from monday night. maybe not with lambs controlling the gm but same type of score and gm. i dont see how it could really go any other way? goodchance oi play 1st half under 20 as well.. far as lambs themselves i dunno, clemmons little sloppy and ten really good at showing ya multiple looks, neither team winning would surprise me so i wouldnt call you crazy for taking the + money but ten is off a bye and rams off a short week, even tho i think despite what a lot of ppl prob think that mon night will give this team a little momentum and as if i didnt already not buy into that gm after seachickens trend lets be real if anyone was doing the beating up in that gm it was stl (although stacy did get dinged up i think he fine)..
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                                • No coincidences
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-18-10
                                  • 76300

                                  #1066
                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                  ended up teasing the under opposed to teasing rams, i like both., i think this gonna be pretty much rinse and repeat from monday night. maybe not with lambs controlling the gm but same type of score and gm. i dont see how it could really go any other way? goodchance oi play 1st half under 20 as well.. far as lambs themselves i dunno, clemmons little sloppy and ten really good at showing ya multiple looks, neither team winning would surprise me so i wouldnt call you crazy for taking the + money but ten is off a bye and rams off a short week, even tho i think despite what a lot of ppl prob think that mon night will give this team a little momentum and as if i didnt already not buy into that gm after seachickens trend lets be real if anyone was doing the beating up in that gm it was stl (although stacy did get dinged up i think he fine)..
                                  It's too bad the Rams didn't win that game. They should have.
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #1067
                                    Originally posted by No coincidences
                                    It's too bad the Rams didn't win that game. They should have.
                                    OC has and always will be a retard.. even if stacy couldnt go back in i still just cant fathom going empty set shotgun in that spot..
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                                    • No coincidences
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-18-10
                                      • 76300

                                      #1068
                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                      OC has and always will be a retard.. even if stacy couldnt go back in i still just cant fathom going empty set shotgun in that spot..
                                      Awful. I agree.
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #1069
                                        man i really fukked up not playing that min/dal over the other day when we were discussing it.. i guess it just a pass for me now.. call it a screw up on my part for not getting after the card when i should have as now the number way closer to where i made it than the 47 available when we were talking bout it.. shit..
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                                        • 2daBank
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #1070
                                          Originally posted by Nicksweger42
                                          Sounds like ur making a nice case for the under bank?
                                          in which one?
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                                          • kiwiNFL
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 09-28-13
                                            • 3

                                            #1071
                                            Hey Bank, love what you are doing in this thread, really interesting reading your analysis rather than the standard "lock of the year" bullshit. I'm a big rugby league follower but I am getting back into following NFl again and I am loving it. You mentioned earlier that judging defences on meters allowed is stupid, what do you judge it on? Sorry for the dumb question but I really don't know. Keep up the good work!
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                                            • steveq
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 11-22-12
                                              • 661

                                              #1072
                                              Nice head u get i get the blues mmmmost enjoyable
                                              thanks for all the grat insight gents
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                                              • wizcodlifa
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-10-12
                                                • 921

                                                #1073
                                                Anyone's opinion on these? Chiefs ML. Chiefs -3. Ravens -2. Raiders -2. Cowboys -9.5. Rams +3
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                                                • TexasJayhawk
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 10-02-13
                                                  • 181

                                                  #1074
                                                  Bank, quick question..you don't think Tenn having Locker back is a concern taking the under Tenn/Stl?
                                                  I'm def with you on this, but Tenn was scoring higher when he was playing..(24 in 4 games he started...16 in 2 w/out him)..
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                                                  • killersweet
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-02-08
                                                    • 1483

                                                    #1075
                                                    Definitely like my Steelers to cover this weekend. Also like your Balti play as well. So I think Jets will get back to playing some decent defense this weekend after the beating last weekend. Also see lots of running in that game. So leaning towards the under in that game. Also liking the Titans for some reason. I am thinking to tease Pitt and Balti this weekend.
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                                                    • 2daBank
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                      • 88966

                                                      #1076
                                                      Originally posted by TexasJayhawk
                                                      Bank, quick question..you don't think Tenn having Locker back is a concern taking the under Tenn/Stl?
                                                      I'm def with you on this, but Tenn was scoring higher when he was playing..(24 in 4 games he started...16 in 2 w/out him)..
                                                      not real concerned because titans wrs dont scare me much.. trust me if titans score 24 rams wont be keeping up..
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                                                      • 2daBank
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                        • 88966

                                                        #1077
                                                        Originally posted by kiwiNFL
                                                        Hey Bank, love what you are doing in this thread, really interesting reading your analysis rather than the standard "lock of the year" bullshit. I'm a big rugby league follower but I am getting back into following NFl again and I am loving it. You mentioned earlier that judging defences on meters allowed is stupid, what do you judge it on? Sorry for the dumb question but I really don't know. Keep up the good work!
                                                        not a problem my man,,,im sure this is subjective but i much rather look at a teams sack percentage, completion percentage allowed, yards per completion, opponents qb rating against, passing tds against, sorry there another one i really like im forgetting at the moment but havnt got my 1st cup of coffee in me yet so brain isnt quite up to full speed.. the thing is yards against can be so deceiving, i mean look how many yards cincy racked up thu night against mia, so you mean to tell me you should rate that defense based off that? yards to me dont mean shit if they dont produce points or they be compiled when a team down and throwing a ton, so while sure at some point i do look at that stat it way down my list of importance..
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                                                        • 2daBank
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-26-09
                                                          • 88966

                                                          #1078
                                                          Originally posted by wizcodlifa
                                                          Anyone's opinion on these? Chiefs ML. Chiefs -3. Ravens -2. Raiders -2. Cowboys -9.5. Rams +3
                                                          honestly id be on the bills if thad lewis was starting, just passing cause of qb situation...

