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  • 2daBank
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-26-09
    • 88966

    #666
    Originally Posted by 2daBank
    week 5


    den/dal ov 55.5 (1.5x)...square me up with den overs, while sure they are inflated i think books prisoners right now as they cant reasonable line these gms where they should be imo, last week i made the number 66.5 and that was low thanx to a garbage time td. i made it slightly lower this week but 64 is my number so once again even with this jacked up line i see a lot of value in the over (1st time in my life i recall having totals that i think are more than a td off!)..opponents pass a lot on both these teams and both these teams like to pass avg right around 40 attempts per gm, maybe kiffen's cover 2 forces den to take a little longer but peyton knows this defense well and will pick it apart, just cant envision broncos not scoring 30+.. romo a gunslinger and i think he and dez will be gm here to try and hang with den for a while anyway, i put dal in the 27-31 range, add that to den and think we talking about another gm that is played in the 60s..playing it now cause cant imagine this doesnt tick over 56..



    Originally posted by 2daBank
    sd/oak ov 45 (1x)... when you look at the horrific defensive numbers both these teams sporting it makes ya think the only reason this number isnt 49 is cause the offenses arnt all that highly thought of, understandable in oak case but sd has proven me wrong enough to believe this number is very attainable..

    1st the defenses, oak is dead last in opponents completion percentage allowing teams to complete 72% of their passes while sd is a much better 29th allowing 68%! both teams rank in the bottom 7 in the league allowing teams to convert 3rd downs well over 40% of the time. once you drive the field on these scrubs oak allows you to score tds 69% of the time on red zone trips and sd rather generous themselves letting teams walk in right bout 60% of the time..if that isnt enough sd allows a pathetic 5.2 yards per carry..

    the nice thing about these defensive numbers is they just so happen to play into the offenses strengths,, chargers are 2nd behind den completing 73% of their passes and convert 3rd downs at a 50% clip. so we have a prolific charger passing attack vs a miserable oak pass defense..it gets better cause with pryor returning oak has a strong run gm (no matter who the back is), perfect to take adv of chargers run defense, once oak forces sd to put 8 in the box chargers allow one of the highest yards per completion in the league so id expect moore and streeter to be able to do some damage over the top as well as pryor with his legs as sd doesnt create any pressure on the passer either!

    bottom line is neither defense can get off the field and both offenses do a good job of prolonging drives, while it could be concerning that we get long time consuming drives that dont end in points that isnt very likely considering how generous both defenses are when teams get down close.. not counting any kind of defensive or special teams plays i think we see a minimum of 8 scoring drives that will result in 6tds and a few fgs which puts us at 48 with the possibility of more....

    chi ml +103 (2x)... been waiting to bet this gm all week figuring the line would flip, hopefully im not being to impatient now as maybe it goes up more? either way i feel good with anything plus is great in a gm i am pretty confident that the bears win..

    yes bears stumbled last week and the much improve oline got whipped by a incredibly talented defensive front in a very noisy environment..yes saints defense is much improved as i been talking them up more every week but they have no where near the talent up front that det has, they beat you with scheme as ryan does a incredible job using the personal he has and showing teams a lot of looks..

    i think tessman's offense is built to deal with this, 1st off saints allow a league worst 5.5 ypc and tressman uses forte as the weapon he is, id expect him to have a monster gm. despite getting beat mono a mono in the dome last week this oline has been coached up wonderfully (coincidentally by saints former oline coach) and the rookies are playing great.. i believe the bears can be successful enough on the ground that it will force saints to give cutler more defined looks as the will have to either continue getting gashed or stop moving guys around. i think the oline is working well as a unit and will be able to pick up the pressures saints bring as again saints guys arnt just lining up and beating your man..if the line can work together and not let open rushers free cutler has some big time mismatches with those 2 big boys on the outside and bennett in the middle, that some serious size saints corners cant handle...

    on the other side i mentioned last week how much i felt the bears d has dropped off, they been giving up too many yards per play and #1 wrs have killed them in a few matchups, they still making plays but they allowing teams to move far to easily...they need to get back to a little more bend but dont break and i think they will against the saints, the run gm shouldnt scare them too much as saints not running the ball all that well, saints gonna drop back and pass. the dline has to get some pressure and i think they will at times but brees will get his, the key here is lettign him get his between the 20s and force him to take a lot of plays doing it which i believe bears can. once saints get to the red zone bears hold the adv as they typically one of the better red zone defenses in the league and saints red zone execution has been lacking the majority of the season..

