Picked Duke at 15-1 before the tourny, NEED ADVICE.

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  • Prairie Fire
    SBR Rookie
    • 10-24-09
    • 43

    #1
    Picked Duke at 15-1 before the tourny, NEED ADVICE.
    Before the tournament began I made a $10 play on Duke with 15-1 odds to win the whole shabang. Should I continue to ride the play or put a $50 play on Butler's ML, +300. If I make the play on Butler, I have the potential to win either $140 or $95. What do you guys think??
  • Ralphie1412
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-29-08
    • 13963

    #2
    Its ten bucks.....you have duke who is -300+ at +1500. I think u got 150 bucks coming.
    "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
    Goat Milk
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    • julio_cat
      SBR MVP
      • 10-05-09
      • 1208

      #3
      I suggest, keep your play alive as high as possible, just eliminate the chance of losing money.
      Put another $10 on butler and hope for Duke to win it all for a $140 profit. Worst scenario is winning $20
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      • Rio DiNero
        SBR MVP
        • 11-03-08
        • 2010

        #4
        I would hedge it with Butler+7.5 that way you have a chance to win both.
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        • MaxEMillion
          SBR Sharp
          • 08-31-09
          • 495

          #5
          for starters I would never ever listen to Ralphie. I am in a similar situation in I got them at 20-1 for 5$. It is the first and only long term future bet I have ever made. I am riding it out and I think I may put some real cash on Duke -7.5.
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          • filter15
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-05-09
            • 549

            #6
            I say I agree
            eliminate the chance of losing money take the 100 bucks
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            • MJT1212
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-16-09
              • 5124

              #7
              Take Butler +7.5 for 50
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              • CashMoney27
                SBR Sharp
                • 03-15-10
                • 253

                #8
                i think duke will win this one but just to be safe id take butler +7.5 for 10$$
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                • iceminers26
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-13-08
                  • 15600

                  #9
                  Again it comes down to how much you usually wager per play, if you're a $5 bettor bettor per and have the chance to guarantee yourself at least $100 then you may want to hedge. If you're a $50 or up per play bettor, there is not much value in hedging when you're getting over a (-300) favorite at +1500. Personally, I like Butler in this game on the points and also took a shot on them on the ML as well because it has great value and I honestly think they have a shot even though not many others feel the same. If it was me and with your wager figures, I would throw $75 on Butler +7.5 and try to find a book offering it at even money, therefore you have the possibility of winning a total of $225 if Duke wins SU and Butler covers, winning $75 if Duke wins SU and covers ATS, and $65 if Butler wins SU. Again, I like Butler in this game but if you really like Duke, you can always let your original $10 play ride for the possibility of a $150 return. Good luck with whatever you decide and I hope you come out a winner because that was a solid future play by you.
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                  • Snowball
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 11-15-09
                    • 30058

                    #10
                    must have been before the bracket was out. i don't remember Duke paying 15-1 unless it was still during the regular season. kind of curious when you made this bet...
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                    • jlgarciaiii22
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-14-08
                      • 1792

                      #11
                      Ride it out... Duke Wins!
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                      • Prairie Fire
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 10-24-09
                        • 43

                        #12
                        First, thanks to the solid advice, especially iceminer. I think I may take Butler +7.5, with the hopes of chasing in on both. Thanks again guys.
                        Second, I took the bet about two-three weeks before the tournament began, odds came from scoresandodds.com
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                        • peterw111
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 01-05-10
                          • 422

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Snowball
                          must have been before the bracket was out. i don't remember Duke paying 15-1 unless it was still during the regular season. kind of curious when you made this bet...
                          WHO REALLY CARES WHEN THE BET WAS PLACED

                          Why don't you just come out and say YOU DON'T BELIEVE HIM

                          Its was only a $10 bet @15/1. F##K ME some people are really F***ED.

                          Anyway if it was me I would take Butler +7.5 pt for $10 and you could win both if its close scoring game.
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                          • Snowball
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 11-15-09
                            • 30058

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Prairie Fire
                            Second, I took the bet about two-three weeks before the tournament began, odds came from scoresandodds.com
                            thanks, Prarie. I thought it had to be a at least a couple weeks before the bracket was out. I was just curious.

                            and no, Peter, I wasn't calling him a liar.
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                            • JuicedUp
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-20-10
                              • 3396

                              #15
                              grab your balls and ride it out!
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                              • nobull
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-24-09
                                • 830

                                #16
                                blue devils have so many weapons its not even funny. having said that i'm taking the underdog and the points. that looks like a trap line. the line should be way higher.
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                                • Bigcheez
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 12-02-09
                                  • 399

                                  #17
                                  Just ride it out.
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                                  • will2survive
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-26-09
                                    • 8099

                                    #18
                                    ride duke
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                                    • ericthegangster
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 1764

                                      #19
                                      i would hedge it with a small ML bet on butler. nice call though sir
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                                      • knightof7
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 01-14-10
                                        • 396

                                        #20
                                        I'll hedge for guaranteed cash everytime.
                                        wont advice how much to hedge since I dont know if you're greedy or not.
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                                        • spongerat
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-01-08
                                          • 2023

                                          #21
                                          ride it out, its just for fun and not huge money
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                                          • dodger33
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-14-09
                                            • 3962

                                            #22
                                            10-20 butler ml
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                                            • JayTrotter
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 03-27-10
                                              • 320

                                              #23
                                              I would say that you should put 150 dollars on butler money line if you really are interested in the biggest bang for your buck... you would have a 30% chance of winning 45 to 1

                                              this way you are risking 10 dollars to win 450.... 45 to 1 is better than 15 to 1....