                                                          i personally dont like raiders this week, maybe just cause im not used to them being favs or the popular choice but that gm was another total pass for me..

                                                          i couldnt lay that many points with dal, do i think they are that many points better than minny? most likely, do i trust them to cover a number like that? not really..i would have played the over in dal if my head wasnt up my ass and let it go from 47 to 49.5 like a idiot, now prob just another pass. if you really like dal i think id play their tt over before i would lay almost double digits..

                                                          love the ravens even if it makes me a sucker...

                                                          rams i think flip a coin, i couldnt make a real strong case for either side..
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                                                          • BiffTFinancial
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-29-09
                                                            • 22670

                                                            #1079
                                                            Morning, Bank. How do you like Chargers/Skins over, Vikings/Cowboys over?

                                                            Love the Skins to get points so long as they don't play an injured and hampered Griffin (hope they've learned their lesson on that). Skins defense putrid. I think 27-24 about as low as i can see that one going, and high ceiling. My model has around 60 points.

                                                            Vikings defense also putrid and without Demarcus Ware, Cowboys defense can be had by pretty much anyone. I get a range of 52 to 55 for that one, also a high ceiling, and though i missed a good number, i still think it hits. maybe play it smaller.

                                                            Also teased Stillers + Saints and played Bills +3'. Chiefs haven't been covering against third string QBs at home, why think they'll cover -3' (possibly in the snow) in Buffalo?
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                                                            • BiffTFinancial
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-29-09
                                                              • 22670

                                                              #1080
                                                              Aha, see your thoughts on Vikes/Cowboys similar to mine: kicking myself for missing good number.
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                                                              • 2daBank
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-26-09
                                                                • 88966

                                                                #1081
                                                                Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                                                                Aha, see your thoughts on Vikes/Cowboys similar to mine: kicking myself for missing good number.
                                                                yea i fukked that one up big time.. i made it like 51-54 so i guess i still like but no business not betting it when it was 47, lot less bang for the buck at 49.5...hell it hitting 50 now..pretty pissed at myself, i been pretty good at getting on top of overs i like before they jump, not this one and now it just a pass and ill watch it prob still go over.
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                                                                • dilaudid8
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-19-10
                                                                  • 1866

                                                                  #1082
                                                                  bank call on ILL yesterday nice eye
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                                                                  • fecgp40
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-01-11
                                                                    • 5750

                                                                    #1083
                                                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                    yea i fukked that one up big time.. i made it like 51-54 so i guess i still like but no business not betting it when it was 47, lot less bang for the buck at 49.5...hell it hitting 50 now..pretty pissed at myself, i been pretty good at getting on top of overs i like before they jump, not this one and now it just a pass and ill watch it prob still go over.
                                                                    Why not tease that over with Balty?? Seems like a good bet to me. GL today Bank. Thanks for all your input and write-ups.
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                                                                    • dilaudid8
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-19-10
                                                                      • 1866

                                                                      #1084
                                                                      MF IOWA was down 14-9 in the 4 Q with 6 nn to play and they had the ball the MF throws an INT I was saying to myself don't throw an INT and IOWA will cover what does he do he throws int
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                                                                      • 2daBank
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                                        • 88966

                                                                        #1085
                                                                        Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                                                                        Morning, Bank. How do you like Chargers/Skins over, Vikings/Cowboys over?

                                                                        Love the Skins to get points so long as they don't play an injured and hampered Griffin (hope they've learned their lesson on that). Skins defense putrid. I think 27-24 about as low as i can see that one going, and high ceiling. My model has around 60 points.

                                                                        Vikings defense also putrid and without Demarcus Ware, Cowboys defense can be had by pretty much anyone. I get a range of 52 to 55 for that one, also a high ceiling, and though i missed a good number, i still think it hits. maybe play it smaller.

                                                                        Also teased Stillers + Saints and played Bills +3'. Chiefs haven't been covering against third string QBs at home, why think they'll cover -3' (possibly in the snow) in Buffalo?
                                                                        i do lean over in washington but kept getting stuck on the fact there very well could be a lot of rushing in this gm.. kinda have the idea in my head to wait on this one till halftime or live and see if it does maybe start slow i can get a better number... basically same range as you on dal gm, again just mad at myself cause i knew thu i liked this over, just didnt wanna bet till i actually did the number..

                                                                        i know im retarded but i have it in my head jets can beat saints today.. i doubt it happens just keeps creeping in my head and i do like the jets with the points so i mean lets hope saints win by 4 as that bout where i put number..

                                                                        i cant argue fading kc here, i would have been with thad lewis at qb, and maybe it shouldnt matter but it was enough for me to leave alone, i dont think snow would really effect kc that negatively, not like they some warm weather dome team and their style certainly isnt that of one..
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