A ranked team +8.5 v. an unranked team?

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  • cleaveland
    SBR MVP
    • 04-04-10
    • 1559

    #1
    A ranked team +8.5 v. an unranked team?
    #16 San Diego State +8.5 at New Mexico? Is this unprecedented? I've seen ranked teams as like 4-5 point dogs to unranked teams, but 8.5? Is this history in the making?
  • BernardMadoff
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-12-09
    • 6679

    #2
    Line doesnt make sense.
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    • lite1up
      SBR MVP
      • 10-27-11
      • 2459

      #3
      makes very little sense....almost think New Mexico has to be the play.
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      • ebbearsfb1
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-07-08
        • 18815

        #4
        Is new mexico home? Hope its as easy as kansas yesterday
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        • lite1up
          SBR MVP
          • 10-27-11
          • 2459

          #5
          Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
          Is new mexico home? Hope its as easy as kansas yesterday

          Yeah, and New Mexico is one of the toughest places to play in the country. Still a strange line though.

          Unranked team favored over ranked team usually means the unranked team covers.
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          • southpaw74
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-21-09
            • 7104

            #6
            Originally posted by lite1up
            Yeah, and New Mexico is one of the toughest places to play in the country. Still a strange line though.

            Unranked team favored over ranked team usually means the unranked team covers.
            I always hear and think about that rule butnI never hear the stats. I wonder what that record actually is
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            • lite1up
              SBR MVP
              • 10-27-11
              • 2459

              #7
              Originally posted by southpaw74
              I always hear and think about that rule butnI never hear the stats. I wonder what that record actually is
              Yeah, I'm not sure but I know it's worked in the few instances it has applied this season (UVA vs. Michigan, and I remember there being at least one other time).

              For what it's worth, Kenpom has New Mexico ranked 18th and San Diego State 70th.
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              • HoulihansTX
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                • 02-12-09
                • 30566

                #8
                Originally posted by southpaw74
                I always hear and think about that rule butnI never hear the stats. I wonder what that record actually is
                The reason its tough to play there is b/c of Albequerqe's elevation.
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                • lite1up
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-27-11
                  • 2459

                  #9
                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                  The reason its tough to play there is b/c of Albequerqe's elevation.

                  He was referring to unranked favorites covering versus ranked dogs.

                  But yes, New Mexico is tough at home for largely the same reason Denver is (altitude).
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                  • alexn
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 11-06-10
                    • 258

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lite1up
                    He was referring to unranked favorites covering versus ranked dogs.

                    But yes, New Mexico is tough at home for largely the same reason Denver is (altitude).
                    Apparently not tough enough for the Aztecs who have won 4 of their last 6 meetings at The Pit
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                    • HoulihansTX
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                      • 02-12-09
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                      #11
                      Over
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                      • thebestthereis
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-01-09
                        • 11459

                        #12
                        The Pit
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                        • dotheopposite
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 02-12-08
                          • 426

                          #13
                          Before you bet this one, I would just watch the line movement as the day progress..Right now everyone taking SDST but if the line move up giving them more points, then you know its a trap
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                          • lite1up
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-27-11
                            • 2459

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dotheopposite
                            Before you bet this one, I would just watch the line movement as the day progress..Right now everyone taking SDST but if the line move up giving them more points, then you know its a trap

                            I think New Mexico is the play for the same reason Kansas was...IMO. I'm going to wait and see who Lang is on...San Diego State +8.5 has Lang written all over it in this spot. "No ranked team should be getting 8.5 points against an unranked team. Not today. Not ever"
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                            • dotheopposite
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 02-12-08
                              • 426

                              #15
                              The Line movement on the Baylor/Kansas game did exactly what I mentioned..everyone was taking Baylor points then the line moved and was giving baylor more points..creating a draw to bet on baylor..So I knew then I was going opposite...
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                              • Ambition
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-17-11
                                • 2060

                                #16
                                The line moved to +9 now, NM or no play.
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                                • dotheopposite
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 02-12-08
                                  • 426

                                  #17
                                  That is confirmed..New Mexico looks like the play..
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                                  • Ambition
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-17-11
                                    • 2060

                                    #18
                                    Yeah agreed. I made a small play on NM just because of this line movement.
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                                    • Ambition
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-17-11
                                      • 2060

                                      #19
                                      Now it's -10.5!
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                                      • cleaveland
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-04-10
                                        • 1559

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ambition
                                        Now it's -10.5!
                                        This has to be history in the making, double digit dog.
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                                        • naslax13
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-03-11
                                          • 1220

                                          #21
                                          I'm on new mexico.. is there any injuries here, its a bit of a dramatic point move
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                                          • GatorTD
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 02-13-10
                                            • 453

                                            #22
                                            Code:
                                            SDSU           NM
                                            15-2    RECORD        15-2
                                            74.8     PTS FOR        75.4
                                            62.2    PTS AGNST    58.0
                                            12.6     DIFF.        17.4
                                            27.5    DEF. REBOUNDS     26.7
                                            11.4    OFF. REBOUNDS    11.7
                                            46.9    FG%         46.8
                                            65.7     FT%        71.4
                                            6.1     3 POINTERS    7.7
                                            These teams dont look all that different.. NM even looks better in afew catagories. Vegas is trying to screw people royally by taking the ranked team.

