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  • Gio21
    SBR MVP
    • 11-13-09
    • 1594

    #141
    Hawaii left at least 8 points or more at the line tonight I dont understand how these kids can be so horrid at one of the key fundamentals of the game.
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    • SASH
      SBR MVP
      • 04-09-11
      • 3200

      #142
      Originally posted by Gio21
      look at the discrepancy in free throws hawaii was abysmal at the line all night if they make their free throws they win hands down.
      ....and if Auburn isnt money from the 3point line, especially in the first half, then they lose the game. Theres 1000 different ways to look at the game or disect it. But at the end of the day Auburns got better players, theyre more athletic and more clutch. 8-1 team vs a 5-5 team
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      • 4seasons
        SBR MVP
        • 01-04-11
        • 1793

        #143
        Even with all the wretched calls (clear cut charge not called on Aub with about 5 sec left), point shaving perps, missed layups (bricked a 2 on 1 easy fast-break layup for a lead back with like 5 mins left) & free throws, careless turnovers (point guard tries to go alone 1 on 4), and impotent coaching (how do you not defend your own basket on an inbounds play allowing a layup, or not get like a play going where your shooter like Ray Allen does and come open from behind a screen ... can someone teach these imbeciles how to set a screen??), Auburn gave up the lead for the first time with seconds left, and so by some wicked evil demon Hawaii just has to lose.
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        • Gio21
          SBR MVP
          • 11-13-09
          • 1594

          #144
          Originally posted by SASH
          ....and if Auburn isnt money from the 3point line, especially in the first half, then they lose the game. Theres 1000 different ways to look at the game or disect it. But at the end of the day Auburns got better players, theyre more athletic and more clutch. 8-1 team vs a 5-5 team
          You win and lose games at the line. Not making free throws will kill you in close games theres no way you will win if you are leaving points at the line. Hawaii had more chances from the line and left a shit load of points that would have made the difference in the game. Why do you think coaches stress making free throws? They are free points that need to be taken advantage of every opportunity, as they can easily change the outcome of the game.
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          • BernardMadoff
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-12-09
            • 6679

            #145
            Everybody talking about missed free throws, had everyone been on Auburn and they lost, Im sure the fact would be brought up that Hawaii had more than double the free throw attempts. Shooting free throws is hardest at the end of the game when youre more fatigued, add in pressure. I think Auburn won because they wanted it more and had more effective halfcourt sets and plays, especially out of timeouts.
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            • SASH
              SBR MVP
              • 04-09-11
              • 3200

              #146
              disagree, i knew auburn was gonna win this game early on...regardless of whatever happened at the stripe. Not convinced by your argument that all or most games are won and lost at the line. Certainly not this game. Auburn want exactly lighting it up at the foul line either. They shot 63% compared to Hawaiis slightly less dismal 56%. Theyre was only a 2 to 1 discrepency in foul shots attempted by Hawaii. It wasnt some ridiculos number like in the Arizona/Gonzaga game last weekend where the zags had a 4 to 1 edge. Or earlier this week in the Butler/Gonzaga game where the zags again had more than a 4 to 1 edge in foul shots attempted. Thats why Hawaiis a .500 team, theyre a bunch of choke artists that dont make foul shots or perform other clutch tasks
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              • todd24kb
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 06-21-10
                • 646

                #147
                just wait until tomorrow when they see the 49ers.

                Auburn is going to get destroyed by a 6-5 Long Beach State. LBSU is much, much better than their record shows.

                I'm going to put 5 bills if the line is LBSU -6 or less.
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                • Jerm3462
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-09-09
                  • 4454

                  #148
                  Originally posted by Jerm3462
                  I love how everyone and their mothers are on Hawaii tonight.

                  We know what that usually indicates.

                  Forum burial.

                  Aub+2 for me.

                  Forum Burial
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                  • Gio21
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-13-09
                    • 1594

                    #149
                    Originally posted by SASH
                    disagree, i knew auburn was gonna win this game early on...regardless of whatever happened at the stripe. Not convinced by your argument that all or most games are won and lost at the line. Certainly not this game. Auburn want exactly lighting it up at the foul line either. They shot 63% compared to Hawaiis slightly less dismal 56%. Theyre was only a 2 to 1 discrepency in foul shots attempted by Hawaii. It wasnt some ridiculos number like in the Arizona/Gonzaga game last weekend where the zags had a 4 to 1 edge. Or earlier this week in the Butler/Gonzaga game where the zags again had more than a 4 to 1 edge in foul shots attempted. Thats why Hawaiis a .500 team, theyre a bunch of choke artists that dont make foul shots or perform other clutch tasks
                    You are wrong on this one Hawaii shot 12 more free throws than Aubrun and lost by 3 even with Auburn shooting a higher percentage the entire game that went to the wire. Your argument is flawed All you have to do is basic math. They lost by 3 had 12 more free throw shots than Auburn and you are telling me that Hawaii couldn't have won the game if the hit their free throws in a one possesion game at the end? C'mon man seriously? No team wants to have a 2 to 1 descripency in any aspect of the game.
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                    • BigDan
                      Restricted User
                      • 04-28-11
                      • 5104

                      #150
                      Originally posted by Gio21
                      You are wrong on this one Hawaii shot 12 more free throws than Aubrun and lost by 3 even with Auburn shooting a higher percentage the entire game that went to the wire. Your argument is flawed All you have to do is basic math. They lost by 3 had 12 more free throw shots than Auburn and you are telling me that Hawaii couldn't have won the game if the hit their free throws in a one possesion game at the end? C'mon man seriously?