                                              If you think this game is 50/50

                                              77 on Butler +7.5 that way, 10 dollars and u are winning 220 or winning 80.

                                              When I bet on MNF underdogs ML, I always hedge at half, and I am always glad i did... buffalo, looking at you...
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                                              • goblue12
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-08-09
                                                • 1316

                                                #24
                                                Let it ride.

                                                You've got a +1500 bet on a favorite.

                                                Had Duke been an underdog in this spot, I'd consider hedging.
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                                                • suicidekings
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-23-09
                                                  • 9962

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by spongerat
                                                  ride it out, its just for fun and not huge money
                                                  Big or small, guaranteed money is fun.

                                                  Optimal solution is to wager $40 on the Butler ML (+300)

                                                  Butler: $40 * (+300) - $10 (future wager) = $120 - $10 future = $110 profit
                                                  Duke: $10 * (+1500) - $40 (Butler ML) = $150 - $40 ML wager = $110 profit

                                                  You guarantee yourself a return of $110 in profit, which is 73% of what you'd get if Duke wins, stress-free. Take the hedged money and enjoy the game...
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                                                  • suicidekings
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-23-09
                                                    • 9962

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by goblue12
                                                    Let it ride.

                                                    You've got a +1500 bet on a favorite.

                                                    Had Duke been an underdog in this spot, I'd consider hedging.
                                                    This makes no sense. He can take both sides as big dogs... It's an ideal hedging situation.
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                                                    • OmgUrMom
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 02-07-10
                                                      • 8481

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by iceminers26
                                                      Again it comes down to how much you usually wager per play, if you're a $5 bettor bettor per and have the chance to guarantee yourself at least $100 then you may want to hedge. If you're a $50 or up per play bettor, there is not much value in hedging when you're getting over a (-300) favorite at +1500. Personally, I like Butler in this game on the points and also took a shot on them on the ML as well because it has great value and I honestly think they have a shot even though not many others feel the same. If it was me and with your wager figures, I would throw $75 on Butler +7.5 and try to find a book offering it at even money, therefore you have the possibility of winning a total of $225 if Duke wins SU and Butler covers, winning $75 if Duke wins SU and covers ATS, and $65 if Butler wins SU. Again, I like Butler in this game but if you really like Duke, you can always let your original $10 play ride for the possibility of a $150 return. Good luck with whatever you decide and I hope you come out a winner because that was a solid future play by you.
                                                      good post iceminer.

                                                      If you typically bet even $25+ per game there is really no reason to hedge here unless you actually think Butler +300 is a good bet, if that is the case by all means do so.

                                                      The only reason you should hedge is if you are scared of the risk involved, in other words $150 would be a large percentage of your bankroll.
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                                                      • OmgUrMom
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 02-07-10
                                                        • 8481

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                        Big or small, guaranteed money is fun.

                                                        Optimal solution is to wager $40 on the Butler ML (+300)

                                                        Butler: $40 * (+300) - $10 (future wager) = $120 - $10 future = $110 profit
                                                        Duke: $10 * (+1500) - $40 (Butler ML) = $150 - $40 ML wager = $110 profit

                                                        You guarantee yourself a return of $110 in profit, which is 73% of what you'd get if Duke wins, stress-free. Take the hedged money and enjoy the game...
                                                        if $150 isn't a big bet for you then there is no reason to hedge this unless you think Butler +300 is a good play, if you hedge it it when $150 isn't a lot to you and you don't think butler +300 is a good play then you are just paying the bookies vig.
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                                                        • terpkeg
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-26-09
                                                          • 2364

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by iceminers26
                                                          Again it comes down to how much you usually wager per play, if you're a $5 bettor bettor per and have the chance to guarantee yourself at least $100 then you may want to hedge. If you're a $50 or up per play bettor, there is not much value in hedging when you're getting over a (-300) favorite at +1500. Personally, I like Butler in this game on the points and also took a shot on them on the ML as well because it has great value and I honestly think they have a shot even though not many others feel the same. If it was me and with your wager figures, I would throw $75 on Butler +7.5 and try to find a book offering it at even money, therefore you have the possibility of winning a total of $225 if Duke wins SU and Butler covers, winning $75 if Duke wins SU and covers ATS, and $65 if Butler wins SU. Again, I like Butler in this game but if you really like Duke, you can always let your original $10 play ride for the possibility of a $150 return. Good luck with whatever you decide and I hope you come out a winner because that was a solid future play by you.

                                                          i think this is right on
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                                                          • Kustac
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 10-15-09
                                                            • 550

                                                            #30
                                                            nice spot to be in and nice call on catching them back at 15-1
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