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  • cocknocker
    Restricted User
    • 11-06-08
    • 8001

    #1
    Turkey Day NFL Shocker
    PC Plays are off the Charts, going 5-2 on the season, both losses being in basketball.

    While Donovan McNabb's performance was horrible against the Ravens, the defense wasn't all that bad considering the bad position the offense kept putting them in following the turnovers, The benching was a mere afterthought, and should not be used as a tool to define the Eagles the following week when they play the Cardinals.

    The Cardinals backed into the playoffs due wholly to their weak division. Even though they lost to the Giants, they got into the post season party with losses by the 49ers and the Seahawks.

    The Cardinals don't travel so well when they go tot the east coast, and this Turkey Day will be no different when they go to visit the Eagles in Philly. I look for McNabb to have a bounce back performance and cash the ticket while the odds are stacked up against him. The Cardinals showed last week that they are an inferior team with the weak link being their offensive line play, which was exposed by the Giants blitz package. If they though the Giants bought the heat, you can only imagine what the embarrased Eagles are going to do at home. The line for this game is Philly-3. Take it.

    It is always a good idea to take a team when their stock is low, and the Eagles definitely fit that description with 3 straight losses, questions about McNabb's leadership quality and Andy Reid's job performance.

    This is a bonafide PC Play. Don't you miss it.
  • NashvilleGambler
    SBR High Roller
    • 10-17-08
    • 190

    #2
    Originally posted by cocknocker
    PC Plays are off the Charts, going 5-2 on the season, both losses being in basketball.

    While Donovan McNabb's performance was horrible against the Ravens, the defense wasn't all that bad considering the bad position the offense kept putting them in following the turnovers, The benching was a mere afterthought, and should not be used as a tool to define the Eagles the following week when they play the Cardinals.

    The Cardinals backed into the playoffs due wholly to their weak division. Even though they lost to the Giants, they got into the post season party with losses by the 49ers and the Seahawks.

    The Cardinals don't travel so well when they go tot the east coast, and this Turkey Day will be no different when they go to visit the Eagles in Philly. I look for McNabb to have a bounce back performance and cash the ticket while the odds are stacked up against him. The Cardinals showed last week that they are an inferior team with the weak link being their offensive line play, which was exposed by the Giants blitz package. If they though the Giants bought the heat, you can only imagine what the embarrased Eagles are going to do at home. The line for this game is Philly-3. Take it.

    It is always a good idea to take a team when their stock is low, and the Eagles definitely fit that description with 3 straight losses, questions about McNabb's leadership quality and Andy Reid's job performance.

    This is a bonafide PC Play. Don't you miss it.
    Im with ya Cock!!!!!!
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    • NashvilleGambler
      SBR High Roller
      • 10-17-08
      • 190

      #3
      Nice looking Lady Cock!!!
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      • JWpickem
        SBR Hustler
        • 10-27-08
        • 66

        #4
        nice capping gobble it up GL
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        • JWpickem
          SBR Hustler
          • 10-27-08
          • 66

          #5
          P.S. i have cousin in Nashville who are in the so call gamming industry
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          • NashvilleGambler
            SBR High Roller
            • 10-17-08
            • 190

            #6
            Originally posted by JWpickem
            P.S. i have cousin in Nashville who are in the so call gamming industry
            The Hell You Say!!
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            • ryanXL977
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-24-08
              • 20615

              #7
              i say eagles are done
              i say az beats em and beats em good
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              • bostonbasher
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-25-08
                • 688

                #8
                Im all over the eagles as well,zonas Def is soft and the Eagles will bring it w/ that secondary and the blitz packages
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                • nick2060
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-28-08
                  • 1051

                  #9
                  i can dig it, both teams are on/off so the homefield definitely gives philly an edge
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                  • vassman86
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-11-08
                    • 1042

                    #10
                    i know nothing about football. what is a down?? j/k about the down part...but i'm tailin you on this one CK
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                    • cocknocker
                      Restricted User
                      • 11-06-08
                      • 8001