                      you make some very broad assumptions, you cant just take the free throws and assume IF (big if btw) Hawaii makes free throws nothing else in the gm changes, not like we talking about them missing free throws trying to ice a gm, we talking about a team that trailed basically wire to wire, get over yourself, it a new day..
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                      • Gio21
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-13-09
                        • 1594

                        #151
                        Lol you guys are all funny
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                        • BigDan
                          Restricted User
                          • 04-28-11
                          • 5104

                          #152
                          Originally posted by Gio21
                          Lol you guys are all funny

                          you are comical if you think you can put free throws missed throughout the gm in a vacuum, but hey whatever helps you get over a loss..
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                          • No coincidences
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-18-10
                            • 76300

                            #153
                            Still can't believe a charge wasn't called on that last Auburn drive and dish. Fvcking point guard ran that Hawai'i defender over.
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                            • BigDan
                              Restricted User
                              • 04-28-11
                              • 5104

                              #154
                              Originally posted by No coincidences
                              Still can't believe a charge wasn't called on that last Auburn drive and dish. Fvcking point guard ran that Hawai'i defender over.

                              i do agree with this..i thought 4sure it was a charge then aub was gonna foul and screw me..then again hawaii would have had to make both free throws to beat me at least and that wasnt happening
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                              • Gio21
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-13-09
                                • 1594

                                #155
                                Originally posted by BigDan
                                you are comical if you think you can put free throws missed throughout the gm in a vacuum, but hey whatever helps you get over a loss..
                                Im over the lost bro dont worry about me but that doesnt mean I still dont have an opinion on the game. If you really think missing free throws wont heavily impact a game especially if you shot 12 more in the game and lose by 3 wont hurt your chances of winning I dont know what to tell you. You are suppose to make your free throws they are FREE POINTS!!!!!! Hence the FREE in FREE THROWS
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                                • BigDan
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 04-28-11
                                  • 5104

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by Gio21
                                  Im over the lost bro dont worry about me but that doesnt mean I still dont have an opinion on the game. If you really think missing free throws wont heavily impact a game especially if you shot 12 more in the game and lose by 3 wont hurt your chances of winning I dont know what to tell you. You are suppose to make your free throws they are FREE POINTS!!!!!!

                                  didnt say it doesnt impact the gm, im saying it is foolish to look at missed free throws and final score and decide "oh they would have won if they just made 4 more fts", you cold prob say that in at least 50% of games..the fact is introducing that variable changes everything else thru the coarse of the gm..like i said you cant just put them in a vacuum.. if you dont understand that there really nothing to talk about..
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                                  • southpaw74
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-21-09
                                    • 7104

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by todd24kb
                                    just wait until tomorrow when they see the 49ers.

                                    Auburn is going to get destroyed by a 6-5 Long Beach State. LBSU is much, much better than their record shows.

                                    I'm going to put 5 bills if the line is LBSU -6 or less.
                                    Try -10.5...butnthey should cover that easily as well.
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                                    • BigDofBA
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-30-09
                                      • 19313

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by SASH
                                      no way, about halfway through the 1st half you knew auburn was gonna win this game
                                      LMAO. Really? That's why Auburn was losing with 8 seconds to go right?

                                      Auburn shot about as well as they possible could. Hawaii missed a ton of easy shots and shot horribly at the free throw line yet they were winning with 8 seconds left.

                                      Auburn was anything but a lock here. Neither team was. They both suck and it was a complete coinflip. Don't act like you knew Auburn was going to win.

                                      And yes, you can look at missed free throws when it's a one point game with 8 seconds to go and the team you bet on has missed about 13 of them. Auburn really wasn't any better imo.

                                      That being said, both teams suck and that's what I get for betting on a shit team. These things happen. I don't consider it a bad beat at all, I'm just saying it could have easily went my way but it didn't.

                                      These people that took Auburn are acting like they knew Auburn was going to win yet with as bad as Hawaii played and as good as Auburn played, Hawaii was winning the game with 8 seconds to go.
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                                      • Gio21
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-13-09
                                        • 1594

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by BigDan
                                        didnt say it doesnt impact the gm, im saying it is foolish to look at missed free throws and final score and decide "oh they would have won if they just made 4 more fts", you cold prob say that in at least 50% of games..the fact is introducing that variable changes everything else thru the coarse of the gm..like i said you cant just put them in a vacuum.. if you dont understand that there really nothing to talk about..
                                        The game was close through out no one dominated anyone this game. Hit your free throws in close games you can win or lose its a basic ideology of playing the game.
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                                        • SASH
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-09-11
                                          • 3200

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by BigDan
                                          didnt say it doesnt impact the gm, im saying it is foolish to look at missed free throws and final score and decide "oh they would have won if they just made 4 more fts", you cold prob say that in at least 50% of games..the fact is introducing that variable changes everything else thru the coarse of the gm..like i said you cant just put them in a vacuum.. if you dont understand that there really nothing to talk about..
                                          BigDan hit it right on the head. Totally agree with you here
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                                          • BigDan
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 04-28-11
                                            • 5104

                                            #161
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                                            • CoachV
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 11-28-11
                                              • 336

                                              #162
                                              I only saw the last 10 minutes of the game but Hawaii should have won I believe. As badly as they played they had the lead with 8 seconds left and poor defense cost them the game. Neither team impressed me and they both stink - but Hawaii should have beat them. They didn't - end of story. Lots of blown cash. Move on
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