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  • DuncHen22
    SBR MVP
    • 11-20-09
    • 1079

    #1
    Tracking New System (80% in 1st week)
    Just started tracking a new system. I probably won't actually play these until next year because I want a good sample size. I may play with some monopoly money, or a small amount of money later down the road, but that's it. Just remember this is for tracking purposes only for now.

    I started tracking these 12/11/10, 8 days ago. There are 3 systems (I'll call them "tiers") I'm following because I'm not yet sure which will be the most profitable (if any).

    Tier 1: 12-3 (80%) +8.7 units
    Tier 2: 14-4 (78%) +9.6 units
    Tier 3: 17-8 (68%) +8.2 units

    Here are my previous plays:


    The bolded plays are the ones added on top of the previous tier.

    I'm still worried I'll see a regression toward the mean here but we'll just track and see.
  • DuncHen22
    SBR MVP
    • 11-20-09
    • 1079

    #2
    Plays for Sunday:

    Tier 1:
    Montana State -2
    Florida Atlantic -6.5
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    • DuncHen22
      SBR MVP
      • 11-20-09
      • 1079

      #3
      Originally posted by DuncHen22
      Plays for Sunday:

      Tier 1:
      Montana State -2 LOSS
      Florida Atlantic -6.5LOSS
      Man, who didn't see that coming?

      Ah well. I told myself I'd stick with the tracking until this hit 50% or close to it. So we'll keep it going for now.

      Tier 1: 12-5 +6.5 units
      Tier 2: 14-6 +7.4 units
      Tier 3: 17-10 +6.0 units
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      • DuncHen22
        SBR MVP
        • 11-20-09
        • 1079

        #4
        12/20/10

        tier 1:
        Valpo -8.5
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        • Aussiecapper101
          SBR MVP
          • 09-04-10
          • 2220

          #5
          GL.. hope it works out for you I'll be keeping an eye on it
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          • Hanger
            SBR MVP
            • 01-25-09
            • 2115

            #6
            Interesting......
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            • DuncHen22
              SBR MVP
              • 11-20-09
              • 1079

              #7
              Working on all the games today but I wanted to get the first play out before the game started:

              Rice -8 (Tier 1)
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              • DuncHen22
                SBR MVP
                • 11-20-09
                • 1079

                #8
                Okay, that didn't take as long as I thought. Here are all of my plays today. I'm guessing this day will make or break my system. If today is absolutely pathetic (i.e., <40%) I'll just shut up and stop.

                Tier 1:
                Rice -8
                Miami (FL) -5.5
                E. Illinois +2
                Cincy -7.5
                Austin Peay -2
                NM State -8

                Tier 2:
                Arkansas LR +5

                Tier 3:
                St. Francis +9
                UNLV +4.5

                Remember, each tier contains the plays from the previous tiers, it's just that Tier 1 is more selective than Tier 2, which is more selective than Tier 3. BOL!
                Last edited by DuncHen22; 12-21-10, 02:36 PM.
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                • zebo1337
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 11-15-10
                  • 436

                  #9
                  Taking UNLV and Miami FL, BOL to you my friend!
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                  • zebo1337
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 11-15-10
                    • 436

                    #10
                    BAcked out like a girl and taking Kansas st for the bounce back. =(
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                    • DuncHen22
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-20-09
                      • 1079

                      #11
                      Originally posted by zebo1337
                      BAcked out like a girl and taking Kansas st for the bounce back. =(

                      Haha! No worries. BOL to ya!
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                      • Aussiecapper101
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-04-10
                        • 2220

                        #12
                        Looks like they went alright would like to see them posted again
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                        • DuncHen22
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-20-09
                          • 1079

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Aussiecapper101
                          Looks like they went alright would like to see them posted again
                          Thanks! Yeah, it was decent. Sorry about the weird timing on getting plays up here though. Holidays are just difficult. I'm not too worried as I'm only tracking these for now. But after the holidays I'll get on a better schedule and put more time and effort into it.

                          Yesterday's results:
                          Tier 1: 3-3 -0.3 units
                          Tier 2: 3-4 -1.4 units
                          Tier 3: 5-4 +0.6 units

                          Overall:
                          Tier 1: 15-9 +5.1 units
                          Tier 2: 17-11 +4.9 units
                          Tier 3: 22-15 +5.5 units
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                          • DuncHen22
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-20-09
                            • 1079

                            #14
                            Today's plays:

                            Tier 1:
                            St Louis -1
                            UCF -3.5
                            Bradley +1
                            North Colorado -5

                            Tier 2
                            Georgia Southern +5.5

                            Tier 3
                            East Carolina +3.5

                            I know St. Louis already happened and I missed it, but like I've said I'm only tracking these right now, so I'm not too concerned about posting plays that have already happened. Even if they lost I would have counted it, since cheating would only be hurting myself.

