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  • JUSTWINBABY
    SBR High Roller
    • 01-02-09
    • 194

    #1
    Seattle/San Fran
    YTD 34-15(69%)+39.3 Units

    Seahawks Defensive Coordinator is Gus
    Bradley...Gus who? How did this guy come along and have the 2nd best
    Defense(statistically) in the League(Probably the best)
    Gus is a hold
    over for Seattle from the Disastrous Jim Mora's season there...How did
    this no name guy produce such a good defense? Welp He is connected with
    Monte Kiffin for three years in Tampa, Don't confuse Monte Kiffin for
    Goofy son Lane..Monte Kiffin has built some Great Defenses...Before the
    Tampa Years he was DC for The North Dakota State Bison's ahh the
    Bison's!!! As DC there he ran their defense—1997-2002 and 2005—the
    Bison went 53-26....Bradley's unit led the Great West conference in
    scoring defense and total defense....This guy has no name recognition from the Media (YET)and is quietly getting this defense better..

    Seahawks Offensive Coordinator is
    Darrell Bevell...Not another famously familiar name...He has some good
    history of offensive teams he has been associated with, He has been here
    last year and this season, He was a QB at Wisconsin and in '93 went
    10-1-1 and won the Rose Bowl over UCLA..
    In 2000, Bevell was
    hired by the Packers as a offensive assistant working with Brett Farve
    and the offense..In 2006, Childress was hired as the head coach of the
    Minnesota Vikings,
    and he brought Bevell to his team as offensive coordinator...There is
    certainly not alot of offense this year going on as the Seahawks are
    ranked 31st out of 32 teams..BUT they are 7th in the league running the
    ball..

    SF Defensive coordinator is Vic Fangio...he was brought from Stanford by Harbaugh And this guy is Solid, last year he turned the 49ers defense around producing a league-high 35 turnovers...
    This
    year he has the 9th in total defense..(9th run,2nd passing)In 2011,
    Fangio led a 49ers defensive unit that ranked first in the NFL
    against the run (77.3 yards per game), tied for first with 38 takeaways
    and second in points allowed (14.3 points per game). The defense did not
    allow a rushing touchdown through the first 14 games of the season,
    setting a new NFL record. The unit allowed just three rushing touchdowns
    all season, which is the lowest total allowed since the NFL went to a
    16-game schedule in 1978. The 49ers defense also led the NFC in points
    allowed (14.3), yards allowed per game (325.9), opposing quarterback
    rating (73.6), first downs allowed (267) and ranked second in red zone
    defense (41.2 pct.).
    Prior to joining Stanford, Fangio served on the Baltimore Ravens
    coaching staff from 2006-09 as a special assistant to the head coach
    and linebackers coach. In his four seasons with Baltimore, the Ravens
    led the NFL in total defense in 2006, ranked second in 2008 and third in
    2009.

    Fangio spent the previous four seasons as the defensive
    coordinator of the Houston Texans (2002-05). His 2002 defense ranked
    eighth in the AFC overall and fourth in the conference in pass defense.
    The Texans scored three defensive touchdowns against the Pittsburgh
    Steelers at Heinz Field in Week 14 en route to a 24-6 victory.

    In
    2004, the Texans set a team record and ranked fifth in the NFL with 22
    interceptions, five of which were returned for touchdowns. Houston did
    not allow a touchdown for 13 straight quarters from Week 13 to 16,
    posting the longest stretch by any team in the league that season.

    Fangio
    served as the defensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts from
    1999-2001. The Colts posted a 13-3 record in Fangio’s first season after
    going just 6-26 the previous two years. Indianapolis won its first
    division title in 15 years, while the Colts defense improved from last
    to 15th under his guidance. The 2000 Colt defense tallied 42 sacks and
    made strides in all other statistical categories....Like I said, This guy is SOLID.

    SF Offensive Coordinator is Greg Roman...Under Roman’s direction in 2011, the 49ers notched a 13-3 record as the
    offense ranked in the NFL’s top 10 in points per game (23.8 - tied for
    10th), rushing yards per game (127.8 - 8th) and time of possession
    (32:04 - 4th). Additionally, the offense committed just 10 turnovers (5
    fumbles, 5 interceptions), which ranks tied for first in NFL history for
    the fewest turnovers in a season, also setting a franchise record.
    Roman has been a member of the coaching staffs of the Carolina Panthers
    (1995-2001), Houston Texans (2002-03) and Baltimore Ravens (2006-07). He
    also spent two seasons (2009-10) on Jim Harbaugh’s coaching staff at
    Stanford....