                      #11
                      vassman, what I mean by down is that their stock is down with media types. When the media says a team is toast, that's when you take them. Plus I have a theory about bet with a team that has lsot 3 straight, and bet against a team that has won 3 straight. And that goes for any sport with the exception of baseball. For some reason in baseball when a team gets hot, they stay hot for a week or more. Baseball has a different synergy about it. But after a team does three of anything, the linemaker will make a correction to either stop bettors from fading or taking a certain team. According to my rescoring model, Philly should be a 4.5 favorite in this game, so the spread is actually lower than it should be. At any rate, good luck all.

                      And BTW, Nashville Gambler, the "Lady" Cock is my Missus, Stylistic! Have a good one gentlemen
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                      • BrandonLaz
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-18-08
                        • 855

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cocknocker
                        vassman, what I mean by down is that their stock is down with media types. When the media says a team is toast, that's when you take them. Plus I have a theory about bet with a team that has lsot 3 straight, and bet against a team that has won 3 straight. And that goes for any sport with the exception of baseball. For some reason in baseball when a team gets hot, they stay hot for a week or more. Baseball has a different synergy about it. But after a team does three of anything, the linemaker will make a correction to either stop bettors from fading or taking a certain team. According to my rescoring model, Philly should be a 4.5 favorite in this game, so the spread is actually lower than it should be. At any rate, good luck all.

                        And BTW, Nashville Gambler, the "Lady" Cock is my Missus, Stylistic! Have a good one gentlemen
                        Now you know I agree with a lot of your plays in basketball as I have been on your post a lot discussing them with you the past couple of weeks. I just have to ask though how did that strategy work with you against NE last year and with the Lions this year haha. Anyway I do agree with you on this play CK especially with the defense of the Cardinals being so soft. When the Eagles are bringing pressure they are tough to beat and I expect them to blitz Warner a lot on Thursday.
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                        • jalein
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-19-08
                          • 1005

                          #13
                          I am gonna ride and read while tailing the CK and Styles train. Its a smoothe ride. I am speaking from expeirience. The Force is with us on this one.
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                          • BamaBill67
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-12-08
                            • 682

                            #14
                            Does this look ok?

                            Titans -1
                            Cowboys -3
                            Cardinals +13
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                            • Dark Horse
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-14-05
                              • 13764

                              #15
                              In your write-up you're underestimating the Cards. They beat Dallas (before the collapse) and unbeaten Buffalo. They lost to the best team in football Sunday. And mainly because of special teams.

                              The travel angle to the East Coast, setting off the body clock, should have far less of an influence for an evening kickoff.

                              I agree that this is not a good spot to bet against McNabb. For obvious reasons. And the weather could factor in. If it's freezing that favors Philly.

                              I want to take a look at the teams first. If it's close at the half, I might take Philly for the 2H.
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                              • yisman
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 09-01-08
                                • 75682

                                #16
                                how is this a shocker?
                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                [/quote]

                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                • ryanXL977
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-24-08
                                  • 20615

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                  In your write-up you're underestimating the Cards. They beat Dallas (before the collapse) and unbeaten Buffalo. They lost to the best team in football Sunday. And mainly because of special teams.

                                  The travel angle to the East Coast, setting off the body clock, should have far less of an influence for an evening kickoff.

                                  I agree that this is not a good spot to bet against McNabb. For obvious reasons. And the weather could factor in. If it's freezing that favors Philly.

                                  I want to take a look at the teams first. If it's close at the half, I might take Philly for the 2H.

                                  bingo
                                  they lost to nyg bc of kickoff and punt returns. az aint bad
                                  though i am glad bc i bet nyg


                                  cards are better than eagles
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                                  • w9ii9
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-25-08
                                    • 96

                                    #18
                                    I don't think it would that much of a shocker. The Eagles are -3.
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                                    • Doc JS
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-15-06
                                      • 6885

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by cocknocker
                                      The Cardinals showed last week that they are an inferior team
                                      Because they lost to the best team in football???