                            BOL!
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                            • Joe Sharp
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-01-09
                              • 3011

                              #15
                              This doesn't really help anyone unless they know how/why you select the plays....
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                              • DuncHen22
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-20-09
                                • 1079

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Joe Sharp
                                This doesn't really help anyone unless they know how/why you select the plays....

                                Sorry, I thought I mentioned it. I've been a little stressed lately so forgive my absent-mindedness.

                                I use Ken Pomeroy's predictions and compare them to the given spreads. Then I only select games where the spread is less than 10 and the the difference between KP and the spread is 2 or more.

                                For Tier 1 plays: I only play favorites (as predicted by KP).
                                For Tier 2 plays: Include all tier 1 plays plus home underdogs.
                                For Tier 3 plays: Include all tier 1 and 2 plays plus away underdogs.

                                That's basically it. I'm also constantly looking for other factors to either add to or subtract from. For example, a 2pt differential between KP and actual may be too low, but I want to just follow it right now (2pt diff plays are 8-2 in tier 3 thus far though).

                                Although I realize now, tier 2 and 3 plays may be a bit mixed up at the moment since there are neutral court tournaments going on. I'll have to go back and double check those in a little bit to make sure I've gotten it right.
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                                • goblinburner
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-28-10
                                  • 621

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DuncHen22
                                  Sorry, I thought I mentioned it. I've been a little stressed lately so forgive my absent-mindedness.

                                  I use Ken Pomeroy's predictions and compare them to the given spreads. Then I only select games where the spread is less than 10 and the the difference between KP and the spread is 2 or more.

                                  For Tier 1 plays: I only play favorites (as predicted by KP).
                                  For Tier 2 plays: Include all tier 1 plays plus home underdogs.
                                  For Tier 3 plays: Include all tier 1 and 2 plays plus away underdogs.

                                  That's basically it. I'm also constantly looking for other factors to either add to or subtract from. For example, a 2pt differential between KP and actual may be too low, but I want to just follow it right now (2pt diff plays are 8-2 in tier 3 thus far though).

                                  Although I realize now, tier 2 and 3 plays may be a bit mixed up at the moment since there are neutral court tournaments going on. I'll have to go back and double check those in a little bit to make sure I've gotten it right.
                                  good stuff man keep it posting
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                                  • DuncHen22
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-20-09
                                    • 1079

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DuncHen22
                                    Today's plays:

                                    Tier 1:
                                    St Louis -1 WIN
                                    UCF -3.5WIN
                                    Bradley +1WIN
                                    North Colorado -5 LOSS

                                    Tier 2
                                    Georgia Southern +5.5 WIN

                                    Tier 3
                                    East Carolina +3.5 WIN
                                    Tier 1: 3-1 +1.9 units
                                    Tier 2: 4-1 +2.9 units
                                    Tier 3: 5-1 +3.9 units

                                    Overall:
                                    Tier 1: 18-10 +7.0 units
                                    Tier 2: 21-12 +7.8 units
                                    Tier 3: 27-16 +9.4 units

                                    Great day today! So far it looks like Tier 3 is the best, even though it has a worse %. We'll keep on tracking though.
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                                    • PP
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-27-10
                                      • 816

                                      #19
                                      Hmm very interesting, a little different than the other KenPom system on here that EaglesPhan is doing, which is hitting at a 53.4% win rate. This ones def got a lot more games, I will def keep posted to this thread, nice work Dunc
                                      Last edited by PP; 12-23-10, 01:57 AM.
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                                      • Blue_Chips
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 08-20-10
                                        • 1775

                                        #20
                                        Good job! Good luck tomorrow!
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                                        • Aussiecapper101
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-04-10
                                          • 2220

                                          #21
                                          didnt take any but good stuff
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                                          • DuncHen22
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-20-09
                                            • 1079

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Aussiecapper101
                                            didnt take any but good stuff
                                            That's alright, I'm not actually playing these yet either. Thanks though!

                                            Lines are starting to come in but I'm traveling today so I'll get as many as I can and anything I miss I'll just have to look up after the games.

