Does anyone agree that the 49ers offense will be just as good with Kapernick?

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  • $Robert Dinero$
    SBR Rookie
    • 11-16-12
    • 31

    #1
    Does anyone agree that the 49ers offense will be just as good with Kapernick?
    It'll be a heavy dose of Gore/Hunter, Kapernick's a good maybe better scrambler than Alex, A reliable TE, & play-action pass game. In my opinion this offense is taylor made for a QB with some gameplan & preparation. I know its the bears but I like the 49ers and the TT Over tonight.
  • Big Bear
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-01-11
    • 43253

    #2
    yeah for sure. i bet on 49ers -7 at +105 and that was before i knew Alex Smith was out. But i didn't bet on the 49ers thinking Alex Smith is going to win me some money. I figured if Alex Smith played he might last a quarter before the Bears hurt him some more and he's done for the game.

    I've always thought the QB position was the only weak link on the 49ers. Now i know Alex Smith has improved a lot!!! which is why the 49ers are super bowl contenders.

    But i'm sure a healthy Kaepernick is better than a hurt Alex Smith. The 49ers will give the Bears a heavy does of Frank Gore who has had great success against the Bears in his career.

    Mix in a little play action to Vernon Davis . A deep ball to Randy Moss. Maybe throw the rock to Crabtree a few times.

    And when the Bears have the ball double team the fukk out of Brandon Marshall and stack 8 in the box so Forte can't beat ya.

    Jason Cambell just likes to check down. He is not a good deep ball thrower.

    Harbaugh will has boys ready tonight. Go 49ers
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    • dredmahawkus
      SBR MVP
      • 12-26-09
      • 1803

      #3
      good post BB....I was looking for someone to help me get over taking the niners at 6.5!
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      • suicidekings
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 03-23-09
        • 9962

        #4
        The line only moving 1.5 points from the news should make that clear. But people always overvalue the QB position, which is funny because Alex Smith isn't exactly elite, and Kaepernick is a pretty solid #2 option. The differential isn't huge between the two.
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        • 4TH AND STUPID
          SBR MVP
          • 08-08-09
          • 2349

          #5
          i agree with the OP, suicide, and i love the post by big bear. a lot of spot on comments.
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          • naslax13
            SBR MVP
            • 01-03-11
            • 1220

            #6
            No. bears cover and win straight up
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            • meader99
              SBR MVP
              • 10-30-10
              • 4223

              #7
              No. Alex Smith is light years ahead of CK. CK has never seen a defense he is about to see. I could count on Smith to take care of the ball. I don't think I can count on CK and that's how you beat the Bears, by not turning it over.
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              • jimminn
                SBR MVP
                • 04-23-11
                • 1176

                #8
                This game is so simple to pick Packers lost to 49'rs 30-20 Packers beat Da bears 23-10
                DUH 49r's win by at least 10
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                • suicidekings
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-23-09
                  • 9962

                  #9
                  Originally posted by meader99
                  No. Alex Smith is light years ahead of CK. CK has never seen a defense he is about to see. I could count on Smith to take care of the ball. I don't think I can count on CK and that's how you beat the Bears, by not turning it over.
                  This is one of the most overused justifications in sports betting... Not a valid qualifier for a play.
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                  • detroitlionsfan
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-30-12
                    • 1895

                    #10
                    i think heill suprise
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                    • meader99
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-30-10
                      • 4223

                      #11
                      Originally posted by suicidekings
                      This is one of the most overused justifications in sports betting... Not a valid qualifier for a play.
                      Bears defense LIVES off turnovers.There is nothing to suggest CK will play a turnover free game in his first start.
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                      • suicidekings
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 03-23-09
                        • 9962

                        #12
                        Originally posted by meader99
                        Bears defense LIVES off turnovers.There is nothing to suggest CK will play a turnover free game in his first start.
                        An 82-24 TD-INT ratio in 4 years at Nevada, en route to over 10,000 passing yards. A team that's not pass-heavy even with their #1 QB on the field. Kaepernick has a strong arm and a fairly quick release. You're just assuming he won't be able to complete passes with nothing definitive showing us that he's turnover prone.

