Just me or is the seeding more off than ever this year?!

pavyracer · 03-18-10, 03:27 PM

If the seeding was perfect threads like this wouldn't exist. It's done on purpose to generate interest on TV.

whatsgood5 · 03-18-10, 03:30 PM

Agreed, lots of teams got screwed over this year.

seaborneq · 03-18-10, 03:35 PM

No, they committee really tries to get the seeding correct. Nova should not have been a 2 based on late season swoon, ND should not have been a 6 based on a late season run. Pac 10 should have been left out altogether, at most 1 team. Butler should have been higher, UTEP should have been higher, Duke should have been a 2, Maryland a 6, it goes on and on. But they do try to get it right. In the future, it would help if there were no games on Selection Sunday. Too many contigencies. Mississippi St almost had to be seeded, Houston almost was unavailable. Too much for the committee on a day in which games are played for championships.

jjgold · 03-18-10, 03:40 PM

No

It actually does not matter, almost every team in tourney is equal, no dominate teams or players.

stealthyburrito · 03-18-10, 03:44 PM

who cares, they've make for some great games so far, hope it continues!

seaborneq · 03-18-10, 10:23 PM

Still getting upsets tonight.

daneblazer · 03-18-10, 10:47 PM

They did a fair job with the 1-5 seeds. Some of their 6-14th seeds could use some work but at that point does it matter that much?

HoulihansTX · 03-18-10, 10:51 PM

You can tell that the seedings are incorrect, by the lines the oddsmakers made.

Never should a game between a 4 & 13 Seed be a 3 point spread. i.e. Murray St. vs. Vandy.

Abject failure on the part of the committee.

skidaddy28 · 03-18-10, 10:58 PM

sucks for us but made for some good ball

hoopster42 · 03-18-10, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

You can tell that the seedings are incorrect, by the lines the oddsmakers made.

Never should a game between a 4 & 13 Seed be a 3 point spread. i.e. Murray St. vs. Vandy.

Abject failure on the part of the committee.

the committee doesnt give a flying fukk about point spreads!

where would you have put murray state? at a 5 or 6 seed?

are you FUKKING nuts?

no matter the seeds, upsets will ALWAYS happen because this is a one and done format w/so much pressure on the favorites. they are throwing a round ball in a hoop from various distances. it's designed to be close. those of us who have played competitive basketball know this. the gm of basketball is designed to be close.

if it was a best of 7 series each round, #1 seeds would make the final four 75-80% of the time and very few lower seeds would ever win except for the 9's over 8's and 10s over 7s

some of you have NO CLUE what you're talking about

BernardMadoff · 03-18-10, 11:02 PM

The better conferences are always gonna get the higher seeds, there is just more parity in college basketball these days.

HoulihansTX · 03-18-10, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by hoopster42

the committee doesnt give a flying fukk about point spreads!
where would you have put murray state? at a 5 or 6 seed?
are you FUKKING nuts?
no matter the seeds, upsets will ALWAYS happen

Didnt say they care about point spreads, but point spread indicate the level of separation between the teams.

Murray St. won 30 games, and their Season/ Tourny championship. 5 or 6 seed wouldnt be a stretch.

I am a little nuts. I lay a lot of money on games, as if I know the outcome from prior experience.

Still waiting for a 16 seed to beat 1 seed.

HoulihansTX · 03-18-10, 11:14 PM

Also my argument does not pertain to the # of upsets, or the chance for an upset.

I am saying the point spreads are not correlated to the level of seeding that the games represent.

Shouldnt a 13 seed not be expected to be competitive with a 4 seed.

flyingillini · 03-18-10, 11:15 PM

I would imagine that tomorrow the heavy favorites cover. Bet accordingly guey.

daneblazer · 03-18-10, 11:17 PM

Round 1: Bet Dogs
Round 2: Call off the dogs
Round 3: Bet the dogs again

eidolon · 03-18-10, 11:17 PM

just you seeing upsets

seaborneq · 03-18-10, 11:30 PM

The best teams from the small conferences are making the tournament. Siena, Murray State, Butler, ODU, Siena, N Iowa, SHSU, Wofford, Lehigh, Oakland, and N Texas ALL won their conference regular season. Wouldn't they be the best representation of their conference? All of these teams have proven to be good over the long haul. Seeding them is the problem against the 5th, 6th, and 7th teams from the Power conferences.

hoopster42 · 03-19-10, 01:39 AM

basketball is designed to be close, unlike football where the size and speed makes all the difference........ in basketball, any 5 guys who play together, find the open guy, hit the shots, hit their FTs, can beat another group of 5 of more athletic, taller, better overall players as individuals..........also, in basketball, if 1 guy, just 1 guy on the underdog team gets hot, he can take over the gm and the favorite cannot do anything about it

hoopster42 · 03-19-10, 01:40 AM

the same tournament committee that seeded the tourney almost perfectly the last 3 seasons all of a sudden forgot how to seed

they use the same fukking criteria every yr!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEGREAT30 · 03-19-10, 01:46 AM

not really seeding but the teams in tourny are off, Big East is very overrated and has been for 2 years now

iceminers26 · 03-19-10, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by THEGREAT30

not really seeding but the teams in tourny are off, Big East is very overrated and has been for 2 years now

you really don't care that much for the Big East eh, this is like the 20th post I have seen you bashing them

hoopster42 · 03-19-10, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by THEGREAT30

not really seeding but the teams in tourny are off, Big East is very overrated and has been for 2 years now

actually, the big east was incredible last season. villanova and uconn make the final 4. pitt and uconn battle it out in the elite 8. cuse makes the sweet 16 then runs into oklahoma who was dominant with blake griffin. uconn lost to mich st in a barnburner, and villanova lost to unc who was one of the best teams in the past 10-15 yrs

in 2009 the big east was TERRIFIC sir

this yr? not so much, and you AND i both knew it and posted it a long time ago

Vesuvius · 03-19-10, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

You can tell that the seedings are incorrect, by the lines the oddsmakers made.

Never should a game between a 4 & 13 Seed be a 3 point spread. i.e. Murray St. vs. Vandy.

Abject failure on the part of the committee.

You are right on here.

THEGREAT30 · 03-19-10, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by hoopster42

actually, the big east was incredible last season. villanova and uconn make the final 4. pitt and uconn battle it out in the elite 8. cuse makes the sweet 16 then runs into oklahoma who was dominant with blake griffin. uconn lost to mich st in a barnburner, and villanova lost to unc who was one of the best teams in the past 10-15 yrs

in 2009 the big east was TERRIFIC sir

this yr? not so much, and you AND i both knew it and posted it a long time ago

Truth is the truth they were pretty good last year, but not this year and SEC is not as bad as people would have u think, I still think the 2nd or 3rd best at worse SEC team did not even make tourny

hoopster42 · 03-19-10, 09:49 PM

11 seed Wash -1.5 over 3 seed New Mex...........were they miss-seeded? if so where would you put them?
2 seed K-State -5.5 over 10 seed Mizzu...........pts not high enough? miss-seeded?
6 seed Xavier Pick em vs 3 seed Pitt.........WTF, how can that be? (i'm acting rhetorical here)

the truth is: COLLEGE BASKETBALL IS ALWAYS CLOSE IN THE TOURNEY, IF YOU ARE FAVORED BY 5 OR MORE YOU ARE CLEARLY CONSIDERED THE BETTER TEAM