    Roman joined the Cardinal in 2009 as the running game
    coordinator, with position responsibilities of tight ends and offensive
    tackles. In 2010, he kept those responsibilities, but also added the
    duties of associate coach and assistant head coach of the offense.
    Roman
    has been called the Mad Scientist of Coordinators,For Example,during
    the 49ers' 27--19 Week 2 win over the Lions, as Roman used 10
    different personnel groups in San Francisco's first 15 plays. On
    consecutive snaps to open the game Roman went with one back, one tight
    end and three wide receivers; two backs, one tight end and two
    receivers; and one back, two tight ends and two receivers. On the fourth
    play he used two backs and tight end Vernon Davis, who beat the safety
    to the left corner of the end zone for a touchdown.
    Against Green Bay a week earlier, Roman had guard Leonard Davis, a 6'6",
    350-pound line up at tight end for the
    first time in his career. On other occasions against the Packers and the
    Lions he had 6'3", 308-pound guard Daniel Kilgore join Leonard Davis at
    tight end. And when he really wanted to go big, Roman had 6'4",
    293-pound defensive tackle Will Tukuafu at fullback.
    Welp, The Mad
    Scientist got alittle too cocky last week against the Giants,In last
    year’s regular-season win over the Giants, the 49ers fooled their
    opponent with a pass-first game plan..11 months after that win, the
    49ers tried a similar plan against the
    Giants on Sunday. This time, they exited with 3 interceptions, a
    26-3 loss and the coach who panned the plan didn’t meet the media
    after this one....Bad Plan against a Great Defensive Coordinator.


    all in all the Coordinators are Rock solid for both Defenses,The Offensive Coordinator's....Bevell and Roman ...What
    and how are they game planning this one? If Roman get's cute again this
    week Gus Bradley and his Big Secondary will make him pay again...I
    think he will game plan conservative.


    I do LOVE the secondary
    for Seattle,Browner, Chancellor, and Sherman : They're all tall—Browner

    is six-foot-four, Chancellor and Sherman are both six-foot-three—and
    physical... I personally don't like small Corners....I like my Team to
    have athletic physical corners....Which is rare in the League
    today.Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman was one of Harbaugh’s and DC
    Fangio former players at Stanford(Fangio should know Sherman's
    weaknesses)

    Picking this game is tricky,Both will be bringing
    their best and both will be "Up" for it...The Match-up of This Rookie QB
    and Offensive Coordinator is Darrell Bevell for Seattle against Vic Fangio will be interesting because
    though The Rookie Wilson is pretty savy...But he and Bevell will lStruggle in
    this battle, Fangio has been around the Block too many times and Bevell
    is a Average OC at best...It seems when they get down that is when they
    let Wilson loose...And Wilson , Ya HAVE to pressure him or he will do
    the comeback thing again here...
    The 49ers of last year was awesome,
    This year....who knows but so far, They have had issues losing at
    Minnesota and at home to the Giants..
    One Important thing missing from last year’s success? Awesome special
    teams play.... The 49ers constantly put the offense and defense in Fabulous
    positions in 2011. This season though the 49ers have struggled and it shows, particularly
    in punt and kickoff coverage, where they are ranked 30th in covering
    punts and 31st in defending kickoffs...“We do miss Blake(Blake Costanzo),” fullback Bruce Miller said. “He was a heck of a
    special teams player. He had a great feel for whatever team it was, he
    had a good feel for what was going on. He played for (special teams
    coach) Brad Seely for years.”
    Blake Costanzo was let loose by the
    49ers as he was basically only a special teams player....He Now plays
    for the Bears...Bet They wish they had that to do over...


    Alex Smith and OC Greg Roman Vs
    Gus Bradley...This will be Interesting,Moss,Davis, ect vs the
    secondary for Seattle,Browner, Chancellor, and Sherman : physical wr's
    vs Physical Aggressive secondary.. THIS WILL be the Battle! or will it?
    Does Roman have the balls to try that pass alot crap again this week?
    Good Question, I'd say Harbaugh wants a Physical run game this week.

    Last
    year these same coaches battled, 1st game @ Seattle was a ugly 19-17
    49er win..the 2nd game also was close @ 19-17 but all hell broke loose
    in the last 5 minutes of that game as Ted Ginn basically blew it open
    LATE in the 4th with a 102 Kickoff return and a 55 yard punt return...