    bottom line is saints have never been as good away from home on grass, soldier field isnt exactly the place id wanna be if i had to play on grass, bears coming off a bad loss in a tough place in a gm i expected them to lose. saints coming off doing what they do best and whipping the shit out of someone in the thunderdome monday night, so now of coarse everyone thinks saints so much better than the bears, in superdome they prob are, however this bears offense is a big step up in class compared to what the saints have seen thus far and i expect a d i like to get exposed a little bit here..while bears go back to playing bend but dont break, force some fgs, and maybe even get a turnover..i like bears in a close one 27-23..
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #667
      Bungals ml -103 (1x)....again might be able to get better number in morning but i dont have time to do all this then

      alright lets see if pats can get me again, last week they took it to atl but you will never be able to explain to me wtf atl is doing in the red zone these days? horrid play calling and execution (more playcalling)..that neither here nor there but i bring this up cause atl had several red zone trips on this pats d and just settled far to often to stay in the gm,,,

      now pats get a cincy team who is very efficient in the red zone and with good reason as the power run gm sets up other options, to make matters worse for the pats is they lost one of their most valuable players in wolford, dude a beast and makes it incredibly difficult to run and he gets push up the middle to help the pass rush as well..with him gone i believe now the time for cincy to re establish a run gm, and use gio a ton as he a matchup nightmare once he gets to the second level and pats lbs arnt exactly fast.. this gm is due to be played in crappy weather, wind, rain, some thundershowers and this is all gonna play into forcing cincy to play the kind of gm they need to..in this type of gm you gotta love the bungals defense, that front 7 is stout and wont let pats run on them, in good conditions they dont allow 300 yard passers, and quite frankly they the more physical group..

      looking for this to be a slop fest grind it out type gm with lots of running, plenty of punts, a few mistakes, in a gm like that i want the team i feel will have more success running, the team with the better defense, the team that has the weapons to take a few shots deep once pats over commit to the run..cincy isnt as bad as they played last week and i continue to stick by my story that while pats a solid team they not as good as their record..think this is rather low with cincy winning somewhat easily..23-17
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #668
        balty ml +127 (2x).. one of these gms that was tough for me cause i like the phins, of coarse ya know i also feel like balty underrated and hold firm on that despite that miserable performance last week (just happy i laid off)...

        i have to believe that harbaugh is gonna sit that idiot caldwell down and devise a gm plan that not only involves running it more than 16 times but in fact think they will have more rushes than passes this week,, couldnt be a better time to make this adjustment than against a phins team that is much better vs the pass than run. atl gashed this team with the run gm and controlled the entire gm and mai had no answers. the addition of former top 10 pick monroe cant do anything but bolster a ravens rushing attack that has been miserable. this is the week that changes as i believe balt comes with a attitude in the run gm and dominates the los.. if that not enough you may have noticed sproles in mismatches all over in the passing gm and id expect rice to cause similar problems...

        offensively fish really dont do anything especially well, they make plays when they need to but overall the run gm has been a disappointment going against a stingy balty run d, they have tennenhill throwing way to often which puts pressure on a oline that is far from elite, id call them bad but i think a lot of the sacks they give up are on the qb, obviously it a combination of both but allowing 4.5 sacks a gm kills a lot of drives. enter tsizzle and his band of monsters up front and think tennenhill could be in for a long day

        balt is still the defending champs with a lot of good players that have a lot of pride coming off a miserable performance...i like the phins, think they a year away and this a gm the defending champs get to stay in the mix of upper echelon teams..
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #669
          ok dont take this one to seriously..i was trying to figure out my 2 team 6 point teaser for the week and was having some problems coming up with the 2 teams so ended up with this 6 teamer, lol...

          pays +710, just a half unit for 3.55....


