Almost every square play won this week.
So were those plays square?
So were those plays square?
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That's the billion dollar question. Everyone has started assuming that these crappy dog teams are "sharp" just cause the public loves the other side.Originally posted by k13Comment -
All about value, nothing else. Squares know nothing about value, but will occasionally get some accidentally.Comment -
This is the funniest thing about most of this forum. There's this glory-hunting attitude to take dogs so they come across as sharp and every time the favorites win it's a "square day".Originally posted by tto827
It's like they can't comprehend sharps and squares can be on the same side, or that a popular favorite can't possibly be "sharp".
Today was a perfect example. Sharps took a lot of favorites at key numbers early in the week, while the squares waited till the weekend and took the worst numbers on the same side. Yet somehow it's only the public that won?
Amateur hour around here.
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k13, just my opinion-not saying it's right but laying points to Tennessee and Cincinnati, square or not, was the right play. Chicago-4.5 and Denver-3 were the good bets.Originally posted by k13
If thinking too much about square/sharp leads you to making a play on Tenn+4.5 or Cin+3 in the hopes of some exciting upset, youre doing something wrong.
Laying double digits, thats different.Comment -
One angle that makes one sharp is good timing....Comment -
There are no square teams...just bets on bad odds and numbers. If you see somebody saying "team x is a square play" you know he isn't too sharp either, unless he is just joking. Squares don't pay attention to the odds they get, never get the best line etc...hell there is no need to ask us, if you want to read about that go to pinnacle etc and read their articles.Comment -
Lot of good posts here.
I think the terms square and sharp should be applied more to a state of being.
To be sharp means to find that edge. It comes in many forms as already listed in this thread previously. Whether it be getting the right number/odds all the way to knowing of a particular city's weather situation. Being sharp means to analyze every angle carefully. That at the end of the day you did enough to rationalize your choice and pick winners where the majority just bury themselves.
Being square is the exact opposite. No research or knowledge. Stupid and unnecessary mistakes.Comment -
Sharps vs Square....Some of you are looking at this the wrong way. It has very little to do with the team being bet and everything to do with the price of that line or spread. It is possible to be on the square end, or the sharp end of the same game.
For example, Last week the Chiefs came out at +9.5. The sharps that liked KC would have grabbed that line right away. Other sharps may have liked SD but realized that the line would be bet down. They then waited till the spread came down to 7.5 and then fired away. Both of these bets could be said to be on the sharp side of the line.
Basically, Sharp means that you don't cut corners. You understand everything from line movement, injuries, weather etc. You could really like a game but at the last minute the line moves 5 cents and it is no longer worth playing. A square on the other hand has very little understanding of the line. They may have seen that line at 7.5 on Thursday and had no idea that it was once +9.5.
It just so happens that the majority of the time those that are considered squares are easily influenced by the media and often over/under react to certain information. A square has a better idea of how this information will change the line and they use that to maximize their ROI while a square often aims to maximize their convenience or entertainment.
At the end of the day if you want to consider your self a sharp, focus on beating the closing line.
Be the guy with KC+9.5 or SD -7.5 not the square with SD -9.5 or KC+7.5Comment -
There really is no fukkin difference no matter what people say
A guy who doesn't like a pick will claim it is square
the pick they like is sharp
If they lose they were on the right side anyway, even though they lost
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most people know when vegas puts out their lines the idea is to get equal amount of money bet on both sides and they make their money on the vig. sharps know what the line should be then look for value wheather its in the opening, closing or somewhere inbetween lines. like daytrading the stock market, timing is everything.
how many games are decided by .5 or 1 pt? ...lots. a couple here and there can be huge. thats just 1 part of what they do to give themself the best opportunity to make $$$. and thats the bottom line making $$$Comment -
I agree. Sharps and Squares were on the same games.Originally posted by bobbyk1133This is the funniest thing about most of this forum. There's this glory-hunting attitude to take dogs so they come across as sharp and every time the favorites win it's a "square day".