                                            Tier 1:
                                            East Tennessee State +1
                                            Miami FL -7.5
                                            Rice +3
                                            Last edited by DuncHen22; 12-23-10, 11:02 AM.
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                                            • DuncHen22
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-20-09
                                              • 1079

                                              #23
                                              Tier 2:
                                              San Fran +5.5
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                                              • DuncHen22
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-20-09
                                                • 1079

                                                #24
                                                Tier 3:
                                                St Louis +6
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                                                • DuncHen22
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-20-09
                                                  • 1079

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by DuncHen22
                                                  Tier 1:
                                                  East Tennessee State +1 LOSS
                                                  Miami FL -7.5WIN
                                                  Rice +3WIN
                                                  Originally posted by DuncHen22
                                                  Tier 2:
                                                  San Fran +5.5WIN
                                                  Originally posted by DuncHen22
                                                  Tier 3:
                                                  St Louis +6LOSS

                                                  Tier 1: 2-1 +0.9 units
                                                  Tier 2: 3-1 +1.9 units
                                                  Tier 3: 3-2 +0.8 units

                                                  Another good day! Hopefully I can keep things rolling over the holidays, although it'll be tricky tracking these while I'm traveling.

                                                  Overall:
                                                  T1: 20-11 (65%) +7.9 UNITS
                                                  T2: 24-13 (65%) +9.7 UNITS
                                                  T3: 30-18 (63%) +10.2 UNITS
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                                                  • southpaw74
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 12-21-09
                                                    • 7104

                                                    #26
                                                    Thanks dunc! Have a great Christmas
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                                                    • DuncHen22
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-20-09
                                                      • 1079

                                                      #27
                                                      KP doesn't have any games listed today so we'll see you on the 26th!
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                                                      • DuncHen22
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-20-09
                                                        • 1079

                                                        #28
                                                        Apparently KP DID have games for yesterday and today. He just put them up later and I didn't check again.

                                                        12/24

                                                        Tier 2:
                                                        Col St +5.5 WIN
                                                        Texas St +8 PUSH

                                                        Tier 2 (and 3)
                                                        1-0-1 +1.0 UNITS

                                                        Overall:
                                                        T1: 20-11 (65%) +7.9 UNITS
                                                        T2: 25-13 (66%) +10.7 UNITS
                                                        T3: 31-18 (63%) +11.2 UNITS

                                                        12/25

                                                        Tier 1:
                                                        Miss St +1.5
                                                        Baylor -2.5


                                                        Have a Merry Christmas!!
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                                                        • southie
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 05-25-08
                                                          • 377

                                                          #29
                                                          gl on this
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                                                          • DukeJohn
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-29-07
                                                            • 1779

                                                            #30
                                                            Good luck, seems a little hard to test without being able to back test it for a few years before. Hope you are able to stick with it for a couple of years and it works out for ya

                                                            BoL,

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                                                            • DuncHen22
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-20-09
                                                              • 1079

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by DukeJohn
                                                              Good luck, seems a little hard to test without being able to back test it for a few years before. Hope you are able to stick with it for a couple of years and it works out for ya

                                                              BoL,

                                                              Yeah that's kinda what I plan on doing. I feel if it works out for the rest of this year that's a pretty solid test. I trust KP's system and have looked at the stats on his success rate so I feel like that has validity on it's own. If I actually played it next year, though, I'd be very cautious.

                                                              Anyway, 0-2 today, so add 2 losses and subract 2.2 units from the previous records. That's okay, though. Still 9-6 in the last 15 games.
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                                                              • DuncHen22
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-20-09
                                                                • 1079

                                                                #32
                                                                12/27

                                                                Tier 1:
                                                                Pitt -7.5
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                                                                • DuncHen22
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-20-09
                                                                  • 1079

                                                                  #33
                                                                  PITT was a winner yesterday!

                                                                  Not a whole lot going on today, although a bunch of tier 3's popped up for some reason.

                                                                  12/28

                                                                  Tier 1:
                                                                  Colorado St -4

                                                                  Tier 3:
                                                                  Kent State +4
                                                                  UC-Davis +3
                                                                  Siena +4
                                                                  Ball State +6
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                                                                  • DuncHen22
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-20-09
                                                                    • 1079

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Records right now are:

                                                                    T1: 21-13 (62%) +6.7 units
                                                                    T2: 26-15 (63%) +9.5 units
                                                                    T3: 32-20 (62%) +10 units
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                                                                    • donnydoucher
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 11-04-10
                                                                      • 206

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I like the system
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