mich st final 4 run is so weak/flukey

ronjon619 · 03-29-10, 01:40 PM

those are the breaks you need.....coaches talking about catching breaks all the time.

paco · 03-29-10, 01:44 PM

Just shows theyvperform well in the clutch

hoopster42 · 03-29-10, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by ronjon619

those are the breaks you need.....coaches talking about catching breaks all the time.

caught major breaks in 3 of the 4 gms they played in, and 2 of the 3 gms they caught those breaks in were vs 12 seed and 6 seed. not good.

seaborneq · 03-29-10, 02:04 PM

Survive and Advance. I think that is what they call it.

seaborneq · 03-29-10, 02:12 PM

Dean Smith has two championships thanks to Fred Brown and Chris Webber, two nonetheless.

No coincidences · 03-29-10, 02:14 PM

dimon · 03-29-10, 02:44 PM

in close games and the line says the Butler game will be really close...Mich St will WIN...and the reason is Tom Izzo...are you guys serious, he take his team to Final Four more than anyone last 10 years and knows how to win at the end...Mich St will win a close game ONCE again

thebestthereis · 03-29-10, 02:59 PM

yes michigan state sucks. they are lucky and have never won anything before and their coach sucks too i forgot. they should have been the 64th seed i think or maybe not made the tourney. even if they win it all they still suck and are lucky and flukey. i make them a 23 point dog to butler. i wish them luck.

seaborneq · 03-29-10, 03:03 PM

Does any remember who Jimmy V's Wolfpack beat on their way to defeating Phi Slamma Jamma? Didn't think so. It doesn't matter how you get there. Just win and nobody will remember anything but victory.

BettingWizard · 03-29-10, 03:09 PM

just wait for 2nd half......Butler has covered 13 straight 2nd halves

jagaf22 · 03-29-10, 03:09 PM

The WILL to win! The HEART of a champion. I refuse to bet against Tom Izzo coached teams come March.

Brock Landers · 03-29-10, 03:11 PM

Same story for Butler, should have lost 3 different games, but manged to win.

hoopster42 · 03-29-10, 03:12 PM

very fortunate that 1 seed kansas shit the bed and 2 seed ohio st lost a heartbreaker, not to mention 3 seed g'town who was exhausted and overlooked 14 seed ohio. last yr, mich st beat 1 seed l'ville and 1 seed uconn and i give them all the credit for that (even though a few days ago i made excuses). those were very impressive wins. THIS YR it's been flukey and now they get 5-seed butler?

a championship gm berth would include a run w/wins over: 12 seed, 9 seed, 4 seed, 6 seed, 5 seed.

hmmmmmmmm..........wake up and smell the coffee..........weakest/easiest run ive ever seen to a final 4, and would be the weakest/easiest run ever to a championship gm SHOULD they beat butler

p.s. brock - butler beat the crap out of 12-seed utep who MANY considered a very strong, dangerous 12 seed who had l'ville transfer caracter........then beat 13 seed murray st who beat 4 seed vandy, then handled 1 seed syracuse and 2 seed kansas st. what tournament are you watching, Sir?

BigMama · 03-29-10, 03:15 PM

good luck

dknight734 · 03-29-10, 03:15 PM

i agree but it doesn't matter if u win by an inch or a mile, a win is a win

blueghost · 03-29-10, 03:22 PM

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ExposingLines247 · 03-29-10, 03:28 PM

every teams path is different to even start this thread is dumb, coaching, heart , desire and will sorry but sparty is here again

dimon · 03-29-10, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by jagaf22

The WILL to win! The HEART of a champion. I refuse to bet against Tom Izzo coached teams come March.

can't agree more I was in Lansing before and was lucky to be at Izzo's practices, and visited the lockerroom after games...he is a Great coach...and even with "average" players can achive a lot...in college basketball I honor Izzo and retired coach Dale Brown...can't wait to see the game

No coincidences · 03-29-10, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by hoopster42

very fortunate that 1 seed kansas shit the bed and 2 seed ohio st lost a heartbreaker, not to mention 3 seed g'town who was exhausted and overlooked 14 seed ohio. last yr, mich st beat 1 seed l'ville and 1 seed uconn and i give them all the credit for that (even though a few days ago i made excuses). those were very impressive wins. THIS YR it's been flukey and now they get 5-seed butler?

a championship gm berth would include a run w/wins over: 12 seed, 9 seed, 4 seed, 6 seed, 5 seed.

hmmmmmmmm..........wake up and smell the coffee..........weakest/easiest run ive ever seen to a final 4, and would be the weakest/easiest run ever to a championship gm SHOULD they beat butler

p.s. brock - butler beat the crap out of 12-seed utep who MANY considered a very strong, dangerous 12 seed who had l'ville transfer caracter........then beat 13 seed murray st who beat 4 seed vandy, then handled 1 seed syracuse and 2 seed kansas st. what tournament are you watching, Sir?

