As another poster referenced, they can do whatever they want. As for that line movement, it didn't happen on my book so you can't claim it happened universally.
You like trends, don't you? Most teams who need wins to make the NCAA tournament are shitting the bed. UCONN almost, Illinois definitely, Minnesota, Texas, etc.
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#38
Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
Watch a basketball game instead of line movement and you'll be better off man. I'm trying to help you.
Baylor struggles against well coached teams so you bet on Texas, a team who is coached worse than Baylor?
I watch basketball. All the time. Been watching it for 30 years.
Vegas doesn't give away free money.
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PickWinnerAllDay
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#39
Originally posted by No coincidences
I watch basketball. All the time. Been watching it for 30 years.
Vegas doesn't give away free money.
What was the line at the books in Vegas? You know as well as I do that Pinnacle and the actual lines in Vegas don't match up that often. Hell, I check my phone and a lot of lines were 1-2 points off a few weeks ago when I was in Vegas.
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#40
Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
As another poster referenced, they can do whatever they want. As for that line movement, it didn't happen on my book so you can't claim it happened universally.
You like trends, don't you? Most teams who need wins to make the NCAA tournament are shitting the bed. UCONN almost, Illinois definitely, Minnesota, Texas, etc.
Well, it at least went to 2.5 at your book.
Good luck long term betting against that kind of RLM in a high profile game where an unranked home team is already favored against a ranked opponent.
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PickWinnerAllDay
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#41
Originally posted by No coincidences
Well, it at least went to 2.5 at your book.
Good luck long term betting against that kind of RLM in a high profile game where an unranked home team is already favored against a ranked opponent.
No two games are ever the same. The sooner you realize that the sooner you will stop thinking Northern Iowa pounding Evansville a month ago (fictitious example) has anything to do with a Baylor @ Texas game.
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PickWinnerAllDay
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#42
Also keep in mind that 'Vegas' can afford to lose on games. You really think Vegas can't take a tiny microscopic hit like Baylor/Texas? There wasn't much money on this game. Not with a full slate of NBA.
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#43
Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
Also keep in mind that 'Vegas' can afford to lose on games. You really think Vegas can't take a tiny microscopic hit like Baylor/Texas? There wasn't much money on this game. Not with a full slate of NBA.
There were more bets on Baylor/Texas than any single NBA game. Baylor was 63% on the spread and 72% on the ML.
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PickWinnerAllDay
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#44
When you quote those stats, what book are you quoting and does the % apply to the number of bets or the amount of $?
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#45
Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
When you quote those stats, what book are you quoting and does the % apply to the number of bets or the amount of $?
If you bet solely off spreads and not the actual teams, you will lose. Simple as that.
Yes, Baylor is the better team and yes, Baylor struggles against certain kinds of teams. Texas isn't one of those types of teams.
So Baylor is the better team because they won?
Did you have them against Kansas State? Is that make Kansas State better than them?
So Baylor did not struggle against Texas??? They were losing by 10 at the half and only winning by 1 with less than a minute.
Most people thought Baylor was better than Kansas and they got whooped twice.
You'll get all the answers from watching basketball.
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PickWinnerAllDay
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#47
Originally posted by k13
So Baylor is the better team because they won?
Did you have them against Kansas State? Is that make Kansas State better than them?
So Baylor did not struggle against Texas??? They were losing by 10 at the half and only winning by 1 with less than a minute.
Most people thought Baylor was better than Kansas and they got whooped twice.
You'll get all the answers from watching basketball.
Comparing Kansas and Texas is dumb.... One is a pretty good basketball team with very talented players and one is an atrocious basketball team with very talented players.
This doesn't really answer my question though. You use these stats to make your decision, so shouldn't you know what books this website is getting their information from?
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PickWinnerAllDay
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#49
Also, according to that website, 80% of the public is on Clippers -2.5? I find it hard to believe that all of the books are sitting around praying that Golden State covers 2.5...
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Inkwell77
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#50
Texas is now 4-13 ats as a favorite this year. Unreal. Buried me today. I should have just stuck with the damn over bet. The big men on this team are absolutely horrible. Chapman has got to be one of the worst big men in all of college basketball. Watch the dude rebound, it is an absolute joke. This team just let Acy dominate inside in that second half.
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paco
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#51
U call him square, but im sure he is happy to be counting all his money.
He should take you out for drinks
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Inkwell77
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#52
Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
What was the line at the books in Vegas? You know as well as I do that Pinnacle and the actual lines in Vegas don't match up that often. Hell, I check my phone and a lot of lines were 1-2 points off a few weeks ago when I was in Vegas.
This is simply not true. It is very rare to see a line 2 points off from pinny in Vegas. VERY RARE. You will see a line 1 point off quite often but usually only for a short period of time. It is also different when you are talking about totals compared to sides. Also, the best indicator of what side the public is on in my opinion is ESPN's streak for cash and tonight on that site they had the prop, "Who will win this Matchup: Texas vs Baylor"
88.5% were on Baylor
11.5% were on Texas
If anyone does not think there was RLM in this game they are crazy. It wasn't a huge move, but still, it was there.
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PickWinnerAllDay
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#53
NO COIN, let me ask you this...
According to that site, 109 bettors are on Michigan +2, 9 bettors on Northwestern -2, line opened at NW -1 and moved to NW -2 despite 92% being on Michigan...
That makes Northwestern a play for you doesn't it?
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Cyclonenation
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#54
Cash in on Michigan!
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#55
Originally posted by paco
U call him square, but im sure he is happy to be counting all his money.
He should take you out for drinks
Dude, he's not up for the year. Trust me. He's constantly scrambling and in all-in desperation mode.
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#56
Originally posted by PickWinnerAllDay
NO COIN, let me ask you this...
According to that site, 109 bettors are on Michigan +2, 9 bettors on Northwestern -2, line opened at NW -1 and moved to NW -2 despite 92% being on Michigan...
That makes Northwestern a play for you doesn't it?
After 100 bets? Um, no.
I don't bet based on this alone BTW. If you visited my thread in PT, I lost quite a few huge square/public plays where the line wasn't even close to working in my favor.
Whose ghost are you BTW?
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#57
Originally posted by Inkwell77
This is simply not true. It is very rare to see a line 2 points off from pinny in Vegas. VERY RARE. You will see a line 1 point off quite often but usually only for a short period of time. It is also different when you are talking about totals compared to sides. Also, the best indicator of what side the public is on in my opinion is ESPN's streak for cash and tonight on that site they had the prop, "Who will win this Matchup: Texas vs Baylor"
88.5% were on Baylor
11.5% were on Texas
If anyone does not think there was RLM in this game they are crazy. It wasn't a huge move, but still, it was there.
I feel like a broken record, but this is how it's been basically all season long since football started -- a bunch of posters coming onto this board and scoffing at RLM like it doesn't matter. And you know what? For the most part, it hasn't this year for some reason.
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SASH
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#58
I really liked it when it got up to +3 ten minutes before the tip. I was already locked into +9 on a favorable sized teaser with nova +9 and baylor +9 so I left it alone