SIENA over Purdue

**SamsNCharge99** · 03-14-10, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Ralphie1412

which is exactly the extent of your knowledge. The definition of a square. They beat Ohio St. in 2 OT last year, who gives a ****. What does that have to do with this year.....how did that Butler game go? How did that embarrassment to the game of basketball go at Niagara?

who cares, they lost to Niagara and Butler

teams can lose...Niagara was a good team this year in conference

**Sunde91** · 03-14-10, 07:00 PM

The "public" are betters. Everyone knows Robbie Hummel is out for the season.

Yes, and it's the same public who goes chalk with their brackets except for games like this where they swallow up one tidbit of well known info and decide the game off of it.

**kboiler** · 03-14-10, 07:46 PM

Siena is the type of team that Purdue plays well. purdue's weakness is powerful bigs that we can't control...not going to happen with Siena. Kramer and lewJack will shut down their guards. purdue by 10.

Purdue can beat TAMU also...they also have no bigs. Their best guard gets shut down by Kramer.

book it.

**LT Profits** · 03-14-10, 08:02 PM

Purdue went from -5 to -3.5 in the first four minutes line was up

**Ralphie1412** · 03-14-10, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by SamsNCharge99

who cares, they lost to Niagara and Butler teams can lose...Niagara was a good team this year in conference

Niagara is a subpar team in a subpar conference. Have you ever once said hey I think Siena is going to lose...no you havent. You are like 14 year old girl. And you would think you would have gotten better over the last couple years but you are almost worse. You really need to get some pussy sam and get off the internet.

**Snowball** · 03-14-10, 09:01 PM

i don't think this matchup favors Siena.
Purdue has too much beef.
Anything under -5 is a gift, take Purdue.

**tblues2005** · 03-14-10, 10:34 PM

I think Siena could win this straight up.

**BGS 9.5** · 03-14-10, 10:43 PM

Absolutely not, you had your fun last year with the Big 10, even without Hummell you guys are doomed....

**beanbag** · 03-14-10, 10:44 PM

Sienna wins first round!!

**ZBOIZ** · 03-14-10, 10:47 PM

I like Purdue -3.5..

Sienna is soft as cotton

**topgame85** · 03-14-10, 10:51 PM

Dunno about this Sammy, Purdue is going to be riled up after that disgraceful loss and the saints are nowhere near as good as last year they have a shot but I can't see them pulling it out... won't be a blow out or anything though GL

**MartinBlank** · 03-14-10, 10:52 PM

Ask Ohio State how "soft" Siena is.

Ask Louisville.

Siena beat Ohio State last year in the opening round, and they had Louisville in trouble in the second round.

Siena has 3 seniors and a junior from last year's team still starting.

I swear, some of you start watching college hoops in March and then just throw your cash away.

**Emily_Haines** · 03-14-10, 10:54 PM

trendy pick

**TPowell** · 03-14-10, 10:56 PM

Siena much worse than last year from what I've saw. I like Ubiles but they lost a lot from last year IMO

**FrozenMAN** · 03-14-10, 11:01 PM

I PRAY PURDUE ROLLS THESE ****S FROM SIENA SOOOOO BAD

wana see a steamrolling by the big boys on these tools from fake conferences which put up 28 wins cause they play a bunch of shitholes that are full of 3rd and 4th level HS kids..

COME ON PURDUE!!!!!!!!!!!

**texashighroller** · 03-14-10, 11:10 PM

Taking purdue

**ZetaPsi808** · 03-14-10, 11:12 PM

i have initial lean to siena plus the points here. i will fade purdue as they suck lately

**pat venditto** · 03-14-10, 11:16 PM

Siena won't win sammy. They had a good run last season. Won't happen again.

**mtneer1212** · 03-14-10, 11:23 PM

I cant bet Siena now...... EVERYONE is on them.

**MartinBlank** · 03-14-10, 11:58 PM

Hey guys...

Newsflash.

Siena beat Vanderbilt as a 13th seed 2 years ago.

Siena beat Ohio State last year.

Siena has a great coach.

And for those of you afraid of the public being on them......the public bet them up the last 2 years as well.

Siena played in the MEAC---and they can play basketball in that conference.

Take a closer look at the MEAC.

Lowly Loyola (MD) beat Indiana the same week Indiana knocked off Minnesota.

