Top 25 "FRAUD" teams ?

TPowell · 02-16-11, 11:47 PM

early exits= Louisville, Florida, Notre Dame (maybe Purdue?)

Not to call the above team frauds, I just think the NCAA tourny won't be kind to them unless they get a great draw

sicky123 · 02-17-11, 12:08 AM

Yea. All these teams are good so fraud is strong, but how about Texas A&M. I can't really see them doing much can you ?

BGboothA · 02-17-11, 12:17 AM

FLO-RIDA that simple

TPowell · 02-17-11, 12:24 AM

A&M will bully midmajor if the chance is there (like they did Utah State last here). Is Texas A&M only winning 1 game or 2 being a fraud for the 21st best team in the country though?

Bcatswin · 02-17-11, 12:26 AM

Not Xavier, they are notorious for making runs in the dance...

agharah1 · 02-17-11, 12:30 AM

By "fraud" I'm going to assume you mean which team is least likely to make it past the Sweet Sixteen. Those teams are:

Pitt has inconsistent scoring and defense.
BYU has god-awful defense.
Texas because I don't trust a Rick Barnes coached team.
Texas A&M can't score enough.
Kentucky is too short-handed.
Villanova just isn't that talented.
Wisconsin because their style of play never translates to the tournament.
Cuse because Boeheim refuses to play man defense.

Kustac · 02-17-11, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by agharah1

By "fraud" I'm going to assume you mean which team is least likely to make it past the Sweet Sixteen. Those teams are: Pitt has inconsistent scoring and defense. BYU has god-awful defense. Texas because I don't trust a Rick Barnes coached team. Texas A&M can't score enough. Kentucky is too short-handed. Villanova just isn't that talented. Wisconsin because their style of play never translates to the tournament. Cuse because Boeheim refuses to play man defense.

Well put! Somebody watches some some serious basketball. Maybe pushing it on a couple but great points on all of them.

Dukebluejms · 02-17-11, 01:41 AM

Kentucky is one of the most overrated teams in the country. I could also see BYU getting knocked out early.

Tribetime217 · 02-17-11, 01:44 AM

To think the Gators are gonna make an early exit is just dumb

EasyHustlin · 02-17-11, 01:48 AM

Disagree on Texas and Notre Dame. Realize that this is a major down year for college hoops!

BigDofBA · 02-17-11, 01:50 AM

Notre Dame, Purdue, and BYU are not overrated.

L'ville, Syracuse, and Kentucky will have early exits.

A&M is a good tourney team. They are rated right where they should be.

CollegeOverUnder · 02-17-11, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by Tribetime217

To think the Gators are gonna make an early exit is just dumb

If Parsons doesnt play then Florida is toast

ex50warrior · 02-17-11, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

early exits= Louisville, Florida, Notre Dame (maybe Purdue?)

Not to call the above team frauds, I just think the NCAA tourny won't be kind to them unless they get a great draw

Agree with all of these early exit candidates.

thebestthereis · 02-17-11, 07:58 AM

Every team on the list except one will get bounced

raiderhater9572 · 02-17-11, 07:58 AM

UCONN and BYU because they are one-man teams

zr2786 · 02-17-11, 08:41 AM

UCONN will have an early exit if Kemba doesnt play amazing!

How can you say that Notre Dame is a fraud? They are 2nd in the Big East and have taken down the best teams in the Big East. Makes no sense!

zanman822 · 02-17-11, 08:47 AM

Ohio State is for real this year. I think Florida is gone early.

GoldRush7 · 02-17-11, 08:49 AM

villanova is a fraud, pretty shitty team

hankcream · 02-17-11, 09:33 AM

Texas A&M doesn't belong in the top 25.

TrapperDapper · 02-17-11, 09:47 AM

I think Nova is the kind of team that can be really solid by tourney time. Bell stepping up should really give them some depth in the back court.

Kustac · 02-17-11, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Dukebluejms

Kentucky is one of the most overrated teams in the country. I could also see BYU getting knocked out early.

