Stony Brook - 3 11amET**

**Bullet Kays** · 03-10-12, 03:57 AM

Vermont is a strong play

**PR9** · 03-10-12, 03:59 AM

leaning vermont for now

**PR9** · 03-10-12, 05:45 AM

i dunno, this story may change my mind-

http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/stony-brook/campus-buzzing-as-stony-brook-hosts-america-east-final-1.3591518

home teams for this conference`s championship finals game have won 25 of 28 champ games. And Stony Brook hasn`t lost at home. This is a HUGE game for that school as you can read in that story. A win today would secure their first ever NCAA tournament appearance

**fergie's balls** · 03-10-12, 07:45 AM

LOVE Vermont here...Vermont lost earlier in year at SB by only 5, and they couldn't make a FG for final 10 min, something like that,so some revenge factor...not afraid of loud/small SB arena, the Vermont teams played well there past few years, won 5 out of last 7. Vermont more tested, last OT game,made lots of clutch free throws. , Vermont has actually played a tough schedule this year. Vermont plays good consisnent defense over past month or so. Not too worried about eaerly start/long drive, that crowd will wake them up quick.

Vermont wins by 6-9

**PR9** · 03-10-12, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by fergie's balls

LOVE Vermont here...Vermont lost earlier in year at SB by only 5, and they couldn't make a FG for final 10 min, something like that,so some revenge factor...not afraid of loud/small SB arena, the Vermont teams played well there past few years, won 5 out of last 7. Vermont more tested, last OT game,made lots of clutch free throws. , Vermont has actually played a tough schedule this year. Vermont plays good consisnent defense over past month or so. Not too worried about eaerly start/long drive, that crowd will wake them up quick.

Vermont wins by 6-9

I really don`t see much of a difference in their schedules..

here is vermont`s

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and here is stony brooks

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what makes vermonts schedule so much tougher and more superior to stonys

**fergie's balls** · 03-10-12, 08:49 AM

More or less referring to them losing to S Florida by a bucket and being within 5 or so of St Louis at the half...their rpi strgeth of schedule about 50 spots above SB. Just feel this line on neutral court is Vermont -3

**BIGRIG** · 03-10-12, 08:57 AM

I'm leaning towards stony -3 all day

**bosoxbruce** · 03-10-12, 09:01 AM

Vermont wins outright....easy money

**fergie's balls** · 03-10-12, 09:07 AM

Vermont bench outscored SB bench 68-12 in 2 games this year. Filthy. Apfeld is Vermont big man with big school athleticism,best athelete on the floor. Vermont also has bests hooting big man on the floor.

**PR9** · 03-10-12, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by fergie's balls

More or less referring to them losing to S Florida by a bucket and being within 5 or so of St Louis at the half...their rpi strgeth of schedule about 50 spots above SB. Just feel this line on neutral court is Vermont -3

okay thanks . was just looking at quality of opps and saw stony played indiana ,, and didn`t notice much of a difference with the rest of the skeds

liked vermont initially but still deciding. stony lost the championship game last year, and want to atone for that.. they are at home in front of a crazy crowd, and have so much to play for - making their first ncaa tournament appearance , and the fact they know how big it is for the area

they are also an EXCELLENT rebounding team, and that makes up for a lot of deficiencies... just look at the chicago bulls.. unless they seriously outrebound opponents, they are a mediocre team.. they are the best rebounding team in the league, but bulls are below .500 over the past 2 seasons when they dont outrebound their opponent (or when the rebounding is basically even)

creating 2nd chance opportunities on offense, and limiting 2nd chance opportunities on defense via clutch rebounding - is what theyre basically all about .. without that one component theyre your average run-of-the-mill .500 record team
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**Ambition** · 03-10-12, 09:38 AM

Stony Brook is 13-0 at home and the public is on Vermont? I'm leaning Stony..

**IXL** · 03-10-12, 09:46 AM

slam stony brook on the money line

**Ambition** · 03-10-12, 09:54 AM

Line is now -2.5

**RoadDog** · 03-10-12, 09:55 AM

Vermont is the play

**Ambition** · 03-10-12, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by RoadDog

Vermont is the play

I agree. I was leaning Stony at first with that great home record. It's hard to fade that especially when this game can send them to the NCAA tourney. I might make a small play on Vermont ML.