Rider beat Mississippi State at Mississippi State.

For a lowly conference, their teams have done well against the big boys.

**rm18** · 03-15-10, 12:13 AM

Siena only lost one player, but they suck, same thing is true with Niagara, who returned 9 of top 10 guys and regressed. Kind of like Texas you had to think they were better coming into the year but they have proven over 30+ games that they suck.

**tkim8404** · 03-15-10, 12:20 AM

Siena might be the way to go

**scarp** · 03-15-10, 12:24 AM

no way sienna will be favored

**rochestertitans** · 03-15-10, 08:59 AM

purdue

**kboiler** · 03-15-10, 09:24 AM

The people calling for Siena because of last year don't know College Basketball. You can't be serious. Because the talking heads say Siena could win this, they all jump on board.

Yes, Rob Hummel is out, but we still have two all big ten caliber players and a third team all american in E'Twaun Moore. Siena is guard oriented...just what we play well against. See Penn State, Illinois, MSU, etc....

**james4512** · 03-15-10, 10:45 AM

siena is only good at home, they have really athletic guys which makes them do well in conference but out of conference there guys get out "skilled" if you will since none of them can hit a jumpshot

**Jerrod** · 03-15-10, 10:49 AM

Siena is good team with ubiles as a end of game scorer..what you need to get it done...see em stealing first game here

**Vreston** · 03-15-10, 07:13 PM

Purdue lost big time the other day. I think by 27 points to Minnesota.
I think they're all rested up. They're ready for the tournament where they'll have to show up.
Purdue advances IMO.

**Ralphie1412** · 03-15-10, 07:51 PM

Purdue plays defense.....period. They are going to be out to prove something after that debacle in Indianapolis the other day. I think Purdue comes out and punches them in the mouth. Johnson, Moore, Jackson, Kramer, Grant....these kids can ball.

**dollarbill** · 03-15-10, 07:53 PM

Butler is in Tourney

and did smack Siena 70-53.

Purdue should advance to play and lose to Utah St from the FT line.

**Brp27345** · 03-15-10, 09:44 PM

Not calling myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination... but I am from the Albany area and have watched this team all year... including every game of the MAAC tournament...

It's funny listening to all of you talking about Siena against Niagara and Butler and Fairfield in the championship game... which is fair since they were the only 3 games put on TV all year...

The Niagara loss was a terrible one plain and simple... but it was on the road at Niagara... and they are and have been over the past couple years Siena's biggest rival in the MAAC although they had an off year this season... I don't care how bad a conference is... but going 17-1 in conference (20-1) if u include the tournament is DAMN impressive... and even in a down year for the MAAC... they are one of the stronger mid-major conferences in my opinion...

The Butler game was terrible as well... but for different reasons... Siena did what I expect them to do in the first half and then plain and simple could not shoot second half... they fell apart... and it was very unlike them...

The Fairfield game in the championship is the most concerning to me however... EVERY game late in the year including the tournament they DID NOT get up early for the games... and to net get up with getting into the tourney on the line makes no sense to me at all...

All 3 tourney games they were down at the half by more than 4 to inferior teams... and then went on to win... and to cover 2nd half lines of 10 plus points in all 3 games...

Will continue in next post...

**Brp27345** · 03-15-10, 09:53 PM

What worries me about their play of late is that if they decide to come out and play the first half like they have lately they WILL NOT be able to get out of even the first round in the tourney...

To say that they have beaten no one all year is not a fair statement to make if that is your knock on them though... NO ONE will come play us on our home court... and they shouldn't because we have the nations 2nd longest winning streak... but still... have any other school in the country forced to play top 25 or even top 50 teams ALL on the road and see what there record ends up being... just making a point there real quick...

So to break down their matchup in the first round with Purdue... All week Siena was supposed to be a 12 seed... that was fair... then ust before the announcement they were supposed to be an 11 and I thought ok... respect I guess... then the brackets come out and they are a 13... absolutely stupid... but then the tourney committee decides to give us prob the easiest matchup of any of the 12 or 13 seeds for that matter in the first round... All of this makes me think the tourney wants Siena to be the Cinderella... or does Vegas want Joe Public to take a death plunge on a matchup where the public should be all over Siena on name recognition... and completely off of Purdue without Hummel after watching them in the Big Ten Semifinals and there IMPRESSIVE performance against Minny... I guess I just don't know...