                                      Look, the Eagles may cash or the Eagles may crash. I get the "Eagles backs are against the wall and they need the game more" angle. I just don't think there is any way to know which Eagles team is going to show up and play...

                                      I'm staying away but BOL on your play!

                                      Doc
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                                      • Devon
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 11-25-08
                                        • 371

                                        #20
                                        The Eagles are a farking mess at the moment. I really would not be putting money on them at all. Teams know that all they have a is a passing game which makes them easy to defend. The Eagles were thumped by the Ravens the other day and Donovan McNabb was benched, for the first time in his career. The team is a shambles and I wouldn't be surprised if the head coach, Andy Reid, is shown the door before the end of the season.
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                                        • ohdear
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 09-01-08
                                          • 138

                                          #21
                                          i guess it's considered a shocker when a three point favorite covers at home?
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                                          • Poker_Beast
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-14-06
                                            • 6545

                                            #22
                                            On the Arizona ML myself, Philly is done!
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                                            • Devon
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 11-25-08
                                              • 371

                                              #23
                                              yeah should be good
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                                              • Dana4U
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 10-28-08
                                                • 375

                                                #24
                                                I agree with the Arizona pick here.
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                                                • laxdjock
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-15-07
                                                  • 4074

                                                  #25
                                                  If AZ recovered that on-side kick, they may have caused some real problems for the NYG. AZ is my lean. Det +12 is another lean. Not sure about the 3rd game.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Guys Zona played a great Giant team very tough so I would be careful here, they could of scored a lot more. This team is very good.
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                                                    • Beat up the book
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 08-21-08
                                                      • 380

                                                      #27
                                                      The birds are cooked on thanksgiv'en day.You guys are on crack,
                                                      AZ is way better right now then the Eagles are.And all Andy will be thinking about
                                                      is McNabb's mom's yams.
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                                                      • ryanXL977
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-24-08
                                                        • 20615

                                                        #28
                                                        eagles are garbage
                                                        there is a reason they are where they are
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                                                        • cocknocker
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 11-06-08
                                                          • 8001

                                                          #29
                                                          I never expected to be with the majority on this pick. Matter of fact, based upon the response of this thread, and the 78% of bettors with like kind thinking, I plan on putting even more money on the Eagles than originally I thought I would. man this is going to be so sweet. Thanksgiving cashola! The PC's are rarely off when they make the call. Trust that!
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                                                          • GatorFan
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-19-07
                                                            • 2969

                                                            #30
                                                            The more I look into the birds match the more I see OVER. I got to do more homework on this for my Thanksgiving play.
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                                                            • MikeZaW
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 11-12-08
                                                              • 472

                                                              #31
                                                              I may sound like a homer but if there is a game where the Eagles match-up ok in this one .... Examples .....
                                                              - Eagles pass rush vs. Cards O-Line & Kurt Warner's Cement Block Legs. If Jim Johnson brings the blitz which he will and gets pressure Warner will take sacks or simply throw it up.

                                                              - Cardinals WR's vs Eagles Secondary. I'm not sure who is going to be on who but @ times you could see Lito playing on Boldin with Sheldon Brown bringing the corner blitz. or doubling over the top on Boldin or Fitz and Joselio Hanson covering the slot or 3rd receiver. I expect to see man coverage becuase of the speed of the corners and the WR's will eat up a zone. I would expect this to be one of the harder matchups that Cards WR's have seen so far.

                                                              - Cards Rushing Attack vs. Eagles Run Stoppers. Tim Hightower is a pretty good back in my opinion. And I think that he should have a decent game and will be the KEY to the Cards offense. If he gets the ball 25 + times on the ground and is effective enough to have 4 Yards per carry, the Eagles will be in trouble.

