I believe this total is WAY OFF --- MICHIGAN STATE 122 ????

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  • nobs
    Restricted User
    • 08-31-09
    • 4216

    #1
    I believe this total is WAY OFF --- MICHIGAN STATE 122 ????
    I believe this total on the Michigan State vs. Northern Iowa Game is way off. We normally only see totals this low with two low paced teams, and you pretty much dont see a number this low in the tournamnet ever.

    I believe that a big reason this number is so low is that Northern Iowa has only given up 55 points per game this year while only scoring 64. But those are some very misleading numbers. I mean I am not trying to take anything away from Northern Iowa, after all they did beat Kansas. But come on, this team plays in the Missouri Valley Conference. Its one thing to hold that conference to 55 PPG but an entirely different thing to hold the Big Ten's best in the 50's.

    The last 5 MVC games, Northern held their opponents 55, 55, 40, 40, and 52. But in the NCAA tourney UNLV got 66 and Kansas got 67. Those were both close games without the fouling at the end that is typical otherwise both those teams would have broken 70.

    The Northern Iowa vs. Kansas game came with a total of 127 or 128 and Northern was able to get out to a big lead and then dictate the tempo of the game, yet it still went over by almost 10 full points. It seems that the linesmakers have not fully adjusted for the fact that Northern Iowa is now facing opponents with far more potent offenses than what they have seen throughout MVC play.

    I am not taking a position on who will win, and I wouldnt be surprised if Northern Iowa continues on. But I will say this, there will be quite a bit more than 122 scored in this game. These Spartans average 73 points per game, and thats against some pretty good defenses in the big Ten. Wisconsin, Purdue, Ohio State, Minnesota. Still the Spartans average well into the 70's.

    The Spartans come in off an 85 point performance against Maryland, and have scored 155 points in 2 tourney games so far. I think Michigan State will want to push the tempo here and not get into the slower style game that Northern Forced its first two opponents into.

    MSU Coach Tom Izzo has been around for a long time and coached in many games and he will have his team ready for this one. The Spartans are not going to be confused or Surprised by the Panthers defnse here. I think that Kalin Lewis, Raymar Morgan, Green and Summers will all get 12 or more points, and Northern also brings 4 guys with double digit scoring averages. So I think we have a great chance of seeing 130 or more here.

    I think another big advantage for the over here is that this far into the tourney teams arent going to just give up. We will likely see a good deal of fouling late in the game, and just that in itself would make it impossible for me to go under a number this low.

    One site I see says that the over is getting 91% of the play here and this is one case where I think the public is right. In fact, like I said I just cant see how anyone could go under this low of a number when there could easily be 20 points scored in the last 2 minutes.

    Good Luck on all plays.
  • iceminers26
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-13-08
    • 15600

    #2
    Originally posted by nobs
    In fact, like I said I just cant see how anyone could go under this low of a number when there could easily be 20 points scored in the last 2 minutes. Good Luck on all plays.
    First off good luck with the play. Personally I am on the under and as you put it with the possibility of 20 points being scored in the final 2 minutes, I don't think there will be that many scored in the final 5 minutes let a lone the final 2 minutes and I really think it shouldn't matter anyways when they're only sitting at around 100 with 2 to play. I think this game will be a defensive battle from start to finish and expect NI to slow it down every chance they get, I know they were pushing a little against Kansas, but I expect them to get back to their old routine in this one against an opponent that will probably have the same game plan.

    Anyways, great write-up and points and I always enjoy reading the other side of a play because it makes for some great discussions. Again, best of luck with the play.
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #3
      55 could easily win this game, hell niu/ku total was only 128 and well yes it went over it was pretty close even with the unusual fast start to the game...took foul shots and craziness in the end to push that total over and yes that is a possibility but im thinking it may be close enough down the stretch you dont see a lot of free throws.....doubt i play it so gl either way
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      • THE PROFIT
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-27-09
        • 17701

        #4
        haven't delved into that one yet. Let me get my secret squirrel decoder ring out & see what I come up with
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        • PAULYPOKER
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 12-06-08
          • 36581

          #5
          And the Swami says under with authority
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          • Chango
            SBR Hustler
            • 03-19-10
            • 84

            #6
            Do you guys think that since Kansas got beat taking it slow that Izzo will try and push the tempo to get NIU out of their comfort zone?
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            • Chi_archie
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-22-08
              • 63172

              #7
              good write up, but I kinda lean the other way
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              • sweethook
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-21-07
                • 12667

                #8
                very good write up , GL
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                • uanl
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-10-09
                  • 825

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chango
                  Do you guys think that since Kansas got beat taking it slow that Izzo will try and push the tempo to get NIU out of their comfort zone?

                  my observation was that kansas had alot of success at the end of the game when they started to press NI (other than that escape NI had and hit the 3 to win it) so i think Izzo might decide to press NI right out of the gate take a lead and slow the game down and limit NI's possessions...i would play the under in this one and on the side i have a lean towards Izzo and the spartans..
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                  • fsugolf
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-17-09
                    • 6194

                    #10
                    Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                    Let me get my secret squirrel decoder ring out & see what I come up with

                    just flip a coin it's easier
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