Georgetown/DePaul looked fixed

[lite1up]

Every time Georgetown went on a run in this game and looked like they were going to blow it open, they'd have a series of turnovers followed by easy DePaul scores to bring the margin back down to 4-5. Happened 4 or 5 times in this game.

Georgetown takes a 14 point lead with 1:30 remaining, after which every single call went DePaul's way, Georgetown missed a few easy fast break opportunities and was uncharacteristically terrible at the foul line in this game, allowing DePaul to close the margin to 8....then, Georgetown has the ball up 8 inside 10 seconds and DePaul decides NOT to foul despite fouling from 1:30 on in this game, allowing Georgetown to run out the clock and win by 8. Line opened at 8.5 and closed at 9 in this game.

Coincidence? I'm not a big believer in games being fixed but this definitely had a weird feel to it.

[BernardMadoff]

First leg of a teaser.

[lite1up]

And yes, I had Georgetown -9, but I'm not here to whine or complain about the outcome as I've fully admitted in the past being on the right side of what seemed to be a fix. Game was just too weird, even when Georgetown took double digit leads on multiple occasions in this game you just knew they weren't going to cover the spread.

[Vol_Bengal]

I had DePaul +9... that said, didn't understand fouling with 11 seconds left down 7. Georgetown hit 1 of 2 and then DePaul goes down misses shot with about 4 seconds left... I understand not fouling there. Why would you? You're down three possessions and not enough time, didn't there was enough with 11 seconds either.

[lite1up]

First leg of a teaser.

Georgetown or DePaul?

[BernardMadoff]

I dont see why you would foul down 8 with 10 seconds, I dont see fishiness in that.

[lite1up]

I dont see why you would foul down 8 with 10 seconds, I dont see fishiness in that.

They fouled down 11 with like 20 seconds left....why would you foul in that spot but not down 8 with 10 seconds left?

The whole game was fishy. Not just this one instance. It really looked like Georgetown was instructed not to blow these guys out....every time they climbed above the spread they started letting DePaul get back within 4 or 5, happened throughout the game.

[lite1up]

I almost forgot the DePaul guy taking like 15 steps and not being called for traveling at about the 1:00 mark.....one of many calls in the last few minutes that went DePaul's way.

[ThingsFallApart]

So who was in on the fix? The refs that made GTown blow their whistle? The coaches who made their teams miss shots? The players who got a 600 on their SAT and cant run and do math but decided when to make shots and when not to?

Were they aware of the half point line fix this morning when they checked their homework and did some pregame run thrus and figured out the line moved so theyd have to adjusts their gameplan?

Or did Vegas contact GTown and DePaul so that basketball coaches making hundreds of thousands of dollars doing their passion as a living decided to fix a big east game to make a few thousand bucks?

Which one is it this sounds juicy

[lite1up]

I repeat, I'm not a believer in fixed games but this one either absolutely reeked or falls into the wild coincidences department.

[lite1up]

And I'm pretty sure I could start a thread titled "The sky is blue" and BernardMadoff would argue that it's not. All the guy does is troll...

[lite1up]

So who was in on the fix? The refs that made GTown blow their whistle? The coaches who made their teams miss shots? The players who got a 600 on their SAT and cant run and do math but decided when to make shots and when not to?

Were they aware of the half point line fix this morning when they checked their homework and did some pregame run thrus and figured out the line moved so theyd have to adjusts their gameplan?

Or did Vegas contact GTown and DePaul so that basketball coaches making hundreds of thousands of dollars doing their passion as a living decided to fix a big east game to make a few thousand bucks?

Which one is it this sounds juicy

You act as if point shaving has never occurred before

[jjesco425]

LOL i the end was weird i dont think it was really fixed but i did have depaul... that said the refs were very favourable for g town for 35 mins ill take last 5 though.... but watching game i believe depaul has more talent and depth but are very young and shot themselves in foot alot with sloppy play then fought back... and if wasnt for g town shooting out of there minds they probably lose this game and there is no discussion

[BernardMadoff]

Georgetown or DePaul?

Georgetown.

[BernardMadoff]

And I'm pretty sure I could start a thread titled "The sky is blue" and BernardMadoff would argue that it's not. All the guy does is troll...

I troll? New to me, Im one of the few that tries to provide insight on games on this forum instead of just posting threads say Team A +5 with no reasoning whatsoever.

[lite1up]

I troll? New to me, Im one of the few that tries to provide insight on games on this forum instead of just posting threads say Team A +5 with no reasoning whatsoever.

I guess, if "the line is sharp", or "I don't see that happening" is considered quality insight...

[BernardMadoff]

I guess, if "the line is sharp", or "I don't see that happening" is considered quality insight...

I dont ever recall saying anything like the line is sharp but if you say so. If I had Georgetown at the game spread and was watching the ended Id probably be upset too, sorry.

[robinhood]

The only people claiming point shaving doesn't exist are the bookies. Everybody knows it does. Look at Kentucky this year. I didn't watch the depaul game but if you have a gut feeling it wasn't on the level you're probably right.

[lite1up]

I dont ever recall saying anything like the line is sharp but if you say so. If I had Georgetown at the game spread and was watching the ended Id probably be upset too, sorry.

I'm done arguing. Nice hit with your teaser...Georgetown -9 was a force play for me, didn't like anything on this card. Should've seen the public all over Georgetown and known this game was going to come in right under the srpead. Happens all the time. Yes, I'm a bit annoyed.

Good luck w/ the rest of your teaser. I'm not trying to be an ass.

