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  • head_strong
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    #1
    2/20-Dollars & Sense
    Cleveland State @ Old Dominion-4 (buying 1.5 pts)

    -Cleveland St Team Total is set @ O/U 60.
    -Cleveland St has given up 72+ points over the last 4 games.
    -1st time Cleveland St is a underdog since 1/9.
    -ODU is 12-2 @ home (3pt loss to Georgetown & 9pt loss to VCU)
    -ODU 9th in the nation in rebounds per game (40)

    Force someone to beat you besides Norris Cole and I think ODU will get to the number.
  • HoulihansTX
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    • 02-12-09
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    #2
    I played ODU -5. Better team, and conference.

    Got Ohio St. +1

    LSU +10.5
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    • head_strong
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      #3
      Originally posted by HoulihansTX
      I played ODU -5. Better team, and conference.

      Got Ohio St. +1

      LSU +10.5
      GL Houli...leaning Ohio St as well but going to run it ingame.
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      • head_strong
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        • 07-02-08
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        #4
        Originally posted by head_strong
        Force someone to beat you besides Norris Cole and I think ODU will get to the number.
        Cole has 18pts in the first 10 minutes, double-teaming him is not against the rules.
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        • head_strong
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          #5
          ODU-31 CSU-28 @ the half (Cole 24pts)

          2nd Half Line
          CSU+2.5 ODU-2.5
          O/U 68.5
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          • LockPickMaster
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            • 02-15-09
            • 1943

            #6
            Are you on ODU 2nd half?
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            • head_strong
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              #7
              Originally posted by LockPickMaster
              Are you on ODU 2nd half?
              no, just for the game...but the 2nd half equaled the original game line.
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              • head_strong
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                #8
                Norris Cole got me for 35, but I'll take the cover. ODU-74 CSU-63
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                • LockPickMaster
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                  #9
                  what are your other plays today
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                  • head_strong
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                    • 07-02-08
                    • 4318

                    #10
                    right now I'm scouting/hopefully live betting Clemson @ Miami...

                    Leaning CAL+1.5
                    -UCLA has covered 4 of the last 5 ATS (won 10 of last 11 SU)
                    -CAL has covered 1 of the last 5 ATS (won 5 of last 11 SU)
                    -UCLA led by as many as 12 in the 1st meeting but needed a Reeves Nelson tip-in at the buzzard to get the 86-84 win.
                    -Underdogs are 11-2-1 in Pac-10 games when the spread is less than 3 points.
                    *this game is also offered live so there might not be much value getting in pregame here unless you are backing UCLA and are worried about the line becoming overinflated if they get out to an early lead.
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                    • LockPickMaster
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by head_strong
                      right now I'm scouting/hopefully live betting Clemson @ Miami...

                      Leaning CAL+1.5
                      -UCLA has covered 4 of the last 5 ATS (won 10 of last 11 SU)
                      -CAL has covered 1 of the last 5 ATS (won 5 of last 11 SU)
                      -UCLA led by as many as 12 in the 1st meeting but needed a Reeves Nelson tip-in at the buzzard to get the 86-84 win.
                      -Underdogs are 11-2-1 in Pac-10 games when the spread is less than 3 points.
                      *this game is also offered live so there might not be much value getting in pregame here unless you are backing UCLA and are worried about the line becoming overinflated if they get out to an early lead.
                      Hopefully Crabbe isn't 100 percent tonight.
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                      • head_strong
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                        #12
                        The West came to play, clearly Kobe is going for MVP, I haven't seen him go this hard in a game all season ...West-130 Live (@ 5Dimes).
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                        • head_strong
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                          #13
                          Kobe 21 points @ the half
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                          • head_strong
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by head_strong
                            -1st time Cleveland St is a underdog since 1/9.
                            -ODU 9th in the nation in rebounds per game (40)
                            -Cleveland St is now 0-4 SU & 0-4 ATS when underdog.
                            -Rebound Margin ODU-51 CSU-22
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                            • No coincidences
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                              • 01-18-10
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                              #15
                              Nice call!

                              You playing Cal?
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                              • head_strong
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by No coincidences
                                Nice call!

                                You playing Cal?
                                not pregame, didn't plan on getting any action on the all-star game but it appeared the West was playing a lot harder so I made a move. Gonna put Cal on the other tv and scout out the 1st half and potentially jump on live or make a 2nd half play. Gl with your play No coin
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                                • No coincidences
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by head_strong
                                  not pregame, didn't plan on getting any action on the all-star game but it appeared the West was playing a lot harder so I made a move. Gonna put Cal on the other tv and scout out the 1st half and potentially jump on live or make a 2nd half play. Gl with your play No Coin