Continued...

**Brp27345** · 03-15-10, 10:02 PM

Everyone knows Siena's name from the last 2 years... and I still think they have the heart... I'm just not sure if they have the same talent and I'm not sure why... we lost Hasbrouck... a big loss... but replaced him with Jackson... and didn't take too much of a hit... plus we bring back 4 of the starting 5 from a team that took the #1 overall seed in the entire tourney down to the wire in Louisville last year... we were up 4 with 2 minutes left... remember that... One thing I believe we have been left without this year is any kind of a bench... after losing Fisher and Hasbrouck... and moving Jackson a bench player into our starting lineup...

After our starting 5 which is VERY talented we quickly drop down to Kyle Downey, Owen Wignot, and O.D. Anosike... Downey and Wignot are the prototypical white guys who shoot 3's and Anosike is a freshman... he is talented for the MAAC... but he is young and not seasoned at all in his performance... due to out week bench I think we are going to have a problem with Purdue...

Siena does not foul at all... In fact I believe we are top 5 in the entire NCAA in fewest fouls committed... when watching the Saints that has A LOT to do with us being very smart... but also a lot to do with the fact that Rossiter... our very talented Center DOES NOT foul... or in most cases even attempt to block shots... Purdue has no Hummel... but they still have JaJuan Johnson... and that WILL be the biggest factor in the game... If Rossiter decides to not foul or play tough D Johnson could go for 25 plus... and if he fouls him we could end up going to our bench too early... and when we have to go to our bench we are not that solid of a team... Our starting 5 plays the ENTIRE 2nd half in most games... that tells u all u need to know...

**Brp27345** · 03-15-10, 10:14 PM

Rossiter looks like a goofball but is a double double machine and had one against Louisvilles big men last year in the 2nd round... better competition does not effect his offensive production too much...

Ronald Moore is an ASSIST MACHINE... he is most of the time too talented a passer for some of the other Saints... he will be one of the 3 main keys to this game... he shoots well at all THEY WIN...

Ubiles is a pro prospect... long and athletic... and a guy that can take over games if he so chooses to...

Franklin was the MAAC player of the year... he is undersized but causes matchup problems with people guarding him as he is very creative around the rim and can dribble and finish with the best of them in the NCAA...

Jackson is a pure outside shooter... if he heats up his range is the gym... he is also very important to their success...

So when it comes down to it I know about as much as any of you about who will win this matchup... but as I Siena fan I can tell u 3 absolute truths about this game...

Ronald Moore scores 10 plus points Siena WILL WIN...

Clarence Jackson hits 4+ 3 Pointers Siena WILL WIN...

JaJuan Johnson scores 25 plus the Saints WILL NOT be able to recover...

My prediction for the game is that Siena pulls out an "upset" over Purdue... if you can even call it that...

Recommendations for the game...

If your betting Purdue bet them first half and not for the game...

The way Siena plays if ur going to win on Purdue your best bet will be a first half bet no question...

Purdue -2 1st half should be the play... if you are on Purdue that is...

1st half score Purdue 33 Siena 27

Then take Siena whatever the line is 2nd half as they WILL cover the line obviously if I think they win...

2nd half line somewhere around Siena +1 or a Pick 'Em... even if they don't win they will cover... and ur line will be better than the opening line on the game... basically will be getting Siena +7 instead of 2.5 or 3 where it will be by game time...

Final Score Siena 64 Purdue 60...

BOL to everyone if you are betting the game... just a little insight on my Saints this year... Bet Purdue 1st Half Siena 2nd Half... and take down both bets... guarantee at the worst u will break even...

**Brp27345** · 03-15-10, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by kboiler

The people calling for Siena because of last year don't know College Basketball. You can't be serious. Because the talking heads say Siena could win this, they all jump on board. Yes, Rob Hummel is out, but we still have two all big ten caliber players and a third team all american in E'Twaun Moore. Siena is guard oriented...just what we play well against. See Penn State, Illinois, MSU, etc....

Guard oriented I guess maybe... player of the year inside man... 4 guys score 13 plus... and 2 of em are our big men... including our leading scorer... do some research... but we are very balanced... should be a good game... but on a neutral court I say we beat all 3 of those teams u just listed... and let's be honest Penn St. is NOWHERE near our level... thats just cruel...