    Ok,
    Special Teams are bad for the 9ers,They just had a Pass 1st game plan
    blow up in their face and I think this will be a conservative game plan
    hoping the defense forces Wilson into Mistakes,That Seattle secondary ya
    don't want to mess with I'm telling ya...Seattle will be conservative
    too...I can see a 19-17 game again this year...
    NFC underdogs are 32-5 vs spread
    this year, 4-1 as divisional road dogs.
    Seattle+7(2 units)
  • Wrecked
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 05-31-11
    • 887

    #2
    Tldr;
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    • MobFade
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-13-12
      • 677

      #3
      Originally posted by JUSTWINBABY
      NFC underdogs are 32-5 vs spread
      That's pretty sick. Agree that this figures to be a low-scoring game, which makes the +7 or +7.5 even more juicy. This is a really tough game for Seattle on a short week after New England with San Fran likely pissed off, but I like this spot as Seattle has not lost by more than a TD all year, and has had a chance to win on a final drive in every game. Seahawks still not getting any national love after the GB game, but this team is the truth. Going to stay away for now, but Seattle is the play if you're on this game.
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      • beermankirk
        SBR MVP
        • 11-17-09
        • 1512

        #4
        agree with Seattle if +7 or higher
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        • TwampSix
          SBR High Roller
          • 10-07-10
          • 237

          #5
          Seattle +7.5
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          • ermzzy
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-22-12
            • 863

            #6
            i have a feeling 49ers will blow them out, seattle +7.5 looks like a trap bet
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            • BayArea888
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-03-11
              • 870

              #7
              Originally posted by Wrecked
              Tldr;
              when does the narwhal bacon?
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              • House
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-04-11
                • 7088

                #8
                Check into what happened's the following week after the 49ers lose by double digys
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                • JUSTWINBABY
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 01-02-09
                  • 194

                  #9
                  Originally posted by House
                  Check into what happened's the following week after the 49ers lose by double digys
                  I have........but this is certainly not the Banged up Jets....I think we may have a VERY overrated team here in SF,A 7 point home fav got BLEW out last week? a 7 point fav over the Vikings that lost by 11? There be something wrong with this team....In the locker room? Special teams sucking?, I don't know, But they are not who some think they are it seems.
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                  • WHATaTEASE
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 02-07-11
                    • 157

                    #10
                    if its anywhere near 9-10 at kickoff im pulling the trigger on Seattle. That defense is no joke and Alex Smith isn't Steve Young
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                    • PatriotsGRL
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 10-04-07
                      • 63

                      #11
                      I got it at +9
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                      • bryanoens
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 09-28-12
                        • 224

                        #12
                        Originally posted by WHATaTEASE
                        if its anywhere near 9-10 at kickoff im pulling the trigger on Seattle. That defense is no joke and Alex Smith isn't Steve Young
                        5Dimes had it at +10 for seattle about 30 minutes ago. I grabbed it 2x
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                        • JUSTWINBABY
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 01-02-09
                          • 194

                          #13
                          I think I will add ....

                          Seattle+8(1 unit) There just is not 7-8 points separating these two teams, I don't care how mad SF is....Truth be told, I don't even think the 49ers will win this.
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                          • pixster
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-25-11
                            • 1386

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JUSTWINBABY
                            YTD 34-15(69%)+39.3 Units

                            Seahawks Defensive Coordinator is Gus
                            Bradley...Gus who? How did this guy come along and have the 2nd best
                            Defense(statistically) in the League(Probably the best)
                            Gus is a hold
                            over for Seattle from the Disastrous Jim Mora's season there...How did
                            this no name guy produce such a good defense? Welp He is connected with
                            Monte Kiffin for three years in Tampa, Don't confuse Monte Kiffin for
                            Goofy son Lane..Monte Kiffin has built some Great Defenses...Before the
                            Tampa Years he was DC for The North Dakota State Bison's ahh the
                            Bison's!!! As DC there he ran their defense—1997-2002 and 2005—the
                            Bison went 53-26....Bradley's unit led the Great West conference in
                            scoring defense and total defense....This guy has no name recognition from the Media (YET)and is quietly getting this defense better..