How old are you? 12?

"Weakest/easiest run I've ever seen to a Final Four"?

hoopster42 · 03-29-10, 09:01 PM

ive watched every ncaa tourney run to the final 4 since '85

DaColts · 03-29-10, 09:08 PM

Buttler will beat them in Indy with ease

TheAccountant · 03-29-10, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by DaColts

Buttler will beat them in Indy with ease

I don't think anything about this game will be easy. Comes down to the wire one way or another.

LT Profits · 03-29-10, 09:27 PM

Izzo may single-handedly be responsible for the three narrow wins, but Butler playing in their own backyard should be too much to overcome. Only red flag is the line of Butler only -1 or -1.5, I made this game Butler -4.

gshock1 · 03-29-10, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Izzo may single-handedly be responsible for the three narrow wins, but Butler playing in their own backyard should be too much to overcome. Only red flag is the line of Butler only -1 or -1.5, I made this game Butler -4.

What did you cap Duke and WV at?

jazz · 03-29-10, 09:38 PM

They made plays when it counted the most.

LT Profits · 03-29-10, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by gshock1

What did you cap Duke and WV at?

West Virginia -1.5, but I knew that would be off because Duke is such a public team. I find the Butler line more surprising.

HOT WINGS · 03-29-10, 09:47 PM

Duke by far had the "easiest" road to final 4 this year hands down. That region was a f*cking joke. Someone from Duke went to NCAA headquarters and gave rim jobs around the table. MSU got shafted with a 5 seed and by far had the toughest region and anything but an easy road. MSU win's close games because of Izzo. None of the teams left can or will blow out MSU. There is no loaded UNC team this year(Kentucky lost). MSU will win a close game against Butler and then WV. 10 year reunion of last championship they won in Indy as well.

gshock1 · 03-29-10, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by HOT WINGS

Duke by far had the "easiest" road to final 4 this year hands down. That region was a f*cking joke. Someone from Duke went to NCAA headquarters and gave rim jobs around the table. MSU got shafted with a 5 seed and by far had the toughest region and anything but an easy road. MSU win's close games because of Izzo. None of the teams left can or will blow out MSU. There is no loaded UNC team this year(Kentucky lost). MSU will win a close game against Butler and then WV. 10 year reunion of last championship they won in Indy as well.

I would agree Duke had the easiest schedule. They put a fading team as a 2 seed, a inexperienced Baylor at 3 and Purdue minus its big gun at 3. Mich St bracket by far was the toughest.

JayTrotter · 03-29-10, 09:55 PM

The Butler/MSU line looks eerily like deja vu.... reminds me of the good ole days, when Northern Iowa was favored by about a bucket, over this same team...

LT Profits · 03-29-10, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by JayTrotter

The Butler/MSU line looks eerily like deja vu.... reminds me of the good ole days, when Northern Iowa was favored by about a bucket, over this same team...

But Butler is much better than Northern Iowa, and they are virtually at home. The line does not make sense, unless oddsmakers anticipate the public will back the power conference team regardless, even though Butler just beat two better teams than MSU and have won 24 straight.

nitty48 · 03-29-10, 10:02 PM

michigan state did win all those games tho in the end it doesnt matter how. id take butler tho to win the matchup

lefty357 · 03-29-10, 10:18 PM

don't go against Izzo

BillyCostigan · 03-29-10, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by ExposingLines247

every teams path is different to even start this thread is dumb, coaching, heart , desire and will sorry but sparty is here again

Am I only one that thinks "Sparty" is the dumbest ****ing name in college sports?

hoopster42 · 03-29-10, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by HOT WINGS

Duke by far had the "easiest" road to final 4 this year hands down. That region was a f*cking joke. Someone from Duke went to NCAA headquarters and gave rim jobs around the table. MSU got shafted with a 5 seed and by far had the toughest region and anything but an easy road. MSU win's close games because of Izzo. None of the teams left can or will blow out MSU. There is no loaded UNC team this year(Kentucky lost). MSU will win a close game against Butler and then WV. 10 year reunion of last championship they won in Indy as well.

so duke playing 3 seed baylor, 4 seed purdue, and 8 seed cal, was easier than mich st playing 12 seed new mex st, 9 seed no iowa, 4 seed maryland, and 6 seed tennessee?

sure, mich st WAS in the toughest region when the brackets were announced but then kansas and g'town shit the bed and ohio st lost in a nailbiter to tennessee. that mean the top 3 seeds in the region were GONE by the time mich st wouldve had to play any of them............LUCKY.......EASY........ ..FORTUNATE...........

learn sports please.