          bal+8.5
          indy+8.5
          pack-3
          kc/ten un 44.5
          pats/cincy un 51
          car/zona un 48

          look im the 1st to say that the way to win with teasers is to stick with 6 point 2 teamers, where ppl go wrong is adding teams cause it easy to do as wtf doesnt look good when you add 6 points? but inevitably at least 1 or 2 gonna be wrong. problem is while i always stick to that rule i started clicking teams and couldnt stop, i also never tease totals but with the way the nfl is these days if you like a under it cant help getting a extra td....obviously i dont think this hits and i wouldnt recommend tailing it but man it looks good..

          was dying to play the kc/ten under but in this day and age totals under 40 scare me, i made 44 the high side of this gm and actually lean more toward 20-17 so just looked great teased..

          same goes for car/zona..lean under where it currently sits but i worry a dfensive or sp td by either team could burn that low number, feel like im protected from that now as this should be a defensive struggle where 24 outta be enough to win..

          pats/cin.another one i lean under at 45 but it is the pats and cincy has big play potential, should be a gm with a ton of rushing played in wind and rain, taking it up to 51 protects me form even if these 2 get into a bit of a shootout..

          bal+8.5 is a no brainer, obviously i think they win as i bet the ml..if they do lose it wont be by much..

          indy+8.5...ok while once again id like to bet against sea im more hesitant this week simply cause indy doesnt bring the d that panthers and hou did..on the other hand i know luck wont throw the gm away and i think they can pound trich enough and make a few plays for it to be close..while i could see sea jump out with this much cushion good chance luck brings them back within this number..

          pack-3.. dont love gb but think as long as they continue to work the run gm that will allow discount double bitch to stay upright more often, if that happens he will pick apart det decondary..gb off a bye isnt gonna lose more ground in the div today...

          there ya have it,,my teaser lotto ticket that i didnt mean to make but couldnt help myself,....still working on my actual 2 team 6 point teaser of the week, this just happened while i was searching..lol
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #670
            2 team 6 point teaser of the week..3-0 so far..(2x)


            bal+8.5
            pack-1.5

            again hard to saymuch about the teaser..balty i discussed plenty above....far as pack i get that det is improved and that their front can cause pack oline problems, i get det can prob score some points, but the bottom line is pack are better than their record, great at home where det never wins, coming off a bye, and not trying to fall further back in the div..i just dont think pack lose, no idea if they cover, id lean to no but none the less feel like they have a great chance of winning...
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            • amrit
              SBR MVP
              • 10-30-12
              • 1307

              #671
              haha banker I have a 4 team teaser this week myself....never normally do that. Den/Dallas over 49.5, KC/Ten under 44.5, Colts +9, and GB -1....looks really good, hopefully it hits
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              • 2daBank
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-26-09
                • 88966

                #672
                Originally posted by amrit
                haha banker I have a 4 team teaser this week myself....never normally do that. Den/Dallas over 49.5, KC/Ten under 44.5, Colts +9, and GB -1....looks really good, hopefully it hits
                yea i broke all kinds of rules with that 1, 1st off never do more than 2 teams, secondly i never tease totals, but what the hell i had a monster day yesterday and honestly the fukin thing looks really good, i mean they usually do but i went from having almost whole card teased screwing around then got serious and those 6 were hard to cut...one of the totals prob get me cause more times than not when i miss a total it not a close miss (sometimes, but seems more often than not it way off)...

                obviously i like yours also seeing how i played the den/dal ova 55.5 and i made that total 64 so you getting bunch of value there. i teased the kc un as well, think i like it straight but not like old times when i played totals under 40 all the time, these days harder to do but i think 24-20 is the extreme high side of that kc gm.. again i teased colts also, they kinda scare me but i lean them to win and even if sea too much 9 leaves room for a luck backdoor.. then gb my fav leg of teaser of the week..i think you cash, but again damn things always look good which is why i stick to 2 teams,.
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                • leetreaper
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 10-23-10
                  • 34841

                  #673
                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                  2 team 6 point teaser of the week..3-0 so far..(2x)


                  bal+8.5
                  pack-1.5

                  again hard to saymuch about the teaser..balty i discussed plenty above....far as pack i get that det is improved and that their front can cause pack oline problems, i get det can prob score some points, but the bottom line is pack are better than their record, great at home where det never wins, coming off a bye, and not trying to fall further back in the div..i just dont think pack lose, no idea if they cover, id lean to no but none the less feel like they have a great chance of winning...
                  This one looks like a winner.
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                  • 2daBank
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-26-09
                    • 88966