It's like they can't comprehend sharps and squares can be on the same side, or that a popular favorite can't possibly be "sharp".
Today was a perfect example. Sharps took a lot of favorites at key numbers early in the week, while the squares waited till the weekend and took the worst numbers on the same side. Yet somehow it's only the public that won?
Amateur hour around here.
Most games that Squares win is when Sharps are on the same side and the line goes with them.
They just never realize that they are on the same side.Comment -
DING DING DING, we have a winner, only took 47 posts.Originally posted by k13Comment -
LOL Dallas was the 'sharp' side last night how did that turn out? I loved it, 99% of the time a team takes a knee and runs out the clock, they kick a FG to cover the spread. One of many 'questionable' late games scores this year in the NFL that effected the spread.Comment -
Sharps were playing off house money
Squares will give it all back next week and then someComment -
there is no "square" or "sharp" unless the NFL is fixed.
if the nfl is fixed then there is "sharp" money or people who are "close to the money" that will know which side the refs will favor and thus drop a lot of money (ie 200k plus) on a game.
if the nfl is NOT fixed then ``sharp`` is just guys with a lot of money that are moving a line. that doesnt mean they know the likely outcome, it just means they have a lot of money
so the question becomes is the nfl fixed. that is the real question that is being asked in this thread without the opening post even realising it.
IF the NFL IS FIXED..... then there are SHARPS
if the NFL is NOT FIXED.... then there are just rich people that movel lines and paying attention to them is idiotic.
so that is the real question. fixed or no fix
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Easy sharps have a big bankroll and stay even meanwhile cashing in their sbr points for wal mart gift cards to buy rotisserie chickens and fresh doughnuts at 1 am throughout the yearComment -
Stupid post...nfl is not fixed hahaOriginally posted by 4TH AND STUPIDthere is no "square" or "sharp" unless the NFL is fixed.
if the nfl is fixed then there is "sharp" money or people who are "close to the money" that will know which side the refs will favor and thus drop a lot of money (ie 200k plus) on a game.
if the nfl is NOT fixed then ``sharp`` is just guys with a lot of money that are moving a line. that doesnt mean they know the likely outcome, it just means they have a lot of money
so the question becomes is the nfl fixed. that is the real question that is being asked in this thread without the opening post even realising it.
IF the NFL IS FIXED..... then there are SHARPS
if the NFL is NOT FIXED.... then there are just rich people that movel lines and paying attention to them is idiotic.
so that is the real question. fixed or no fixComment -
Sharps bet Obama at -130, Squares bet Obama at -350, pseudo-sharps bet Romney....
No Value in losers.
How did books do in this election?Comment -
I don't waste time worrying about what supposed sharps or squares are doing. I am sharper than a Mexican switch blade at assessing value in almost every bettable sport, whoever I bet is inherently a sharp side. Confidence from 20+ years of rolling, not working.Comment -
Point spreads
time bgren ohio 11/07 11:23 am +2 -110 -2 -110 11/07 10:12 am +2½ -115 -2½ -105 11/06 08:45 pm +3 -120 -3 +100 11/06 07:28 am +3 -110 -3 -110 11/05 10:31 pm +3 -115 -3 -105 11/05 04:55 pm +3 -110 -3 -110 11/04 07:11 pm +3½ -115 -3½ -105 11/04 07:11 pm +3½ -120 -3½ +100 11/04 06:37 pm +3½ -110 -3½ -110 Comment -
Using tonights NCAAF game its easy to dissect "who" is the sharp side and "why"Comment -
I would rather spend my time and energy in becoming sharp, instead of trying to figure out what "sharps" and "squares" are doing based on line movements and bet volume etc.Comment -
Lmao this thread is a fukkin joke, and your a fukkin joke if you consider yourself a sharp.Comment -
A joke who has never called another man boss and lives where he wants and how he wants all from gambling legally. You are a joke to me because you gamble and you are not a sharp, like almost everyone else.Originally posted by Finch DineroComment