                                  I'm going to wait and see how this one starts as well.
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                                  • head_strong
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                                    #18
                                    started to feel like Cal might be too sharp, surprised to see the same patterns they used successfully in the Washington Arizona game yesterday. I can picture lots of small paranoid bets backing UCLA and some heavy plays on Cal trying to outsmart the system...should be interesting.
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                                    • No coincidences
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by head_strong
                                      started to feel like Cal might be too sharp, surprised to see the same patterns they used successfully in the Washington Arizona game yesterday. I can picture lots of small paranoid bets backing UCLA and some heavy plays on Cal trying to outsmart the system...should be interesting.
                                      It's more simple than that to me -- Cal is garbage and getting worse as the season progresses. I have a hard time backing a team like that, even though I love short home dogs.
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                                      • head_strong
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                                        #20
                                        I hear ya, I approach each day differently depending on whats trending and try to stay on the opposite side of the trend. For all the reasons you would hate Cal would be all the reasons why I would like them. I just figure no matter what you can think of as an edge or research or whatever has already been factored in by the odds makers x 1000. I've gave up several years ago trying to out-think/outsmart the lines makers and just decided to try and get on the same side as them. Just 2 different approaches, but as you know there are 1,000's of ways to approach this business.
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                                        • No coincidences
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by head_strong
                                          I hear ya, I approach each day differently depending on whats trending and try to stay on the opposite side of the trend. For all the reasons you would hate Cal would be all the reasons why I would like them. I just figure no matter what you can think of as an edge or research or whatever has already been factored in by the odds makers x 1000. I've gave up several years ago trying to out-think/outsmart the lines makers and decided to try and get on the same as them. just 2 different approaches, but as you know there are 1,000's of ways to approach this business.


                                          I try to think like this as well, but it seems like when I bet on a shit team because they're "due", their shitiness tends to continue.
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                                          • head_strong
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                                            #22
                                            I consider myself a tight player, even if a team is "due" I have to see something I view as a tip-off before I'm willing to commit $, if not there is always another game right around the corner. The things I find the most helpful for CBB is team totals, player props and where the money is, offered live, stats, ats records, etc all is secondary for myself.
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                                            • No coincidences
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by head_strong
                                              I consider myself a tight player, even if a team is "due" I have to see something I view as a tip-off before I'm willing to commit $, if not there is always another game right around the corner. The things I find the most helpful for CBB is team totals, player props and where the money is, stats, ats records, etc all is secondary for myself.
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                                              • head_strong
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                                                #24
                                                missed the Cal line @ the 7 minute timeout, did you happen to see it? guessing it was around Cal-5.5
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                                                • head_strong
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                                                  #25
                                                  East+415 Live...tempting insurance.
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                                                  • No coincidences
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by head_strong
                                                    missed the Cal line @ the 7 minute timeout, did you happen to see it? guessing it was around Cal-5.5
                                                    My book has -6.5.
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                                                    • head_strong
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                      My book has -6.5.
                                                      thanks man, I need this all-star game over so I can pay attention.
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                                                      • head_strong
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by head_strong
                                                        The West came to play, clearly Kobe is going for MVP, I haven't seen him go this hard in a game all season ...West-130 Live (@ 5Dimes).
                                                        I like how he down played everything pregame, limited minutes, probably shoot a few jump shots because us old guys have to save our legs...after watching the 1st 3 possessions I knew that was a lie, got to give it to him though that up and under dunk in the 1st was nice. But if jacking 26 shots while posting 37pts 13reb 3ast 3stl is not going for the MVP I don't know what is. King James had a small argument with the triple-double (29pts 12reb 10ast) since Jordan was the only other one to do that.
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                                                        • HoulihansTX
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                                                          #29
                                                          But if jacking 26 shots while posting 37pts 13reb 3ast 3stl is not going for the MVP I don't know what is.

                                                          Only two other players have won the MVP in LA, that were not from an LA team. Games was slightly rigged.
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                                                          • head_strong
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                                                            #30
                                                            I'm just glad the West got it done, when the East cut the lead late in the 4th I was starting to regret passing on insurance as high as East+925, wish I could have got some action on Kobe MVP I saw people posting numbers as high as +500.

                                                            *sorry Kobe had 14 rebounds not 13.
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                                                            • HoulihansTX
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                                                              #31
                                                              Oh yeah. Two things that matter when handicapping that no one pays attention to. Rebounding, and Free throw percentage.

                                                              ODU out-rebounding Cleveland St. sealed the cover. Other than that Cleveland St. was in the game.

                                                              The team that is similar to ODU is San Diego St. I know they are ranked #6, but they arent even close to that. They dominate the competition on the west coast, b/c they are much bigger than their opponents. Therefore they get extra possessions, and score on offensive rebounds. Once they start playing bigger teams they wont have that advantage, and will be subsequently exposed. THey are horrible fomr the Free Throw line, and dont have high shooting percentages from the field, or three point range. If San Diego St. plays a big team in March Madness, take the other team ATS.

                                                              In short ,my opinion is that in all ball sports the key is possessions. Have more than your opponent, and you will most likely score more points.

                                                              But this weekend San Diego St, will cover against BYU at home in a revenge game.
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