                            Seahawks Offensive Coordinator is
                            Darrell Bevell...Not another famously familiar name...He has some good
                            history of offensive teams he has been associated with, He has been here
                            last year and this season, He was a QB at Wisconsin and in '93 went
                            10-1-1 and won the Rose Bowl over UCLA..
                            In 2000, Bevell was
                            hired by the Packers as a offensive assistant working with Brett Farve
                            and the offense..In 2006, Childress was hired as the head coach of the
                            Minnesota Vikings,
                            and he brought Bevell to his team as offensive coordinator...There is
                            certainly not alot of offense this year going on as the Seahawks are
                            ranked 31st out of 32 teams..BUT they are 7th in the league running the
                            ball..

                            SF Defensive coordinator is Vic Fangio...he was brought from Stanford by Harbaugh And this guy is Solid, last year he turned the 49ers defense around producing a league-high 35 turnovers...
                            This
                            year he has the 9th in total defense..(9th run,2nd passing)In 2011,
                            Fangio led a 49ers defensive unit that ranked first in the NFL
                            against the run (77.3 yards per game), tied for first with 38 takeaways
                            and second in points allowed (14.3 points per game). The defense did not
                            allow a rushing touchdown through the first 14 games of the season,
                            setting a new NFL record. The unit allowed just three rushing touchdowns
                            all season, which is the lowest total allowed since the NFL went to a
                            16-game schedule in 1978. The 49ers defense also led the NFC in points
                            allowed (14.3), yards allowed per game (325.9), opposing quarterback
                            rating (73.6), first downs allowed (267) and ranked second in red zone
                            defense (41.2 pct.).
                            Prior to joining Stanford, Fangio served on the Baltimore Ravens
                            coaching staff from 2006-09 as a special assistant to the head coach
                            and linebackers coach. In his four seasons with Baltimore, the Ravens
                            led the NFL in total defense in 2006, ranked second in 2008 and third in
                            2009.

                            Fangio spent the previous four seasons as the defensive
                            coordinator of the Houston Texans (2002-05). His 2002 defense ranked
                            eighth in the AFC overall and fourth in the conference in pass defense.
                            The Texans scored three defensive touchdowns against the Pittsburgh
                            Steelers at Heinz Field in Week 14 en route to a 24-6 victory.

                            In
                            2004, the Texans set a team record and ranked fifth in the NFL with 22
                            interceptions, five of which were returned for touchdowns. Houston did
                            not allow a touchdown for 13 straight quarters from Week 13 to 16,
                            posting the longest stretch by any team in the league that season.

                            Fangio
                            served as the defensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts from
                            1999-2001. The Colts posted a 13-3 record in Fangio’s first season after
                            going just 6-26 the previous two years. Indianapolis won its first
                            division title in 15 years, while the Colts defense improved from last
                            to 15th under his guidance. The 2000 Colt defense tallied 42 sacks and
                            made strides in all other statistical categories....Like I said, This guy is SOLID.

                            SF Offensive Coordinator is Greg Roman...Under Roman’s direction in 2011, the 49ers notched a 13-3 record as the
                            offense ranked in the NFL’s top 10 in points per game (23.8 - tied for
                            10th), rushing yards per game (127.8 - 8th) and time of possession
                            (32:04 - 4th). Additionally, the offense committed just 10 turnovers (5
                            fumbles, 5 interceptions), which ranks tied for first in NFL history for
                            the fewest turnovers in a season, also setting a franchise record.
                            Roman has been a member of the coaching staffs of the Carolina Panthers
                            (1995-2001), Houston Texans (2002-03) and Baltimore Ravens (2006-07). He
                            also spent two seasons (2009-10) on Jim Harbaugh’s coaching staff at
                            Stanford....