                    #674
                    Originally posted by leetreaper
                    This one looks like a winner.
                    hope so,,,have a pretty strong track record on the one a week of these i do..think last yr ended up 11-5 or 12-4 and perfect thus far this season (knock on wood)..of coarse lost my 1st thu night 1st half under this week so maybe it one of those weeks....i find 2 team 6 point teases in the nfl are gold if you can stick to just 1 a week and know what you doing, unlike these asshats that all tease gms that make no sense, like crossing 0 or adding points to a dog in a gm that figures to be more high scoring which obviously lessons the value of points imo..
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                    • Overbettor
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-08-11
                      • 951

                      #675
                      Bank, I love playing tt's and have narrowed it down to 3 I like but I just cant decide which I'd like to play at 1pm. I plan to hit one HARD btw. Which do u like better? Giants ov 27.5 packers ov 31 or maybe bears ov 24??
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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #676
                        Originally posted by Overbettor
                        Bank, I love playing tt's and have narrowed it down to 3 I like but I just cant decide which I'd like to play at 1pm. I plan to hit one HARD btw. Which do u like better? Giants ov 27.5 packers ov 31 or maybe bears ov 24??
                        nyg over 27.5,,even tho their offensive line scares the living shit out of me, not sure if philly has the d to exploit it.. plus they will get tons of chances between fast scores by philly, turnovers, and quick 3 nd outs.. i made the det/pack total a few points lower than the gm total and i think the bout right with det number so i guess i feel like pack number inflated a little (i put it at 27).. i think bears will prob go over but i could easily see them winning with 23-24 points..like bears more than their tt although they could get over that....
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                        • Overbettor
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                          • 11-08-11
                          • 951

                          #677
                          The giants were on the top of my list as well. Thanks for the response. One of the very few that I trust in here. Very gl to you today.
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                          • KyTn
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 09-15-13
                            • 349

                            #678
                            What do you thing about this 6 pt 2 teamer...

                            Sea/Indy over 37
                            SD/Oak over 38
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #679
                              Originally posted by KyTn
                              What do you thing about this 6 pt 2 teamer...

                              Sea/Indy over 37
                              SD/Oak over 38
                              i dont really tease totals bro..i made a exception with that stupid 6 teamer i did for kicks but teasing totals generally a no no for me...maybe madison will stop by later as he has success teasing them so can prob give you a better answer than i can...i mean i like the oak/sd over where it at anyway..not sure bout that sea/indy total, should go over that..
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                              • dilaudid8
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-19-10
                                • 1866

                                #680
                                bank bol my brother we have the same bets
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #681
                                  Originally posted by Overbettor
                                  The giants were on the top of my list as well. Thanks for the response. One of the very few that I trust in here. Very gl to you today.
                                  not a problem,, gl to you as well
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                                  • KyTn
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 09-15-13
                                    • 349

                                    #682
                                    Thanks. I am also leaning Den/Dal over 48. Peyton may do that alone.
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                                    • Vinnie Paz
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-27-12
                                      • 12177

                                      #683
                                      Discount double bitch?!
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                                      • Vinnie Paz
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-27-12
                                        • 12177

                                        #684
                                        Originally posted by KyTn
                                        Thanks. I am also leaning Den/Dal over 48. Peyton may do that alone.
                                        What?? Where is this number?
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                                        • 2daBank
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #685
                                          Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
                                          Discount double bitch?!
                                          my brother huge pack fan, his wife's fam all from gb,,been calling him that forever,,lol...
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                                          • NittanyLionsFan
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-26-10
                                            • 2857

                                            #686
                                            Lol this guy is fkn clueless
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                                            • 2daBank
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-26-09
                                              • 88966

                                              #687
                                              Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
                                              What?? Where is this number?
                                              he talking bout teasing them down..i actually pleased it up! lol
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                                              • 2daBank
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                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 88966

