Anyone like Washington

HoulihansTX · 03-25-10, 02:58 AM

PAULYPOKER · 03-25-10, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

PAULYPOKER · 03-25-10, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by nobs

I just cant make myself believe in West Virginia's basketball team. Sure, West Va is 29-6 and that even includes 8-4 on the road, and yes Deshaun Butler with 17 points a game is a great player. Still, I think the Huskies match up well and will probably win this game tommorow, but just to play it safe I am taking the 4 here. I just think Washington has so many positives that they should be the favorite here, not withstanding their #11 seed. The only thing that you can say negative about the Huskies is that they do give up a lot of points. But most of that is by virtue of playing in the Pac 10 with a lot of run and gun type teams. West Virginia wins their games by playing solid defense, not so much by scoring a lot of points. The Mountaineers score 72 points per game while giving up 63 points per game. They have also held their last 5 opponents in the 50's. What you need to beat the Mountaineers is a good 3 point shooting team, which can shoot over that defense. That is exactly what the Huskies have and thats why I think the Huskies will win. The Huskies shot 34% from behind the 3 point arc this year. The team also brings 3 very dangerous shooters from 3 points. Isiah Thomas hit 33% this year, Quincy Poindexter shot 36.7% and Elston Turner hit for almost 39%. Scott Suggs hit 37%. Its not so much in the percentages as in the fact that Poindexter and Thomas are going to shoot from behind the arc. Its not like these guys are 3 for 10 on the year, they are hitting in the mid 30's while taking lots of shots from back there. So I think the typical defense that West Virginia employs with great success against some Big East schools simply will not work as the Huskies can shoot from way back, and also the Huskies will force an up tempo style here. The Huskies have faced many teams like this during the year. Oregon State, USC and most recently New Mexico were all teams who routiney held opponents to low scoring outputs and in each case, the Huskies were able to hit from outside and force open the defense. The Huskies offense has scored 79+ In each of its last 4 games, all 4 games being against strong competition. They averaged 80 PPG this year scoring 90+ 9 times, and was held to less than 59 points only 1 times all year long. I think the Huskies are also a much more well balanced team here. Thomas, Poindexter, Byan-Amaning, and Overton are all serious threats that the Mountaineers will have to account for. Sure I am not saying that DaSean Butler is all the Mountaineers have, Darryl Jones and Kevin Ebanks will contribute but this is a team that is dependent on Butler. I think The Huskies match up well and are at least as good a team as West Virginia. In fact, I think Washington is a better team and certainly have more stamina and will be able to run and gun if they can force the tempo. West Va is more likely to want to slow it down. I liove the Huskies plus the 4 here and I definitly love the over 141 as well. Good Luck

Thanks to Nobs I know a little more now

PAYTON20 · 03-25-10, 03:21 AM

I'm from Washington and I'm on UW +180 as well as UW +4.5... GL!!!

jagaf22 · 03-25-10, 04:25 AM

Pass no thanks

DukeJohn · 03-25-10, 04:36 AM

In my bracket W. Virginia was not supposed to be here, so I would like Washington to win. However, since WV is here, I have them winning by 2pts, so my pick would be Wash +4. Hopefully though, Washington will win outright and my bracket will continue.

Regul8er · 03-25-10, 07:35 AM

Washington has the ability to win, but what Husky team shows up??

ezmoney · 03-25-10, 07:36 AM

Like WASH + 4, hot team, going for 10 wins in a row!

EZ

BatemanPatrickl · 03-25-10, 07:39 AM

Could be a good spot for Washington here. Will keep an eye on the line.

aggieshawn · 03-25-10, 07:45 AM

so you all are on the huskies. then i take the UW - ML and -4

cadillac pete · 03-25-10, 08:03 AM

I would like to play the Huskies but WV looks too tough to go against. Still up in the air

aman86 · 03-25-10, 08:21 AM

don't really know how someone could go with wvu here, would love to here the argument even tho i'm already locked in, lets get em!

wallyjones2009 · 03-25-10, 08:28 AM

+4 looks good

hhsilver · 03-25-10, 08:37 AM

yes, I like Wash a lot

vitalogist · 03-25-10, 09:11 AM

According to ESPN's Chad Millman, wiseguys are still slightly leaning toward WVU, but mot are calling this one a pass. I'm a diehard UW fan though, I believe they'll at least cover, and I'm playing the moneyline as well. GL to all...

Snowball · 03-25-10, 10:52 AM

i threw Wash ML and +4 in some parlays and a 7-pt teaser but no top-tier wagers.

2daBank · 03-25-10, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by aman86

don't really know how someone could go with wvu here, would love to here the argument even tho i'm already locked in, lets get em!

seriously doubt i play this game but i can see several reasons to back wvu in this game...unlike the other teams wash has played thus far wvu matches up very well with there length and athleticism , wash for the most part are not a great jump shooting team and wvu will pack it in with that zone and force them to be shooters.....unlike the other teams wash has faced so far wvu will not let this become a track meet which favors wash no doubt..ive bet wash every game thus far i just dont see this as being as good a spot for them...like i said probably a pass for me but wouldnt surprise me at all if wvu took it to them tonight....gl either way

Sawsi · 03-25-10, 12:02 PM

I've got Washington taking this one. Take this one to the bank boys especially with Truck Bryant out with the broken foot. Mazula can manage a team with his bum shoulders but he can't make the other team pay. Washington by 4-6 points in this one.