[BernardMadoff]

I'm done arguing. Nice hit with your teaser...Georgetown -9 was a force play for me, didn't like anything on this card. Should've seen the public all over Georgetown and known this game was going to come in right under the srpead. Happens all the time. Yes, I'm a bit annoyed.

Good luck w/ the rest of your teaser. I'm not trying to be an ass.

Thanks bro, good luck the rest of the night, I think some more goodies are left.

[lite1up]

Thanks bro, good luck the rest of the night, I think some more goodies are left.

GL to you too, I'm on Kentucky -16.5 (strictly a Lang fade) and that's it for the night. I liked Colorado State at -6 but don't like the line movement in that game.

[ThingsFallApart]

You act as if point shaving has never occurred before

Yes point shaving has happened. But considering there are something like 3500 games a year and an extremely heavy estimate of 10 fixed games a year means most likely this one wasnt.

Take your loss like a man. Plus guys arent shaving on the line anymore. Look at the Cricket scandal from last year, they are getting more creative because its too easy to tell when the line is at 9 or whatever.

Ive taken bad finishes myself man, just dont moan saying its fixed call it a bad beat and move on. Its gambling there is no science behind it outside of occurances you have no control of.

[lite1up]

Yes point shaving has happened. But considering there are something like 3500 games a year and an extremely heavy estimate of 10 fixed games a year means most likely this one wasnt.

Take your loss like a man. Plus guys arent shaving on the line anymore. Look at the Cricket scandal from last year, they are getting more creative because its too easy to tell when the line is at 9 or whatever.

Ive taken bad finishes myself man, just dont moan saying its fixed call it a bad beat and move on. Its gambling there is no science behind it outside of occurances you have no control of.

I thought I made it pretty clear in my original post that I wasn't whining or complaining about this beat. It sucks, is annoying, but I've been on the other side of these types of games enough to know that they even out over the course of time.

My point was, and I think anybody who watched this game would agree - it was a strange game through and through, especially the last few minutes. Strangest probably being the DePaul guy taking 5 steps or so and not being called for traveling with about 50 seconds left.

[BiffTFinancial]

I had DePaul +9... that said, didn't understand fouling with 11 seconds left down 7. Georgetown hit 1 of 2 and then DePaul goes down misses shot with about 4 seconds left... I understand not fouling there. Why would you? You're down three possessions and not enough time, didn't there was enough with 11 seconds either.

because DePaul is one of those teams (ala the Keno Davis Providence teams) that fouls a game into oblivion. there is no rhyme or reason, they simply reflexively and spasmodically foul. for that reason, ever DePaul game in which they are a dog is a NO PLAY on the under.

[HoulihansTX]

because DePaul is one of those teams (ala the Keno Davis Providence teams) that fouls a game into oblivion. there is no rhyme or reason, they simply reflexively and spasmodically foul. for that reason, ever DePaul game in which they are a dog is a NO PLAY on the under.

They have one of those idiot coaches that has their team engage in "dumb hustle".

[BiffTFinancial]

They have one of those idiot coaches that has their team engage in "dumb hustle".

exactly - "don't quit, fellas, don't quit - no matter how much score and time and good taste indicate that you should." UMass is in that category too. it's an absolute gift to over bettors. they foul as if they have something terrible waiting for them after the game and want it to last forever. DePaul plays dumb, no doubt, but i can't say that they play much dumber than Louisville.

i promise, the Pitino rant will be out of my system soon.

i may play Drake/S Illinois over tonight simply because it seems as if both teams are in some sort of fouling contest.

[lite1up]

Pretty much on the money. There was a sequence with about 20 seconds left in this game where the refs let about 3 separate fouls go before finally calling a foul on DePaul, letting an extra 8 seconds or so run off the clock if I recall correctly. Just a very frustrating game to watch, being on Georgetown.

[lite1up]

UMass is in that category too. it's an absolute gift to over bettors. they foul as if they have something terrible waiting for them after the game and want it to last forever. DePaul plays dumb, no doubt, but i can't say that they play much dumber than Louisville.

i promise, the Pitino rant will be out of my system soon.

i may play Drake/S Illinois over tonight simply because it seems as if both teams are in some sort of fouling contest.

The better question is, how does Oliver Purnell keep landing major conference jobs?

[BiffTFinancial]

The better question is, how does Oliver Purnell keep landing major conference jobs?

i'm guessing that he's a great interviewer and a helluva guy. he almost has to be with the results he produces.

also, bear in mind, DePaul has been lost in the wilderness for awhile (like, since Tommy Kleinscmidt graduated) but it's a program that should be able to compete and attract talent simply because location, similar to St. John's. step #1 in the Oliver Purnell turnaround plan has to be to get talent in the door to create a buzz and get more talent. i can see how, through some sort of convoluted logic, letting the players play as they wish like it's an AAU game and scoring 75 while giving up 85 works as part of that plan. odd as it sounds, the guys that DePaul was losing 2, 3, 4 years ago would rather come and play there now, so OP is doing what the administration expects, even wants. it's not good basketball, but in some odd way, it is arguably more likely to bring in Chicagoland talent than playing good basketball but losing to Georgetown 63-61.

[Ambition]

The game did look a little fishy to me as well but, it didn't matter to me since I cashed on the over.

[iceaxe56]

be a believer--you are ignorant to the fact that point shaving goes on everynight-No way to stop it--Players make good money and its the easiest thing in the world to do.

[bobby heenan]

i was on depaul....i didnt watch...followed on my phone ...read the play by play log too.....last 1:25 seemed pretty fishy....i dunno