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  • ThaTopMoron
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 04-30-10
    • 27020

    #1
    Another Bob Belichick 4th and 2 Discussion
    its been over 3 years... should they have punted?
    they had 2 timeouts and 2 min warning to stop them and get it back with just under 2 min left!
    SF would have run 3 times conservatively prob

    what do you think?
  • Believeland
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-08-10
    • 923

    #2
    Correct play was to fukin punt... And now my 2nd half pats-6.5 dead
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    • KuLaPhU
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-21-10
      • 725

      #3
      4th and 2 own 12 yard line.. this play should be on Chris berman's "come on man" lol
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      • ThaTopMoron
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        • 04-30-10
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        #4
        he didn't trust his D again, just like in 2009 he went for it to try to seal the win vs Colts... was afraid of Manning who was on fire and they were only up 6 and had blown a 17 pt lead in the 4th quarter
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        • BigDofBA
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          • 09-30-09
          • 19313

          #5
          So you guys think the Patriots had a better chance of punting, getting a three and out, and then driving the length of the field in a minute for a TD?

          I think I'll give Brady a chance to pick up 2 yards.

          If they punt the ball back, the Niners wouldn't just run up the middle three times. I'm sure Kapernick would have been running around picking up a first down.

          Why aren't you questioning the Pats for going for it on 4th down in the third quarter at their own 40? That worked out for a TD.
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          • ThaTopMoron
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            • 04-30-10
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            #6
            Originally posted by Believeland
            Correct play was to fukin punt... And now my 2nd half pats-6.5 dead
            not so fast! you got it
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            • BigDofBA
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-30-09
              • 19313

              #7
              Just to make it more clear.

              Do you trust one of the best QB's of all time to pick up two yards or do you trust your defense that has given up 41 points to get a three and out?
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              • ThaTopMoron
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                • 04-30-10
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                #8
                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                So you guys think the Patriots had a better chance of punting, getting a three and out, and then driving the length of the field in a minute for a TD?

                I think I'll give Brady a chance to pick up 2 yards.

                If they punt the ball back, the Niners wouldn't just run up the middle three times. I'm sure Kapernick would have been running around picking up a first down.

                Why aren't you questioning the Pats for going for it on 4th down in the third quarter at their own 40? That worked out for a TD.
                Andrew Luck did that on the road 2 weeks ago

                3 and out Pats would have had almost 2 full minutes left, NOT ONE

                SF is conservative, would have run it... was just up to NE to stop them from getting 10 in 3
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                • RG3
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 11-02-12
                  • 63

                  #9
                  correct play is to go for it. u have a top 3 QB at ur disposal, use him in tough situations. i do disagree with the actual play itself though. would have liked to seen a slant pass, or even a playaction pass.
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                  • RG3
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 11-02-12
                    • 63

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BigDofBA
                    Just to make it more clear.

                    Do you trust one of the best QB's of all time to pick up two yards or do you trust your defense that has given up 41 points to get a three and out?
                    /thread
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                    • Believeland
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-08-10
                      • 923

                      #11
                      You guys saying it was right to go for it are wrong... Harbough proved all game he was going to run the football to milk it with the lead. He never lost faith in his defense.

                      And not all of those 41 points are on the defense
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                      • Speedy88
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                        • 03-19-11
                        • 11717

                        #12
                        Just comes down to whether you have more faith in the Pats getting a three and out, or Brady picking up 2 yards. I'd take Brady everytime.
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                        • RG3ING
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-14-12
                          • 1622

                          #13
                          I was pissed originally knowing it will lead to 49ers chip shot an kill my 2H play an would of lost 400 on the game but Brady hooks me an drives into fg range an they make it still lost 200 but still survived yesterday with profit
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                          • justwinthisone
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                            • 09-27-10
                            • 1604

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BigDofBA
                            So you guys think the Patriots had a better chance of punting, getting a three and out, and then driving the length of the field in a minute for a TD?

                            I think I'll give Brady a chance to pick up 2 yards.

                            If they punt the ball back, the Niners wouldn't just run up the middle three times. I'm sure Kapernick would have been running around picking up a first down.

                            Why aren't you questioning the Pats for going for it on 4th down in the third quarter at their own 40? That worked out for a TD.
                            Correct call.....didnt work out. I am big Pats fan and had no money involved in the call.....You go for it and you know if you dont get it the game is over. They put the ball in the best player on the fields hands and it didnt work this time. Brady did lead them to 3 TD drives in the 4th qtr so why think for a second that he cant get two small yards.
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                            • Eagles27
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                              • 10-19-12
                              • 800

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigDofBA
                              Just to make it more clear.

                              Do you trust one of the best QB's of all time to pick up two yards or do you trust your defense that has given up 41 points to get a three and out?
                              In my opinion, when down, you play to extend the game. Had they of been across the 50, go for it. Pinned in your own territory, you punt and hope your D can make a stop (which was likely as SF was just looking to play it safe at that point as their D had been playing stellar).
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                              • Tommy Blingshyne
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 12-11-12
                                • 821

                                #16
                                dude, its one of those plays where if they go for it and get the 1st youre a genius and if you dont get it youre a shmohawk...the sheer fact they were able to actually make it a game was the most impressive feet of the night IMO...are you really not gonna let Brady of all QBs to not go for it after making one of the sickest comebacks ever?
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                                • PaperTrail07
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                                  • 08-29-08
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                                  #17
                                  you punt...and give the TEAM a chance rather than 1 player...even tho he is the man
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                                  • Eagles27
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                                    • 10-19-12
                                    • 800

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Tommy Blingshyne
                                    dude, its one of those plays where if they go for it and get the 1st youre a genius and if you dont get it youre a shmohawk...the sheer fact they were able to actually make it a game was the most impressive feet of the night IMO...are you really not gonna let Brady of all QBs to not go for it after making one of the sickest comebacks ever?
                                    Considering the offense was starting to sputter a bit, yes. Punt and hope you get the ball back with slightly better field position, maybe even force a fumble deep in niner territory? It was just unnecessary going for it at that stage of the game. But I guess you can argue both points.
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                                    • ThaTopMoron
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                                      • 04-30-10
                                      • 27020

                                      #19
                                      fact is in 09 and yesterday, both times... they FAILED

                                      don't care its Brady at QB... both times they FAILD once again

                                      you force Peyton to drive 70+ yards instead of 28 yards for the a potential game winning TD in 2009

                                      you punt and give yourself the chance to get a stop and get the ball back one more time, its the NFL.... teams can drive down field in a matter of seconds

                                      you fail and you are guaranteed to be down 10...you PUNT, if your D doesn't get a stop then so be it. he dissed his D yet again... last time he did that they ended up getting blown away in the playoffs by the Ravens

                                      but then again, I'm glad in 2009 that they went for it... if they didn't and punted, maybe the Colts would have lost instead of won the game (i was at that game)
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