**kcburg** · 03-10-12, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by IXL

slam stony brook on the money line

ML is dropping so I would wait if this is your play..

**PR9** · 03-10-12, 10:00 AM

I really like the demeanor of their coach. He seems like a no nonsense guy but in a good way not a bad way

**RoadDog** · 03-10-12, 10:05 AM

These teams are eerily similar.

Vermont offensive rank - 138
Stony Brook offensive rank - 125

Vermont defensive rank - 126
Stony Brook defensive rank - 147

They basically have the same offensive tempo and same schedule (Vermont's was a tad tougher)

This is going to be real close and I'd advise to take the points. Vermont would work great in a teaser. Just my opinion.

**PR9** · 03-10-12, 10:27 AM

Stony Brook has 4 starting seniors, Vermont only has 1 .. the fact that Stony is more mature as a team with so many starting seniors tells me this is probably their time to finally make the dance of the ncaa tournament with a win today at home..

as that video alludes to, Vermonts coach wanted to get his young players some time in some of their recent games ... but the question is, will it be enough experience in such a small window for the rabidness they`ll face today in that arena against a more experienced team, and a team that is undefeated in that building ..

a young team can wilt under pressure if Stony gets a healthy early lead.

vermont is not really used to that so what happens then is the question.

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**fergie's balls** · 03-10-12, 10:38 AM

Disagree little bit last two games in hostile environments (and overtime, + made all clutch free throws)and their younger guys now have that under their belt. Younger guys also played at SB once already this season.

**Ketch** · 03-10-12, 10:40 AM

totally agree with this

Originally posted by Ambition

Stony Brook is 13-0 at home and the public is on Vermont? I'm leaning Stony..

**PR9** · 03-10-12, 10:42 AM

not only is Stony 13-0 at home this year, but the home team has won 25 of the 28 AE Conference Championship Final games

if it was a neutral site, I`d be on Vermont all day. But there is a mystique in that arena that can`t be denied .. Just the fact that they are a team full of seniors, and with a new arena coming soon for that team, and looking for their first ncaa tournament bid ... is a situational type of play in my mind

from everything I have read, it just seems like this is their time to finally make the dance. If not now, then when

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**Jermusom** · 03-10-12, 10:42 AM

Seawolves by 5.... The games going to come down to rebounding, and there is none better in the Am. East than Brenton... Second chance points and home court make up for stony's slight deficit in scoring...

**Mikail** · 03-10-12, 10:44 AM

Let's get Stoney!

**comala57** · 03-10-12, 10:46 AM

I was actually thinking more about the over 55.5 for 1h. game to even to pick sides

**fergie's balls** · 03-10-12, 11:20 AM

Stoney Brooke mystique at home? Vermonet has won 5 of last 7 at Stoney Brook. If you're holding your hat on a trend that has nothing to do with these teams, not a good play imo

**PR9** · 03-10-12, 11:20 AM

Two excellent defenses

**PR9** · 03-10-12, 11:30 AM

all of SBs shots are too strong, which means they are overhyped rushing everything. Don't think they can win this if it continues too much longer with the deficit already . The under will likely cash though .. Nropp and Damon who are 2 excellent total cappers over at covers had this at under , couldn't help but tail that (and Damon with his 1st half under)

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**southpaw74** · 03-10-12, 11:36 AM

Sb are so scared to shoot its silly. The moment has been way to big for them.

**PR9** · 03-10-12, 11:38 AM

they settled down and went on a run. Now we have a game

**4seasons** · 03-10-12, 11:38 AM

Stony looks like they're taking a dive by their demeanor. No effort, no hustle, totally standing around not runing any plays, taking horrific shots that couldn't hit the ocean, no resistance on D, just laying down on a meaningless game so the poor boys can make some cake. Notice when they're down double digits they play, and as soon as they get within range of the lead, they appear to be totally fixed and paid off. Vermont could win this game if they only had 4 players.

**PR9** · 03-10-12, 11:41 AM

Stony is setting things up for a 2nd half play at halftime

**4seasons** · 03-10-12, 11:42 AM

Stoney cuts it to 7, then gives up an EASY uncontested layup, or intentionally does

**4seasons** · 03-10-12, 11:42 AM

Stony carelessly turns the ball over, or intentionally does