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  • Q
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-16-09
    • 662

    #1
    Don't Count WVU Out So Fast Boys..
    I have been reading what you all are saying, about the mountaineers and how they are not going to be able to win. Yes the 1-2 punch with truck and joe was a great combination but don't count them out so fast. Joe has been hurt all year and is finally starting to get back to playing his normal game. Yes truck has started all year but he has not been playing well all season.

    Here are some numbers for you all from the big east tourney until now.
    Wvu. vs. Cincy

    Truck had 2 points while joe had 0, Truck with 5 rebounds Joe 0, Truck 3 Assists Joe 0, Minutes played Truck 20 Joe 10, Steals truck 2 Joe 0.
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    Nd vs. Wvu

    Joe 8 points Truck 0, Both had 2 rebounds, Truck 2 assists Joe 0, Minutes played Joe 23 Truck 17.
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    G-Town vs. Wvu

    Joe 6 points Truck 0, Both with 2 rebounds, Joe 7 assists Truck 0, Minutes played Joe 29 Truck 10. Free throws Joe 6-6.
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    NCAA TOURNEY

    Morgan State Vs WVU

    Joe 5 points Truck 4, Truck 1 rebound Joe 0, Joe 6 assists Joe 2, Both played 22 minutes, Free throws joe 3-3 truck 2-2.
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    Mizzou vs. Wvu

    Joe 3 points Truck 4, Joe 3 rebounds Truck 2,Joe 2 assists Truck 1, Minutes played joe 24 Truck 14, Joe 1-2 from the line.
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    Averages

    Joe averaging 4.4 points a game while Truck is averaging 2.
    Truck with 2.4 rebounds Joe 1.4
    Assists Joe 3 truck 1.8
    MINUTES PER GAME JOE 21.6 TRUCK 17


    So all stats are leading to joe have a better tourney so far so i am not to worried about him running the point. Wvu has a lot of options, They could play 5 forwards with Butler running the point. Casey Mitchell will back up truck. We will still be able to break the press easily. I wouldn't be surprised if Ebanks guards Thomas. Look for a great game. But dont count the mounties out yet...
  • Q
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-16-09
    • 662

    #2
    More motivation for the mounties also. I also did some re- search on Washington yes the are on a HUGE 9 game winning streak. BUTTT out of those 9 games only 3 teams had winning records..
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    • KingKolzig
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-02-10
      • 5550

      #3
      ya im not convinced washignton is the real deal. they could have easliy lost to marquette. but it will be a close game for sure now
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      • Q
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-16-09
        • 662

        #4
        We will see but some of the comments I have been seeing blow my mind.
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        • suckerforparlays
          Restricted User
          • 02-15-10
          • 4536

          #5
          ty for bringing that up I been trying to make a point but everyone just laughs at me.

          People think im stupid I think lol
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          • GiveMeaBJ
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-08-09
            • 8449

            #6
            The bigger problem is going to be on the other end of the floor. Someone needs to guard Thomas and Bryant was the best match up for him by far.
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            • Q
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-16-09
              • 662

              #7
              Originally posted by GiveMeaBJ
              The bigger problem is going to be on the other end of the floor. Someone needs to guard Thomas and Bryant was the best match up for him by far.
              I don't agree with you that's why truck has been getting pulled becase of bad defense. If u want to know who would guard him the best that would be ebanks he held Scotty renyolds to 2 points. That's not very good though.
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              • Q
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-16-09
                • 662

                #8
                Reynolds* ****in iphone
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                • GiveMeaBJ
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-08-09
                  • 8449

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Q
                  I don't agree with you that's why truck has been getting pulled becase of bad defense. If u want to know who would guard him the best that would be ebanks he held Scotty renyolds to 2 points. That's not very good though.
                  Yea but Thomas is a blur. Truck was the best bet to atleast keep up with him. Ebanks would get blown by everytime down.
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                  • PAYTON20
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-02-10
                    • 5217

                    #10
                    Thomas is about to own Mazzula hard
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                    • Q
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-16-09
                      • 662

                      #11
                      you think thomas is better than reynolds??
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                      • rolltide10
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 11-01-09
                        • 270

                        #12
                        Im placing my money on Wash now, The game was a no play but this added value. WVU is still the better team I just believe it will take them a little longer to get rolling. I see WVU pulling it out by two to three now. People that all over WVU being through are square. The better team will win, But you have to say it does add some value for those playing Wash.
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                        • Q
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-16-09
                          • 662

                          #13
                          The thing that i cant wrap my mind around is why would Huggins tell the media on tuesday.. Why not wait until game time tomorrow..Something is going on here..
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                          • hokieneer
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 03-17-10
                            • 102

                            #14
                            Yea but Thomas is a blur. Truck was the best bet to atleast keep up with him. Ebanks would get blown by everytime down.
                            If Bryant was half as good as Mazulla on Defense, he'd be average a lot more than 17 min a game. Huggins can live with bad shooting, but if you combine that with terrible D then you're not going to play. Between Mazulla, Ebanks, and the 1-3-1, WVU has enough to handle Thomas.