Not True - rated that high due to what they have done on good nights but they can't put it together consistently yet

I take it your a Duke fan - if Duke had run into Kentucky the night Kentucky pounded Notre Dame by 14 on neutral court or when Kentucky went on the road at Louisville and won by 15 - either of those games Duke would have been bounced from the tournament if they caught that level of performance from Kentucky

point being if your a 1 or 2 seed in the tournament Kentucky is not a lower seed you want around you, not saying it will happen because it probably won't, but Kentucky is two times more likely to pull a major upset than almost any other team ranked down around 17-25 range b/c Kentucky only has to show up to play (which many times this year they haven't) and they're in the game neck and neck compared to other teams that low have to hope for a below average game from the highly ranked team (most people who understand the game will get the point I'm trying to make)

agharah1 · 02-17-11, 10:06 AM

I also think since SDSU has never won a tournament game I'll remain skeptical. If they're a 2 seed I could still see a 7/10 winner taking them down.

Purdue is a legit team, they were able to get to the Sweet Sixteen last year with defense alone. They are tough, experienced, and have good leadership from JaJuan Johnson and ET'waun Moore.

C-Low420 · 02-17-11, 10:15 AM

I see San Diego St winning a couple games in the tourney this year. Also, for top 10 teams I think BYU will be a let down

TPowell · 02-17-11, 11:01 AM

Notre Dame was hot last year and still got bounced early

CTOWNsCAPPIN · 02-17-11, 11:36 AM

Kentucky is far too inconsistent of a team for me to have any faith in them come tourny time. An under-the-radar team that could make some noise and hit the elite eight....Duquesne

zr2786 · 02-17-11, 01:01 PM

Last year Notre Dame didnt have the team that they have this year. They are well rounded this year instead of the offense going through Luke Harongody like it did last year, it is being spread across all the starters and bench players. They are def not the fraud of the top 25

phish4buds · 02-17-11, 01:22 PM

notre dame is solid, so is wisconsin.

PaperTrail07 · 02-17-11, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

early exits= Louisville, Florida, Notre Dame (maybe Purdue?)

Not to call the above team frauds, I just think the NCAA tourny won't be kind to them unless they get a great draw

Agree-I think FL loses because the arent that good however....they could get beat by anyone and anytime

sicky123 · 02-18-11, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

A&M will bully midmajor if the chance is there (like they did Utah State last here). Is Texas A&M only winning 1 game or 2 being a fraud for the 21st best team in the country though?

No. I don't think they will win a game though, and if they do it will be interesting to see what happens in the next game. If they get blown out in the 2nd then I think it would show they were a fraud. All depending who they play in both of course..

hanco21 · 02-18-11, 12:21 AM

I think San Diego St will be exposed, good team but soft schedule will hurt them in March.

Brian891 · 02-18-11, 12:22 AM

Kentucky is very inconsistent, and i have watched san diego state a few times. They might advance to the sweet 16, maybe, but no further. they dont close out games well. on the flip side i think temple could make a deep run. Georgetown too. This is gonna be an awesome tourney. So many teams could win it.

sicky123 · 02-18-11, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by Brian891

Kentucky is very inconsistent, and i have watched san diego state a few times. They might advance to the sweet 16, maybe, but no further. they dont close out games well. on the flip side i think temple could make a deep run. Georgetown too. This is gonna be an awesome tourney. So many teams could win it.

What do you like most about temple ?

I don't know much about this team.

sicky123 · 02-18-11, 02:04 AM

How good is vandy, anyways ?

I see a lot of you picking Florida to lose early, but the dores just lost to Florida and were pretty lucky to beat Georgia.

agharah1 · 02-18-11, 02:35 AM

Jay Bilas once made a very astute observation about college basketball. Unlike most sports, in college basketball offense wins championships. The average college basketball player's inability to hit a wide open jump shot more than 35% of the time is all the defense most teams will need. The team to win the tournament is usually the one who is least likely to have an off shooting night. In 2010 UNC won it all because Wayne Ellington just wouldn't miss. I saw SDSU get behind early to Wisconsin Green Bay and IUPUI earlier this year because of poor shooting. You can't trust Florida State's jump shooting as their loss to Auburn shows. Cuse has never been known for jump shooting, either.

Other than that, I really really want to believe Texas is for real but I'm still not 100% sure you can trust a Rick Barnes coached team.