                            Roman joined the Cardinal in 2009 as the running game
                            coordinator, with position responsibilities of tight ends and offensive
                            tackles. In 2010, he kept those responsibilities, but also added the
                            duties of associate coach and assistant head coach of the offense.
                            Roman
                            has been called the Mad Scientist of Coordinators,For Example,during
                            the 49ers' 27--19 Week 2 win over the Lions, as Roman used 10
                            different personnel groups in San Francisco's first 15 plays. On
                            consecutive snaps to open the game Roman went with one back, one tight
                            end and three wide receivers; two backs, one tight end and two
                            receivers; and one back, two tight ends and two receivers. On the fourth
                            play he used two backs and tight end Vernon Davis, who beat the safety
                            to the left corner of the end zone for a touchdown.
                            Against Green Bay a week earlier, Roman had guard Leonard Davis, a 6'6",
                            350-pound line up at tight end for the
                            first time in his career. On other occasions against the Packers and the
                            Lions he had 6'3", 308-pound guard Daniel Kilgore join Leonard Davis at
                            tight end. And when he really wanted to go big, Roman had 6'4",
                            293-pound defensive tackle Will Tukuafu at fullback.
                            Welp, The Mad
                            Scientist got alittle too cocky last week against the Giants,In last
                            year’s regular-season win over the Giants, the 49ers fooled their
                            opponent with a pass-first game plan..11 months after that win, the
                            49ers tried a similar plan against the
                            Giants on Sunday. This time, they exited with 3 interceptions, a
                            26-3 loss and the coach who panned the plan didn’t meet the media
                            after this one....Bad Plan against a Great Defensive Coordinator.


                            all in all the Coordinators are Rock solid for both Defenses,The Offensive Coordinator's....Bevell and Roman ...What
                            and how are they game planning this one? If Roman get's cute again this
                            week Gus Bradley and his Big Secondary will make him pay again...I
                            think he will game plan conservative.


                            I do LOVE the secondary
                            for Seattle,Browner, Chancellor, and Sherman : They're all tall—Browner

                            is six-foot-four, Chancellor and Sherman are both six-foot-three—and
                            physical... I personally don't like small Corners....I like my Team to
                            have athletic physical corners....Which is rare in the League
                            today.Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman was one of Harbaugh’s and DC
                            Fangio former players at Stanford(Fangio should know Sherman's
                            weaknesses)

                            Picking this game is tricky,Both will be bringing
                            their best and both will be "Up" for it...The Match-up of This Rookie QB
                            and Offensive Coordinator is Darrell Bevell for Seattle against Vic Fangio will be interesting because
                            though The Rookie Wilson is pretty savy...But he and Bevell will lStruggle in
                            this battle, Fangio has been around the Block too many times and Bevell
                            is a Average OC at best...It seems when they get down that is when they
                            let Wilson loose...And Wilson , Ya HAVE to pressure him or he will do
                            the comeback thing again here...
                            The 49ers of last year was awesome,
                            This year....who knows but so far, They have had issues losing at
                            Minnesota and at home to the Giants..
                            One Important thing missing from last year’s success? Awesome special
                            teams play.... The 49ers constantly put the offense and defense in Fabulous
                            positions in 2011. This season though the 49ers have struggled and it shows, particularly
                            in punt and kickoff coverage, where they are ranked 30th in covering
                            punts and 31st in defending kickoffs...“We do miss Blake(Blake Costanzo),” fullback Bruce Miller said. “He was a heck of a
                            special teams player. He had a great feel for whatever team it was, he
                            had a good feel for what was going on. He played for (special teams
                            coach) Brad Seely for years.”
                            Blake Costanzo was let loose by the
                            49ers as he was basically only a special teams player....He Now plays
                            for the Bears...Bet They wish they had that to do over...


                            Alex Smith and OC Greg Roman Vs
                            Gus Bradley...This will be Interesting,Moss,Davis, ect vs the
                            secondary for Seattle,Browner, Chancellor, and Sherman : physical wr's
                            vs Physical Aggressive secondary.. THIS WILL be the Battle! or will it?
                            Does Roman have the balls to try that pass alot crap again this week?
                            Good Question, I'd say Harbaugh wants a Physical run game this week.

                            Last
                            year these same coaches battled, 1st game @ Seattle was a ugly 19-17
                            49er win..the 2nd game also was close @ 19-17 but all hell broke loose
                            in the last 5 minutes of that game as Ted Ginn basically blew it open
                            LATE in the 4th with a 102 Kickoff return and a 55 yard punt return...

                            Ok,
                            Special Teams are bad for the 9ers,They just had a Pass 1st game plan
                            blow up in their face and I think this will be a conservative game plan
                            hoping the defense forces Wilson into Mistakes,That Seattle secondary ya
                            don't want to mess with I'm telling ya...Seattle will be conservative
                            too...I can see a 19-17 game again this year...
                            NFC underdogs are 32-5 vs spread
                            this year, 4-1 as divisional road dogs.
                            Seattle+7(2 units)
                            Good stuff, man. Great summary. People don't realize how much goes it to these write-ups. Keep it up - I'm reading - so should others.
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