                            UW had better be worried about the boards. If they don't rebound well, they are not going to win the game.
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                            • GiveMeaBJ
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-08-09
                              • 8449

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Q
                              you think thomas is better than reynolds??
                              No but I think Thomas is a tougher match up. Two different players. Reynolds is more of a shooter and finding open areas to get in the lane. Thomas will blow right by you. Just because West Virginia stopped one good point guard doesn't mean they stop all of them. Even if they do stop Thomas look out for Pondexter.
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                              • GiveMeaBJ
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-08-09
                                • 8449

                                #16
                                Originally posted by hokieneer
                                If Bryant was half as good as Mazulla on Defense, he'd be average a lot more than 17 min a game. Huggins can live with bad shooting, but if you combine that with terrible D then you're not going to play. Between Mazulla, Ebanks, and the 1-3-1, WVU has enough to handle Thomas.

                                UW had better be worried about the boards. If they don't rebound well, they are not going to win the game.
                                Well he isn't averaging 17 minutes a game so I don't know where you got that. He averaged 24+ minutes this year and played 30 or more minutes 10 times this year.

                                Here is the thing, Thomas is too fast for Mazulla or Ebanks.
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                                • Q
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-16-09
                                  • 662

                                  #17
                                  E averaged that much at the start of the year did you not see the stats i put up.. Now that Joe is healthy he is going to get the majority of the minutes because he is a better defensive player..
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                                  • hokieneer
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 03-17-10
                                    • 102

                                    #18
                                    Well he isn't averaging 17 minutes a game so I don't know where you got that. He averaged 24+ minutes this year and played 30 or more minutes 10 times this year.
                                    Since postseason started, he's only averaging 17 min a game. He's also shooting like 20%. Bryant has been flat out awful in postseason this year, probably the worst player to log minutes for WVU. Combine that awful play with his natural poor defense, and that's why his minutes are down.

                                    If you thought WVU was good Sunday or in the Big East Tournament, then you should like them again today. This injury changes very little about the current make up of the team or how they've been playing the last 2-3 weeks.
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                                    • The General
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 13279

                                      #19
                                      WVU is very capable to get the game Win and they are favored to do so.

                                      Best of luck
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                                      • GiveMeaBJ
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-08-09
                                        • 8449

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by The General
                                        WVU is very capable to get the game Win and they are favored to do so.

                                        Best of luck
                                        What a post!
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                                        • MilfDriller
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 11-23-08
                                          • 10186

                                          #21
                                          Line was edging up and resting around -6 before the news broke.. now it sits at -4.


                                          I really thought WV would do much better against Mizz, but Mizz had chances to win that game. Anyways, WV unders have been rolling lately. If there are lots of points scored, the edge definitely goes to Wash. If this is an under, you can most likely expect a tight game. Add the fact that Huskies are clicking on all cylinders... you should either take the Huskies or no play at all.

                                          Huskies walked into a beautiful draw that can push them all the way to the Elite 8. Sometimes it works out that way. I'll be on Huskies ML. I expect them to go into HT leading.... just like they did in 2006 vs. #1 (or was it #2) Uconn in the reg. semis in DC. Depending on how things look, I'll come back w/ WV at HT ATS.

                                          But even if they aren't leading at half, this should still be a tight game at the end.

                                          This game is a Huskies take or no play.... unless you feel the D is going to completely dwarf Washington.
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                                          • coloradobuff
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-22-09
                                            • 1488

                                            #22
                                            no one counting WVU out..line hardly moved after injury announcement yesterday..still very very good team..kid only averaged 3 assists/gm
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                                            • PAYTON20
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-02-10
                                              • 5217

                                              #23
                                              haha... guys... WVU can't shoot from the outside. UW has some tall and athletic defenders. Holliday can lock up any good offensive player. WVU has no one to match up with Bryan-Amaning... Truck being out is huge no matter what anyone says. Thomas will beat Mazzula to the hoop and also draw attention for dishes to Amaning or Elston Turner for 3 pointers!
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                                              • suckerforparlays
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 02-15-10
                                                • 4536

                                                #24
                                                both teams play better in the second half
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                                                • Shortstop
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 01-02-09
                                                  • 27281

                                                  #25
                                                  This might be the best of the Sweet 16 matchups, should be an outstanding game...
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                                                  • MC PICKS
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-10-10
                                                    • 6644

                                                    #26
                                                    Neers win this by close to double digits.
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                                                    • danrman
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-30-08
                                                      • 2696

                                                      #27
                                                      wash wins outright
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                                                      • hoopster42
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 02-12-08
                                                        • 6099

                                                        #28
                                                        a WVU fan (most likely a homer) is telling us not to count out WVA? ummm, okay. look, they might very well beat wash but unless cornell has the gm of their lives to beat kentucky, the elite 8 is most likely where this season ends for WVA
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                                                        • LT Profits
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-27-06
                                                          • 90963