                        But speaking of turnover prone, enter Jason Campbell... A 74-50 TD-INT ratio in the NFL (plus 14 fumbles lost) demonstrates a solid history of turnovers... The Niners were living off turnovers last year, so I think it's fair to say they have the defensive talent to take advantage of Campbell, who will be throwing to a weaker set of receivers than CK.

                        How do you demonize CK for the turnovers he hasn't commited yet and just ignore JC's turnover track record?
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                        • suicidekings
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 03-23-09
                          • 9962

                          #13
                          Also, as a team, the Bears rely on passing for 67% of their 1st downs, whereas the Niners only get 54% of their 1st downs by passing. Big difference.
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                          • $Robert Dinero$
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 11-16-12
                            • 31

                            #14
                            I think that about sums it up
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                            • Pivotpoint
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-02-06
                              • 1762

                              #15
                              I don't. Could you imagine how nervous Kaepernick is right now? First start in NFL would be rough, add under the lights with the nation watching for MNF? Then add against Bears defense. Wow, talk about pressure.

                              I was always impressed with the Pistol offense that Chris Ault runs up in Nevada. Studied a lot of tape of Nevada when I though of introducing that offense when I coached. Kaepernick had a great career in Nevada and is more known for his big games against fresno and that shoot-out with Boise. He was actually a late round draft by the Cubs in baseball. I always thought he threw more line drive throws and struggled to get a little air under the ball. Could spell trouble for ball hawking Bears secondary.

                              Lots of guys from college struggle with the pro offense and reads. Bears defense makes the Mountain West look like pop warner. Kap might have looked fast against them, will see if he can turn the corner against that Bears.

                              If Gore can take pressure off him he has a chance. Bears will stack the box and force Kap to beat them. Jennings and Tillman must be drooling.

                              Anything can happen and luck is part of the game, BUT, There is no subsitute for experience.

                              Bears win straight up.
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                              • suicidekings
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-23-09
                                • 9962

                                #16
                                Originally posted by suicidekings
                                An 82-24 TD-INT ratio in 4 years at Nevada, en route to over 10,000 passing yards. A team that's not pass-heavy even with their #1 QB on the field. Kaepernick has a strong arm and a fairly quick release. You're just assuming he won't be able to complete passes with nothing definitive showing us that he's turnover prone.

                                But speaking of turnover prone, enter Jason Campbell... A 74-50 TD-INT ratio in the NFL (plus 14 fumbles lost) demonstrates a solid history of turnovers... The Niners were living off turnovers last year, so I think it's fair to say they have the defensive talent to take advantage of Campbell, who will be throwing to a weaker set of receivers than CK.

                                How do you demonize CK for the turnovers he hasn't commited yet and just ignore JC's turnover track record?
                                And then I took the Bears.
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                                • $Robert Dinero$
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 11-16-12
                                  • 31

                                  #17
                                  49ers and 49ers team OVER. boom.
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                                  • Pivotpoint
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-02-06
                                    • 1762

                                    #18
                                    Hats off to Kaepernick. Kid is playing lights out. Everything is going right, but you have to capitalize on opps and he's doing it. Never seen the Bears play this bad. O line looks like a bunch of penetrating manginas
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                                    • $Robert Dinero$
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 11-16-12
                                      • 31

                                      #19
                                      Agreed Pivot. Strong game for Kaepernick. Definitely not indicative of who the Bears are though just a tough night. Would really enjoy a January Bears-Niners playoff game with everyone available to both teams.
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                                      • meader99
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-30-10
                                        • 4223

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by suicidekings
                                        And then I took the Bears.
                                        LOL, oops, me too....Ah well, at least that puts the Pack back in first.
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                                        • Big Bear
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 11-01-11
                                          • 43253

                                          #21
                                          Whats up SBR !!??? Cheers baby
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