What if I teased both sides of the MSU/Butler game??

[HoulihansTX]

Pays +103

I expect this game to go down to the last possession/shot. Every game MSU has played has gone down to the bitter end. Butler is a grind it out teams also.



Thoughts?

[cubswin]

I hope this is a joke

[HoulihansTX]

I hope this is a joke

No. What funny though?

I've done this in football, but just curious about what other think.

Cubswin-- thinks its a Joke

any other opinions?

[Kustac]

I don't think this would work over the long term

[HoulihansTX]

I don't think this would work over the long term

Understood, but tomorrows game?

Or are you trying to tell me this game is one of the ultimate negative expectation bets?

I understand that parlays/ teasers are just adding risk. Though I feel we have a game that will go down to the last possession.

[KC]

Just bet Butler..

[skrtelfan]

Terrible, terrible, terrible play. Basketball teasers are bad enough, let alone teasing opposite sides of the same game.

[Vince Lombardi]

It could happen. LOL. Much stranger shit has happened this tournament for sure. Not even close. Good Luck with your play. I too think it will go down to the last possession.

[IrishTim]

This is a brilliant way to lose money.

[Kustac]

Understood, but tomorrows game?

Or are you trying to tell me this game is one of the ultimate negative expectation bets?

I understand that parlays/ teasers are just adding risk. Though I feel we have a game that will go down to the last possession.

if your making this bet based on your theory that we are going to see a very close game then by all means if you want to bet that general idea take Mich St at the +5 1/2 which is much better than a +3 1/2 in a close game and consider putting it with another play outside of this game ... but here might be a better idea aren't their books that let you bet "Butler wins by 1-4 4/1" and "Mich St wins by 1-4 5/1", so if you did this you'd be getting a better bet

[HoulihansTX]

This is a brilliant way to lose money.

Understood

if your making this bet based on your theory that we are going to see a very close game then by all means if you want to bet that general idea take Mich St at the +5 1/2 which is much better than a +3 1/2 in a close game and consider putting it with another play outside of this game ... but here might be a better idea aren't their books that let you bet "Butler wins by 1-4 4/1" and "Mich St wins by 1-4 5/1", so if you did this you'd be getting a better bet

I play at 5Dimes, but live in Vegas. I will check out the Hilton, and see if they offer your last two suggestions.

[excel]

Is this a horrible idea? I won this money in a freeroll and need to roll it over 4x as fast as possible. Please lemme know your thoughts.

[excel]

P.S this would be the first time I've ever bet anything on sports. im a newbie... lol

[iceminers26]

I do this all the time with 3 team, 10 point teasers in football, I'll do both sides and the total all in the same game. I don't know if offshore books let you do this, I know my local does, and don't see why others wouldn't invite this kind of action. I just think there are certain games where you know its going to be tight and if you have a strong play on the total as well, its a good play.

Never did it with hoops because you only get 4 points and with the potential fouling at the end, it would be hard to do IMO but it could happen.

[knightof7]

The best way to guarantee cash a bonus is hedging.

However it only works if you have money to hedge in another book and you're willing to give up some juice.

Back on the topic, is there any book offers margin of victory prop for NCAA games? I guess betting both sides on that may payout better than +103 for the same outcome.

[KingKolzig]

I do this all the time with 3 team, 10 point teasers in football, I'll do both sides and the total all in the same game. I don't know if offshore books let you do this, I know my local does, and don't see why others wouldn't invite this kind of action. I just think there are certain games where you know its going to be tight and if you have a strong play on the total as well, its a good play.

Never did it with hoops because you only get 4 points and with the potential fouling at the end, it would be hard to do IMO but it could happen.

yep i do this in super-teasers all the time. 10-pt bball ones. need to take 4 teams so ill take 2 12.5 pt favs and tease them down to 2.5, and then ill take the opposite +12.5 dogs and tease them up to +22.5.............it works............but in this case its a dumb dumb idea

[HoulihansTX]

Okay thanks for the feedback. I understand this was a bad idea, square, good way to lose, Joke, so on so forth.

Will not be making this wager.

[PAULYPOKER]

No. What funny though? I've done this in football, but just curious about what other think. Cubswin-- thinks its a Joke any other opinions?

Yes this works fine in football but basketball teasers are worthless however I see what you are getting at in this particular game the odds a very good for it to be decided by 4 points or less but if you ask me the odds of this game to go under the total are greater so this would be the best way to tease it with who you think will win the game

[3PtShooter]

ask fishhead

[Soxsfan9]

I like it Hou. The fact that both teams are going to grind out the game and play it in the half court, to go with the fact that MSU has won 4 games by a total of 13 points and Butler has let teams make it close down the stretch in their last two games, I say you have a very good shot at cashing! BOL

[KingKolzig]

Okay thanks for the feedback. I understand this was a bad idea, square, good way to lose, Joke, so on so forth.

Will not be making this wager.

yeah its a total hunch bet.

this is from thegreek:

Michigan state wins by 1-3 pts +300
Butler wins by 1-3 pts +300 (so maybe 1-5 pts +225)

and those are the odds given, not the actual chances that it lands there. but not way off, just not worth it

[KingKolzig]

if they made a line that was +100 (both ways) it would be a prop:

Game decided by 6 pts or less (yes/no)

[HoulihansTX]

Pays +103 I expect this game to go down to the last possession/shot. Every game MSU has played has gone down to the bitter end. Butler is a grind it out teams also. Thoughts?

This looks like gold.

WOW

[The Seer]

woulda won easily

[PAULYPOKER]

Yes this works fine in football but basketball teasers are worthless however I see what you are getting at in this particular game the odds a very good for it to be decided by 4 points or less but if you ask me the odds of this game to go under the total are greater so this would be the best way to tease it with who you think will win the game

So was my advice

[big joe 1212]

good call!

[HoulihansTX]

So was my advice

Thanks for that also, but Every I PM'ed replied that This was a bad idea.

Next time I will make, and lose money on my own hunches. I still appreciate everyone responding though. Win some you lose some.

This one I just passed on, and I had it pegged from the beginning

[hoopster42]

1 gm sample = winner

100 gm sample = less than 53-47 which means you lose long term

[PAULYPOKER]

Thanks for that also, but Every I PM'ed replied that This was a bad idea. Next time I will make, and lose money on my own hunches. I still appreciate everyone responding though. Win some you lose some. This one I just passed on, and I had it pegged from the beginning

After all there is no such thing as a guaranteed win so go with what you feel, asking for advice will always ruin you

[Kustac]

1 gm sample = winner

100 gm sample = less than 53-47 which means you lose long term

I have to agree with this, but still tough break on this ONE game Houlihans, hate that for you man

[Mr. Peepers]

nice call...very sick

[IrishTim]

1 gm sample = winner

100 gm sample = less than 53-47 which means you lose long term

Someone gets it.

[Iwinyourmoney]

If he gets it at +103 everytime he can go 50/50 and be ahead....

[Jive]

This wasn't a system bet or pattern idea by Houli; it was one bet for one game. The fact that it wouldn't work over the long haul is totally irrelevant.

Once again people jump in telling someone how stupid a bet would be instead of letting the bankroll be the judge. Betting this way in the Nets/Wizards game tonight might be an awful idea, but yesterday it was a good play. The bet was for one game (game A) on one day, so the fact that it would be a loser if bet 100 times over games B, C, D, etc, means nothing.

[LT Profits]

It would have been a terrible play, fact that this game won is irrelevant.

+103 is a terrible price for a 9-point middle in basketball.