                                                #688
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                                                who let this fukkin flamer back round here...again you rooster sucking ferry no1 gives a penetrate bout you here any more than in real life..
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                                                • Vinnie Paz
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                                                  • 03-27-12
                                                  • 12177

                                                  #689
                                                  Lmao nittany back around now
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                                                  • Madison
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-16-11
                                                    • 6470

                                                    #690
                                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                    i dont really tease totals bro..i made a exception with that stupid 6 teamer i did for kicks but teasing totals generally a no no for me...maybe madison will stop by later as he has success teasing them so can prob give you a better answer than i can...i mean i like the oak/sd over where it at anyway..not sure bout that sea/indy total, should go over that..
                                                    Greetings Bank and others. Well, my success has been with 4 teamers. I play 2 team 6 pt sides similar in style to the Banker. BUT, I would never tease 6 pts on a total. I just don't feel the 6 pts is enough value in a total. 6 has way more impact on a side. Now, 13pt 4 teamers is another story. My theory over the last couple years is that a very high % cash regardless of the side as you have a 26 pt middle. Vegas so good at NFL totals that most games cover by default. Unfortunately they've caught on and I've only been able to find one site which offers them and at -130. Having a hard time swallowing 130, but I am 2-0 but being very careful obv.

                                                    Hope that helps. GL gentlemen.
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                                                    • dilaudid8
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-19-10
                                                      • 1866

                                                      #691
                                                      bank I think your 100 percent right about the under SEATTLE
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                                                      • dilaudid8
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-19-10
                                                        • 1866

                                                        #692
                                                        i'm sorry it's SF under
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                                                        • 2daBank
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-26-09
                                                          • 88966

                                                          #693
                                                          det/gb un 54 (1x)...been dieing to play this all week as i made this number 49-51 but cant lie scary cause lots could go wrong..the fact calvin is out enough to give me the courage...
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                                                          • KyTn
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 09-15-13
                                                            • 349

                                                            #694
                                                            Megatron OUT.

                                                            Marlon Brown and Jacoby Jones both out for Balt.
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #695
                                                              dont do many props but gonna try a few today for half unit each..

                                                              2 team parlay +216

                                                              ray rice over 3 receptions
                                                              giovani bernard ov 82.5 rushing/receiving yards


                                                              forte over 85.5 rushing yards +115

                                                              finely over 48.5 receiving yards -125


                                                              that all for me..im out for the day...thanx to everyone who contributed in the thread this week and gl to all
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                                                              • Dfjay9
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-04-08
                                                                • 1576

                                                                #696
                                                                Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                dont do many props but gonna try a few today for half unit each..

                                                                2 team parlay +216

                                                                ray rice over 3 receptions
                                                                giovani bernard ov 82.5 rushing/receiving yards


                                                                forte over 85.5 rushing yards +115

                                                                finely over 48.5 receiving yards -125


                                                                that all for me..im out for the day...thanx to everyone who contributed in the thread this week and gl to all
                                                                Thats funny because I looked at props for shits and giggles this morning and the Gio Bernard one stuck out to me. On that and Fleener o3.5 catches +110
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                                                                • R.P. McMurphy
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-15-12
                                                                  • 9654

                                                                  #697
                                                                  Good winnin to ya Banker! On Colts +3, Bears +1.5, Pack -7, Dallas +8, and probably take Oak later as well. Liking them home dogs this week. That 6t is crazy but actually looks pretty good I think lol.
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                                                                  • BigBoi
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 04-01-11
                                                                    • 1084

                                                                    #698
                                                                    The 6 pick teaser lives
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                                                                    • face
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-31-11
                                                                      • 14740

                                                                      #699
                                                                      good call on bengals
                                                                      you were right about lions tt. next time will just a post my lean in here before i bet it, see what you think
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                                                                      • 2daBank
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                                        • 88966

                                                                        #700
                                                                        well i suck at props but we busting this card up ..wasnt for stupid bears be perfect on the day (besides props, lo)... even had a 4 team round robin with colts ml.balty ml, cin ml, and fuk head bears ml.. what really sucked was that pick 6 by flucco,had a 4 team pleaser for 20 bucks to pay 900 with cincy-5, stl/jax ov 47, den/dal ov 62 but didnt make it to this dal total cause balty was -3.5,,fuk u flucco!
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