It's a guard game and Washington puts a lot of pressure on the ball and will force a ton of turnovers which then equals transition points which then equals loss for WVU.

LuckyDawg · 03-25-10, 12:13 PM

I love Washington +2.5 1H. W.V. has been starting slow lately and with Washingtons ability to run the floor I believe they have the lead at halftime. GL to all!!

rolltide10 · 03-25-10, 12:18 PM

got a gem at +5.5 hit it right when the news broke on Bryant. Line immediately dropped to +4...BOL

hokieneer · 03-25-10, 12:20 PM

What you need to beat the Mountaineers is a good 3 point shooting team, which can shoot over that defense. That is exactly what the Huskies have and thats why I think the Huskies will win. The Huskies shot 34% from behind the 3 point arc this year. The team also brings 3 very dangerous shooters from 3 points. Isiah Thomas hit 33% this year, Quincy Poindexter shot 36.7% and Elston Turner hit for almost 39%. Scott Suggs hit 37%. Its not so much in the percentages as in the fact that Poindexter and Thomas are going to shoot from behind the arc. Its not like these guys are 3 for 10 on the year, they are hitting in the mid 30's while taking lots of shots from back there.

Washington only scores 20.2% of their total points from behind the arc, good for 321st place in all of division I. They shoot 33.8% from behind the arc, good for 191st place. If they have to make 3s to beat WVU, then I like WVU's chances.

So I think the typical defense that West Virginia employs with great success against some Big East schools simply will not work as the Huskies can shoot from way back, and also the Huskies will force an up tempo style here. The Huskies have faced many teams like this during the year. Oregon State, USC and most recently New Mexico were all teams who routiney held opponents to low scoring outputs and in each case, the Huskies were able to hit from outside and force open the defense.

Mizzou was unable to speed the pace up against WVU. USC beat Wash twice this year, holding UW to 61 and 64 points. UNM is not a good defensive team, and they actually play a slighting faster than average tempo.

hokieneer · 03-25-10, 12:29 PM

I'm sorry, but just one more snippet from the post above, as there were so many things wrong in it:

I think the Huskies are also a much more well balanced team here. Thomas, Poindexter, Byan-Amaning, and Overton are all serious threats that the Mountaineers will have to account for. Sure I am not saying that DaSean Butler is all the Mountaineers have, Darryl Jones and Kevin Ebanks will contribute but this is a team that is dependent on Butler.

It's Kevin Jones and Devin Ebanks. How could anyone read that and trust that analysis when so much of it is wrong, and the author doesn't even know the players names.

PAULYPOKER · 03-25-10, 03:32 PM

This is now a no play for me Goodluck guys

palmyjin · 03-25-10, 03:35 PM

i like this play. i might have to think about it though before i place a bet

MrTwiz · 03-25-10, 04:39 PM

Any news on WV pg? I heard htat he is hurt, ankle inj, but cant find it anywhere

bozeman · 03-25-10, 05:18 PM

Washington wins tonight Bryant is not playing

bozeman · 03-25-10, 05:18 PM

that's it

FloridaCracker · 03-25-10, 05:20 PM

I'm on Washington Too.

pronk · 03-25-10, 05:21 PM

West Virginia starting point guard Darryl "Truck" Bryant will miss the rest of the ncaa tournament after breaking his right foot in practice on Tuesday, school officials confirmed to ESPN.com on Tuesday night.
Bryant, a sophomore from Brooklyn, N.Y., started 31 of the team's 35 games this season, averaging 9.3 points, 3.1 assists and 2.2 rebounds. The No. 2-seeded Mountaineers play No. 11-seeded Washington Huskies in Thursday night's East Regional semifinals in at the Carrier Dome in Syracuse, N.Y.
School officials said Bryant fractured the fifth metatarsal in his right foot during Tuesday's practice.
Bryant will probably be replaced in the starting lineup by junior Joe Mazzulla, whose playing time has increased recently after he missed most of last season with a shoulder injury. Mazzulla is averaging 2.2 points and 1.8 rebounds, but he had 15 assists in the last three games.
Bryant's injury couldn't come at a worse time for West Virginia. The Huskies are led by point guard Isaiah Thomas, who is averaging 17.1 points and 3.1 assists.

vanc · 03-25-10, 05:29 PM

Washington will cover, yes.

I also like under here.

PAULYPOKER · 03-25-10, 05:34 PM

WV wins Wash. covers

uanl · 03-25-10, 05:44 PM

i think a lot of this game depends on the tempo of the game...WV usually likes to be physical and slow the game down while UW likes to run and gun...if the games gets into the 70s or 80s, UW will probly win straight up ..if it stays around the 60s, WV has a better chance to win the game but UW will probly cover .. i think the huskies are the play, i got them at + 4.5

and yes i am a husky fan, but i wouldnt throw my money away if i didnt believe it has a good shot to win/cover

hokieneer · 03-25-10, 08:40 PM

I tried to tell everyone the information presented in the top of this thread was wrong.

UW shot 3-12 from 3. So much for their 3pt shooting being the key.

UW team that I was told would speed up the game and scores a lot of points, put up a total of 56 points.

And on another thread I said WVU winning on the boards would be the key. WVU out rebounded UW 40-25.