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by hoopster42
                                                          a WVU fan (most likely a homer) is telling us not to count out WVA? ummm, okay. look, they might very well beat wash but unless cornell has the gm of their lives to beat kentucky, the elite 8 is most likely where this season ends for WVA
                                                          Not true, a team with West Virginia's style has a much better chance of beating Kentucky then either Cornell or Washington. Teams that play at a fast pace probably can't out-Kentucky Kentucky. The way to beat them is to slow them down, and WVA is perfectly equipped for that.
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                                                          • hoopster42
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 02-12-08
                                                            • 6099

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                            Not true, a team with West Virginia's style has a much better chance of beating Kentucky then either Cornell or Washington. Teams that play at a fast pace probably can't out-Kentucky Kentucky. The way to beat them is to slow them down, and WVA is perfectly equipped for that.
                                                            well, i'm not saying wash has a chance against kentucky, because they don't have much of one. i actually think cornell might be more equipped to beat kentucky than WVU w/out The Truck. cornell is not stupid (geniuses actually) and neither is their coach. they're not gona try and run w/kentucky. the only thing WVA has going for them vs. kentucky now that their PG is gone is some length on the inside. how is the back up gona deal w/wall? no way. let's see what happens. i hope WVA can beat wash and then beat kentucky (if they beat cornell) because i have WVA in my final 4. i'm just not very confident right now.
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                                                            • spankadank
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 01-20-10
                                                              • 182

                                                              #31
                                                              WVU will win big tonight. WVU plays better defense and rebounds better. WVU will not miss alot from Truck, Joe will step up. I actually think Mazzula is better than Truck.
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                                                              • EaglesPhan36
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-06-06
                                                                • 71662

                                                                #32
                                                                With Bryant, Huskies had a chance. Two big factors tonight - can WV keep Huskies guards in front of them. Can Huskies rebound enough?
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                                                                • hoopster42
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 02-12-08
                                                                  • 6099

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by spankadank
                                                                  WVU will win big tonight. WVU plays better defense and rebounds better. WVU will not miss alot from Truck, Joe will step up. I actually think Mazzula is better than Truck.
                                                                  'cause you know more than bob huggins, right?

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                                                                  • Powderguy
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-18-09
                                                                    • 6939

                                                                    #34
                                                                    WVU in the title game!! Get it done tonight
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                                                                    • BeatTheJerk
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 08-19-07
                                                                      • 31794

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Q
                                                                      I have been reading what you all are saying, about the mountaineers and how they are not going to be able to win. Yes the 1-2 punch with truck and joe was a great combination but don't count them out so fast. Joe has been hurt all year and is finally starting to get back to playing his normal game. Yes truck has started all year but he has not been playing well all season.

                                                                      Here are some numbers for you all from the big east tourney until now.
                                                                      Wvu. vs. Cincy

                                                                      Truck had 2 points while joe had 0, Truck with 5 rebounds Joe 0, Truck 3 Assists Joe 0, Minutes played Truck 20 Joe 10, Steals truck 2 Joe 0.
                                                                      -------------------

                                                                      Nd vs. Wvu

                                                                      Joe 8 points Truck 0, Both had 2 rebounds, Truck 2 assists Joe 0, Minutes played Joe 23 Truck 17.
                                                                      ------------------

                                                                      G-Town vs. Wvu

                                                                      Joe 6 points Truck 0, Both with 2 rebounds, Joe 7 assists Truck 0, Minutes played Joe 29 Truck 10. Free throws Joe 6-6.
                                                                      ---------------------

                                                                      NCAA TOURNEY

                                                                      Morgan State Vs WVU

                                                                      Joe 5 points Truck 4, Truck 1 rebound Joe 0, Joe 6 assists Joe 2, Both played 22 minutes, Free throws joe 3-3 truck 2-2.
                                                                      -----------------

                                                                      Mizzou vs. Wvu

                                                                      Joe 3 points Truck 4, Joe 3 rebounds Truck 2,Joe 2 assists Truck 1, Minutes played joe 24 Truck 14, Joe 1-2 from the line.
                                                                      ------------------
                                                                      Averages

                                                                      Joe averaging 4.4 points a game while Truck is averaging 2.
                                                                      Truck with 2.4 rebounds Joe 1.4
                                                                      Assists Joe 3 truck 1.8
                                                                      MINUTES PER GAME JOE 21.6 TRUCK 17


                                                                      So all stats are leading to joe have a better tourney so far so i am not to worried about him running the point. Wvu has a lot of options, They could play 5 forwards with Butler running the point. Casey Mitchell will back up truck. We will still be able to break the press easily. I wouldn't be surprised if Ebanks guards Thomas. Look for a great game. But dont count the mounties out yet...
                                                                      Your betting with your heart. "Fanatic Wager"
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