                                                              - Cards Pass Rush vs Eagles O-line & Donovan McNabb. I feel that this matchup favors the Eagles slightly. Only because McNabb as far as we know is healthy and will not take many sacks this game. Watch for the Eagles to use more of a zone blocking scheme this week which should fit Right Guard Max Jean-Gilles a little better since he doesn't understand what to do when the player he is supposed to block goes outside.

                                                              - Eagles WR's vs Cards DB's. The Speed of the Eagles WR's Kevin Curtis, Desean Jackson and Reggie Brown will have a slight edge over Corners Eric Green and Rod Hood. Arizona will need some help from the safety's. If the Eagles had a ligitimate tight end I would say that ____ TE would be a huge factor but I doubt L.J. Smith or Brent Celek will provide that threat for the Eagles offense this week.

                                                              - Ealges Rushing Attack vs. Cards Run Stoppers. The Cards have a moderate edge here. Westbrook is playing hurt. Buckhalter is hurt. Lorenzo Booker and Tony Hunt are worthless. The Cards should be able to stop the run all night. Considering the Eagles never run on 3 and short and due to the fact that they were a combined 6 for 31 on 3rd down conversions the past 2 weeks I doubt that they are going to hand it off on 3rd down now......... one more thing to note .... Kyle Eckel will be getting his first start @ fullback this game not sure but I think he might have trouble picking up blocks and especially on 3rd downs.


                                                              I am not going to make a prediction on this game. I am an Eagles fan. But just wanted to see if I could help out a little by adding my input. As for Edges go I'll put them at the bottom of this post.

                                                              Cards O-Line & QB vs. Eagles Pass Rush --------- Edge to Eagles
                                                              Cards WR's vs. Eagles DB's --------------------- Neutral
                                                              Cards Rushing Attack vs Eagles Rush D ---------- Slight Edge to Cards'

                                                              Eagles O-Line & QB vs. Cards Pass Rush ---------- Edge to Eagles
                                                              Eagles WR's vs. Cards DB's ----------------------- Slight Edge to Eagles
                                                              Eagles Rushing vs. Cards Rush D ------------------- Edge to Cards'


                                                              I hope this helps ..... let me know if it helps or if I'm a complete moron. LOL GL
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                                                              • zackattack
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 11-06-08
                                                                • 218

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by cocknocker
                                                                I never expected to be with the majority on this pick. Matter of fact, based upon the response of this thread, and the 78% of bettors with like kind thinking, I plan on putting even more money on the Eagles than originally I thought I would. man this is going to be so sweet. Thanksgiving cashola! The PC's are rarely off when they make the call. Trust that!
                                                                clearly the eagles were putrid last week and arizona played the giants pretty tough, but a few things make me love philly in this game. first the oddsmakers make eagles a fav here after last week? 2nd, the giants pass rush has been off lately and philly can absolutely rush the qb, warner will get pressured and sacked a lot thursday. and then of course you have the west teams fliing in to play the east which is something like 15-0 straight up this year. philly is the play!!

                                                                thanks to cocknocker for his plays and insight!
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                                                                • $greenbucks$
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 11-10-08
                                                                  • 122

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I don't think AZ is all that of the team when they were struggling with the 49ers. I think the Eagles will take this game by at least 1 touch down
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                                                                  • stevebreaston
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-13-08
                                                                    • 83

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i'll copy my post to this thread too...

                                                                    this game is a perfect opportunity for eagles fans to boo more than cheer, mcnabb
                                                                    couldn't hit a wide open reciever if you paid him even more, westbrook is obviously playing hurt, and philly wants reid out...their playoff hopes are pretty shot it's moreso a bigger game for the cards going after that #2 seed in the NFC...if you can get an adjusted line on this game hammer it for the insane value, cards -3....they'll win by at least 6 in my opinion. BEST offense in football vs. a team who didn't have one offensive touchdown last week.
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                                                                    • konck
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-17-06
                                                                      • 12554

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The shorker will be the Titans losing 2 in a row ....3 pt dog isnt a shocker
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