                                            Oh and this from ESPN...
                                            San Diego State held usually high-scoring UNLV to a season-low 35.3 percent from the field and Jamaal Franklin scored 24 points -- including the game-winning layup with three-tenths of a second remaining to defeat the then-No. 12 Runnin' Rebels 69-67. Franklin sat out the previous possession after twisting his right ankle late in the game and the injury could hinder him in this one.
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                                            • naslax13
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-03-11
                                              • 1220

                                              #23
                                              thats what everyones missing . franklin is their guy. he's hurt
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                                              • Jago2008
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-18-11
                                                • 3047

                                                #24
                                                is everyone forgetting about Chase Tapley. No c'mon this line is ridiculous. I'm from San Diego, you're talking about 10+ points, there is so much "over" hype for the Lobos its borderline stupidity. These two teams last few years have not lost by a margin of more than 10. If you can grab SDST 10.5 or even 11, that is the play, otherwise stay away.

                                                San Diego State has won a nation-best 55 consecutive games against teams not ranked in the coaches' top 25 poll at game time.
                                                San Diego State has won 35 consecutive games as a top 25 AP team against teams that are unranked at game time (SDSU is 35-0 in program history).
                                                San Diego State has won three straight games against New Mexico.
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                                                • alexn
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 11-06-10
                                                  • 258

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by naslax13
                                                  thats what everyones missing . franklin is their guy. he's hurt
                                                  That is the perception but if you saw how he came back the very next play and hit the game winner you would agree with me that he's not as hurt as he's perceived to be. I think Vegas thinks he is based on the media perception and factored it into the line.

                                                  Franklin will get his 20 points today.
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                                                  • Letsgobows
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-12-11
                                                    • 422

                                                    #26
                                                    I got SD St. at +10.5 and couldn't believe it. Gunning for them and UNLV to cover to help me finish 4 units on top today
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                                                    • Ambition
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-17-11
                                                      • 2060

                                                      #27
                                                      Congrats to whoever had SDSU! I totally read this line movement wrong.
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                                                      • BernardMadoff
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-12-09
                                                        • 6679

                                                        #28
                                                        Figured this line was way off, glad I was able to put down on spread and moneyline at halftime on SDSU.
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                                                        • dotheopposite
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                                                          • 02-12-08
                                                          • 426

                                                          #29
                                                          wow. Nice they took care of biz 2nite
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                                                          • BettingWizard
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-28-09
                                                            • 6522

                                                            #30
                                                            classic reverse trap
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                                                            • caseyman011
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 11-01-11
                                                              • 583

                                                              #31
                                                              Yeah, there was something really, really wrong with both the initial spread and the fact that obviously big money was on UNM. Rarely see both being so significantly wrong.
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                                                              • Ambition
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-17-11
                                                                • 2060

                                                                #32
                                                                Who would of thought this line would have been so off, literally the complete opposite.

                                                                NM should have been +10.5.
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                                                                • Jago2008
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-18-11
                                                                  • 3047

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Jago2008
                                                                  is everyone forgetting about Chase Tapley. No c'mon this line is ridiculous. I'm from San Diego, you're talking about 10+ points, there is so much "over" hype for the Lobos its borderline stupidity. These two teams last few years have not lost by a margin of more than 10. If you can grab SDST 10.5 or even 11, that is the play, otherwise stay away.

                                                                  San Diego State has won a nation-best 55 consecutive games against teams not ranked in the coaches' top 25 poll at game time.
                                                                  San Diego State has won 35 consecutive games as a top 25 AP team against teams that are unranked at game time (SDSU is 35-0 in program history).
                                                                  San Diego State has won three straight games against New Mexico.
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                                                                  • thfootball
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-16-11
                                                                    • 1771

                                                                    #34
                                                                    this line was very high, i've played this unranked/against ranked, and it only worked for me once so far. A couple other times it didn't Hearsay says there is a 80% chance of the unranked winning, so if anyone has more insight into I'd like to read more on it.
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